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Bicycle Generator & Health
« on: April 25, 2004, 12:37:08 PM »
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Several Japanese and Korean companies have strange morning ritual for all employees: light sport/aerobic.

What happen if the company provide bicycle/treadmill connected to electric generator for charging batteries and the batteries are used for PDA/Laptop?

Each employee should spend at least 30 minutes each day on the static bike / treadmill (single or multiple sessions).

Will this effort save energy/cost and promote a good health for employees?

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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 02:46:07 PM »
Doesn't seem like a big deal, as long as it's voluntary/in the job description.  The better question is how they integrate it into the company (paid time?), and whether they benefit or lose by scaring off the fat employees.  "Bob, your TPS reports are great, but you're just not keeping up with the group on the bikes... I'm afraid we're going to have to let you go?"

You aren't going to save a lot on electricity, because it's just not physically possible; ever pedal one of those demonstrator bikes at a science center?  It's not easy to extract even 60W from a bike, and energy costs pennies by the 1,000W/h.  More importantly... the safest/most comfortable workout is had with magnetic resistance (the bike acts as a generator, but the generator sinks to a dummy load, and the magnetic drag is adjusted to vary the resistance to the user, not to try to keep a constant current to a laptop)... If the particular device they're considering provides an equivalent level of comfort, and just extracts whatever energy would otherwise be lost as 'waste' from the activity, then sure, make it a voluntary convenience/incentive to plug the laptop in and be that little bit eco-friendly, but otherwise, the company is losing the money they would've saved on obesity claims treating sprains and heart attacks. ;)

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I think the biggest problem would be dumb managers who don't realize how inconsequential the electricity is compared to the overall well-being of their employees.  Next up is the fact that I don't see it integrating into American work weeks, especially in the tech sector, where projects are expected to hit that 'crunch time' with all hands on deck except as necessary for sleep and essential biological processes.

The bike tech is a good novelty, and a little bit useful; the sociological question of mandating exercise as part of a 'desk job' is a tougher nut to crack.  (Before you add the manager hounding you to top up your cellphone on the bike so you can save the company $0.0001...)
 

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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2004, 06:34:15 PM »
exercise is good. esp at work when one's brain could always use an infusion of oxygenated blood!
just a bit of common sense is needed and all should be fine.
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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2004, 06:39:18 PM »
Japanese companies are famous (infamous?) for the care they take of their workforce. It isn't humanitarian: a happy workforce is a more efficient and productive workforce. It works, because Japanese companies easily outpace American and European companies for efficiency.

Thing is, I consider such things to be intrusive, so I would never work for a company that made me do anything like that. Not smoking, ok, physically being forced to wash hands before leaving the restroom, ok, but being forced to exercise, no. I'll do my own exercise, thanks.
 

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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2004, 09:36:58 PM »
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but being forced to exercise, no. I'll do my own exercise, thanks.
that's why a gym at the office where you go WHEN you want to is the best solution.

anyway, my impression is that in Japan it's a social thing to exercise with a group so doing that at work isn't weird for them. but in western culture it wouldn't be so easy to get people to exercise together.
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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2004, 09:58:01 PM »
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cecilia wrote:
exercise is good. esp at work when one's brain could always use an infusion of oxygenated blood!
just a bit of common sense is needed and all should be fine.
Inside a skyscraper, with all it's re-breathed air... I think these muscles need more air than they get.
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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2004, 01:52:50 AM »
Well, I don't know about you people, but if I exercise too much, I'm too tired to work. If I exercise but not tire myself out, I get restless and I find it hard to focus my eyes and concentrate anyway.

I remember all the bull I got told in physical education class at school when I complained about having to go to phys ed before an exam. "It'll make your brain work better!" Yeah right. I didn't want to be hot, itchy, sweaty, giddy, tired and with a bumping migraine at an exam. So I dodged phys ed and passed the exam. Yay for independence!
 

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Re: Bicycle Generator & Health
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 12:36:05 PM »
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KennyR wrote:
I remember all the bull I got told in physical education class at school when I complained about having to go to phys ed before an exam. "It'll make your brain work better!" Yeah right. I didn't want to be hot, itchy, sweaty, giddy, tired and with a bumping migraine at an exam. So I dodged phys ed and passed the exam. Yay for independence!
I know.. I know. (mens sana in corpore sano, my @ss, not this way)

Though I like to go by bicycle to the university, rather than by bus.
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