So you see incompatibilities, yet fail to put the work into making clear-cut bug reports with small snippets of example code that invariably lead to crashes?
Yes, I do not work for "the team", correctly observed. It is my understanding, as your answer also suggests, that only clear-cut bug reports containing code snippets is what matters. Meaning that if the program failing is proprietary, one would go through disassembling the binaries to find snippets, or what?
Why do you then expect somebody else to hunt ghosts?
Nope, I don't expect much at all - that is rather the point.
99% of the alleged incompatibilities are just bad demo or game coding or long standing bugs and software mismatches that now get attributed to the Vampire. There surely are bugs in the core. Hardly anything man made is perfect. Go read the Silicon errata for the various 68k processors out there.
Exactly, but we are pretty much stuck with long standing bugs and software mismatches, as well as legal problems and what else.
Even a reproducible crash in a specific place of a program like a branch into no-man's land isn't enough to find a CPU bug because the real problem could have happened millions of instructions before. The Team you like to put into derisive quotation marks has been working in their spare time and provided hundreds of test cases and has found dozens of bugs in the CPU. And we paid for our Vampires just as you did. But you rather take a comfortable position as a big-talking paying customer demanding bug fixes and features. You are what we called a leech back in the Amiga coding days.
What I "demand" is:
* a lot more accurate marketing - just look at this...
http://www.apollo-core.com/index.htm?page=featuresSo we know the FPU is, at best, dysfunctional - what about the rest? Is this page at all trustworthy if one wants to know what is current state? Or does it require wading through forums such as eab and a1k, filtering propaganda and rumours from reality?
* a lot more accurate marketing - "buy it for what it is" we are told, but it can be damn hard to know what it actually is at any given time, since all information and marketing coming from "you guys" (what to call it - it is not a company, and we are told Vampire and Apollo Core are two very different things) is about what it potentially can be (typically in next core releases).
* a lot more accurate marketing - all the people surrounding the project, who do not have the hardware, who have not used it, yet are mighty opinionated about how truly breathtakingly awesome it is, and are allowed to spread this .. truthiness pretty much undisturbed.
* a lot more accurate marketing - are buyers who buy from AmigaKit and other retailers made aware that they are participating in some sort of beta program? How long can one expect the current V500v2+ and V600v2 cards to be supported by Apollo Core?
* modesty and politeness in general. Guess I can now add "leech" to the rather long list of terms used by "you guys" on me.
I was told that only if I could see and use the Vampire myself, I would be convinced.
I was told that I should shut up since I did not even have a Vampire myself.
It was only logical that I should buy Vampire, right? So I did, both of them.
Am I convinced? Not really. Should I still shut up? Apparently. :laughing:
