Public Release of MorphOS 2.5 & Introduction of eMac Support

[Karlos]

It's not a reaction from slashdot that surprises me.

Let's be realistic here. Other than appeal to our particular peculiarities and run our ageing software catalogue, is there anything practical that AmigaOS and it's various offshoots do  that linux can't ?

[kolla]

Huh?

Clearly you do not know what Slashdotted means.

[kolla]

Other than appeal to our particular peculiarities and run our ageing software catalogue, is there anything practical that AmigaOS and it's various offshoots do  that linux can't ?

Nope.
And with the user interface changes done in MorphOS and OS4 - even less so.

[XDelusion]

Actually you will not have to compile a program, and you will not have to worry about figuring out where to put those library files. Unlike Linux, Amiga OS and it's clones are very user friendly as well as easy to use. Linux can't do that!

[haywirepc]

I apologise for any previous comments about MorphOS. I think I was kind of wrongly critical of the powerpc dependance. I went and looked at a friends emac and mac mini. When I thought about it, its actually quite ingenious porting morph to that hardware, because it really is nice hardware, and its readily available, (and cheap!)
 
I would never buy a mac before, because I'm a linux guy. I felt kinda like why should I get raped for an outrageous price just to use a suped up prettied up bsd clone that is closed source? Still I remember seeing macs and really liking the style of them, especially the white keyboard and mouse and how it just looks inviting to use.
 
When I examine the hardware without osx, they are actually quite nice computers. Then I think, hey I bet I can dual boot osx and morph, so for a few hundred bucks thats not a bad computer to have around to play with.

God help me if I decide I really like osx though.
 
As far as linux...
Linux is very easy to use once you kind of figure out where everything goes. I only compile programs I can't find packages for, which is very rare.
 
I have had amigas back in the day, then recently got a 500 then a 1200... Then I made a dedicated amiga emulation pc running amikit... Then I had an aros box... A morphos box is probably in my future. I'm thinking emac because its an all in one and I don't have to worry about monitor and so on... Anyone have a compattible emac who wants to trade for an amiga 500? 2.0 roms, and some other upgrades? I'll throw in some assorted amiga stuff as well...
 
 
Steven

[kolla]

Actually you will not have to compile a program, and you will not have to worry about figuring out where to put those library files. Unlike Linux, Amiga OS and it's clones are very user friendly as well as easy to use. Linux can't do that!

On linux I put them in /usr/local/lib, on MorphOS I can put them in sys:libs or sys:classes, except for those that are updates against those that come with morphos, then I have to put them in mossys:libs or mossys:classes, or put them in sys:libs or sys:classes, but rename those in respective mossys:libs and mossys:classes so that they wont be loaded. And these just some of the locations where libs might go.

[Matt_H]

It's not a reaction from slashdot that surprises me.

Let's be realistic here. Other than appeal to our particular peculiarities and run our ageing software catalogue, is there anything practical that AmigaOS and it's various offshoots do  that linux can't ?

Screens!

More seriously, why is there still hardware and software development for the C64? It's absurdly impractical, but it's really nifty. I guess I expected more of that sentiment from the Slashdot crowd.

OSX crawls on my Mini, Ubuntu crawls on my Pegasos, but MorphOS flies on both - especially on a program-to-program basis (i.e., MPlayer). Surely a system like that is worth taking a look at?

[buzz]

Actually you will not have to compile a program, and you will not have to worry about figuring out where to put those library files. Unlike Linux, Amiga OS and it's clones are very user friendly as well as easy to use. Linux can't do that!

You don't have to compile a program to use linux (unless you want to). Most linux distributions come with a large selection of packages which can be installed with a few clicks. you dont generally need to worry about manually copying library files to certain locations, and in the case of compiling stuff from source, most programs will have a "make install" command.

[buzz]

More seriously, why is there still hardware and software development for the C64? It's absurdly impractical, but it's really nifty. I guess I expected more of that sentiment from the Slashdot crowd.

OSX crawls on my Mini, Ubuntu crawls on my Pegasos, but MorphOS flies on both - especially on a program-to-program basis (i.e., MPlayer). Surely a system like that is worth taking a look at?

for fun. but c64 users have a slightly different attitude towards their c64 than Amiga users seem to have towards their os4/morphos machines.

Im happy that you have found morphos to be useful. If it wasn't >100 euros more people might even use it on their old machines.

[Pyromania]

This news item has been added to the Aladdin 4D Blog to help spread the word.

http://aladdin4d.blogspot.com/2010/06/morphos-25-now-available-and-supports.html

[LoadWB]

You don't have to compile a program to use linux (unless you want to). Most linux distributions come with a large selection of packages which can be installed with a few clicks. you dont generally need to worry about manually copying library files to certain locations, and in the case of compiling stuff from source, most programs will have a "make install" command.

./configure && make && make install

Unless you are like me and running Solaris, in which case a lot of programs are a little more intricate than this.  Thank $_DEITY for SunFreeware!

[zErec]

@thread

Hi everyone, just want to let you know that I received an eMail from discreetFX.

I won a MorphOS 2.5 License-Key for my MacMini.

Big Thanks to discreetFX for this nice price and the cool X-Mas Giveaway contest last year!!!


greetings
zErec

[recidivist]

OOOOH!
Nice prize.

Got to either  get the MacMini set up with MorphOS (thinking of replacing the MacOS hard-drive with a 8gb flashcard, OR  register one of my efikas;can't afford two keyfiles.

[zylesea]

So assuming I was doing modeling (which I'm not), I'd be able to render images within a few seconds/minutes instead of hours?

I have put a few benchmark measurements to http://via.i-networx.de/bench_en.html . Stuff like Maxxon Cinema works nicely fast. But today it is probably the smarter approach to use the excellent port of Blender for MorphOS which is native and utilizes the GPU.

[zylesea]

On linux I put them in /usr/local/lib, on MorphOS I can put them in sys:libs or sys:classes, except for those that are updates against those that come with morphos, then I have to put them in mossys:libs or mossys:classes, or put them in sys:libs or sys:classes, but rename those in respective mossys:libs and mossys:classes so that they wont be loaded. And these just some of the locations where libs might go.

Things get easier if you follow that simple and easy fact to not mess around with files in sys:morphos/.
Sure an old Amigan feels like he knows the system and isn't afraid to tinker around, but there is a good reason for that rule.

[EDanaII]

Or common sense?

Yea, it was this kind of "Common Sense" that got us stuck in a largely Windows world.

Thinking inside a box never gets anyone anywhere.