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Does AROS have an integrated UAE type emulation layer like MorphOS or Amithlon?


Just google "o1i" :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 01:10:54 PM »
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Oh rock on!

Cheers Matt :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 08:44:32 AM »
@stefcep2

Do you ignore all of Bernd's AfA news posts? Where he compiles parts of AROS to replace parts of AmigaOS on 68k hardware?

The AROS developers take great pains to ensure that when compiled for the 68k CPU AROS is binary compatible with AmigaOS... Try can only do this because AROS is an OS that reimplements all of AmigaOS's features and structures. This is exactly the same as MOS and AOS4, except they (AFAIK) only compile for the PPC, AROS an compile on multiple architectures.

@Piru AROS's UAE integration features a Unity mode (that is kind of the point), bit the idea is that we can get it much tighter as AROS and AmigaOS are so similar and we can modify both UAE and AROS to work together... End result, 68k apps running seamlessly in a x86/PPC AROS environment :)
Please spend more time on the AROS Dev list, there are people working on a complete Amiga port of AROS, I'm sure you could offer advice ;)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 09:04:36 AM »
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Why there are no screenshots of it? All I've seen is the whole emulation running in a window, just like regular UAE.


Sorry I'm busy enough already, which reminds me I should finish a report today...
If you follow O1i's blog he posts nothing but screenshots of his work on this... :)

I know you that's why I suggested you perhaps give advice rather than get stuck in ;)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 10:58:10 AM »
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Oh and my new hero developing from scratch an Aros version of 68k emulation layer like in OS4 and MorphOS. Some way off but working already with the 68k clock and showing tons of promise.

http://emumiga.com/


Well this is a turn up for the books! Looks very exciting, for those who didn't click the link, this is the same 68k type of emulation that MOS and AOS4 use :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 12:11:01 PM »
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Yeah this looks very promising. There's one difference to MorphOS at least: With MorphOS there's no need for virtual address space and mapping to the OS structures and calls. MorphOS is compatible enough so that only 68k emulation is needed.

This is very interesting and important project. I'd even consider this more important than Janus UAE (since there's no need to (C) Kickstart ROM or Workbench files, and the 68k applications benefiting from the native libraries and system components).
Well the big problem AROS has is in the byte order (as you are probably aware), so this is the best option :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 01:16:36 PM »
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Would be nice if it could be more the other way around as well, and I don't mean Ambient. For example I think that a common shell/CLI would benefit everyone, so that simple scripts work alike across the different systems. AROS is lacking alot in its shell, and what is the point in duplicating the effort, and eventually end up with something that is almost the same, but with slightly different behaviour?

And no, I don't mean the console handler :hammer:
To be fair the MOS team returned a lot of bug fixed code, the process has been very beneficial for both AROS and MOS

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 02:09:14 PM »
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OK when you recompile Dpaint, Scala, Brillliance, Lightwave, Cinema 4d, Wordworth 7 for AROS, let me know and I'll jump on board.
Please read up about this stuff, these are exactly the programs that AROS can run using the Janus emulation, and in the cause of non harwear hitting apps, like Lightwave, then the Emu that Steve has just pointed to :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 03:14:39 PM »
Just in case anyone else is having dificulty; AROS has NOTHING to do with Linux... You can run AROS on top of Linux to aid debugging and development.

But AROS has nothing to do with Linux, it is an Operating sytem in its own right. Is everyone clear about that now? :-?

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 08:53:40 PM »
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Have you tried DPaint IV? It works in OS3.x (I'm sure I got 256 color RTG modes working before but don't quote me) and hence OS4. I would be surprised if it didn't work in MOS.
I think DPaint V was the first to use Screen Modes from the OS display mode database, thus would accept RTG screen modes... But it was totally flaky on the Chunky modes... :(

AROS does have Überpaint, which is a lovely DPaint clone :)

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 09:19:55 PM »
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@bloodline

DPaint IV still works in OS4.1, I was messing with it last night (well, I was able to start it and load a picture, hardly an exhaustive test).
I'll have to have another try later... :)

You know, I still have my DPaint 2 disk here :-D