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E3B - press release regarding potential software problems
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:38:07 PM »
E3B is informing users on potential software problems when using USB controllers together with products of Elbox (especially after Elbox software upgrades).
All USB controllers using the standard USB stack Poseidon might be affected.


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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 08:12:04 PM »
IIRC there were similar threats before, too, so I can't say I'm surprised about this.

Way to go elbollox...
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 09:51:08 PM »
Watch those RDBs!

Did Elbox's alleged unlicensed use of Poseidon ever get sorted out or resolved satisfactorily?

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EDIT: I guess not seeing as the last comment on that page is from December 2006...
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 09:56:31 PM »
Just lovely, it's like the old PowerUp/WarpUP days.  Ah, nostalgia....
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 10:03:12 PM »
Why can't we just be friends  :boohoo:
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 10:09:18 PM »
I wonder if Elbox is getting concerned with the news that someone here got a $5.00 ALi5273 USB card working with Mediator and the Poseidon demo through ArakAttack and OpenPCI?  No more $70 rebadged NEC USB card market for Elbox?    :idea:
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 11:09:57 PM »
I was pretty close to souping up my A3k with a Mediator (and custom case) - the news about the RDB trashing came just in time, and I'm not going to buy anything made by Elbox.

Anyone willing to sell his/her Prometheus?  ;-)
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2007, 11:34:40 PM »
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I wonder if Elbox is getting concerned with the news that someone here got a $5.00 ALi5273 USB card working with Mediator and the Poseidon demo through ArakAttack and OpenPCI?


Can anybody already confirm this for the Mediator 1200 LT4? If yes, it would be a great alternative.
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2007, 12:03:49 AM »
Who would have more than one USB controller anyway? It would only affect those people. I still think Elbox should abandon that poseidon junk and make their own. I also still don't see why people with the elbox usb stuff can't just register poseidon pretending to have one of those other non-elbox cards.
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2007, 12:17:08 AM »
I`m proud to say that all my Amigas are absolutely Elbox free (though I have an old Mroockeck in the spareparts drawer I got from somewhere). Statements like this (from Elbox) tell me that this is a good thing

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I also still don't see why people with the elbox usb stuff can't just register poseidon pretending to have one of those other non-elbox cards.


Fine you would have a registered stack then, that will not talk to spider.device by default. So where is the point.

If it is true what Argus says the question should be: Why is there a need for Spider ?

Just make no softwareupdates for your Elbox stuff and you are on the safe side. It isn`t like there are weekly updates incorporating groundshaking enhancements anyway.

I think this will totally backfire. People that have Elbox stuff aren`t affected as long as they don`t update their drivers and potential new customers will be scared away by this.
Not really interesting, but it`s there.
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2007, 01:21:25 AM »
Surely this cannot be legal under EU laws? There are anti competitive laws right ?

Not that it will make a difference. Remember the RDB trashing business (And it was real, and proven).

The way to sort Elbox out once and for all, is STOP supporting them.
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2007, 04:22:26 AM »
@buzz

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The way to sort Elbox out once and for all, is STOP supporting them.


Congratulations kill one of the last few Amiga classic hardware developers.:roll:
 

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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2007, 04:57:44 AM »
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Congratulations kill one of the last few Amiga classic hardware developers.


Oh, so the fact that they're one of the last remaining hardware companies means it's OK for them to treat their customers like sh*t?
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2007, 05:32:26 AM »
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Congratulations kill one of the last few Amiga classic hardware developers.

Oh shut up.  Don't you dare sit there and defend this absolutely reprehensible behavior.  Elbox *should* be driven off if this is how they're going to act.  I'd rather see the Amiga supported by Individual Computers and maybe a handful of garage-based hackers with a sense of ethics instead of this bunch of jerks.  To hell with Elbox.
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Re: E3B - press release regarding potential software problem
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2007, 05:43:47 AM »
Just to be clear, these elbox bashers do not represent the Amiga community as a whole. I whole heartedly support Elbox, and am a very happy customer.

Now this thing with E3B not supporting the use of a particular piece of hardware is what I consider to be childish. Even if it requires a seperate registration, the fact that it works is reason enough to support it... For the sake of US, the Amiga users.
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