Individual Computers Announces Clone-A Project

[Mikey_C]

I give up, some people just can't be helped :-(

[Plus4]

Your post was the only thing that was unnecessary.

[zombi]

Imagine Amithlon accessing the amiga custom chips on a PCI card; that would be sweet!

or Aros, or WinUAE

[Tomas]

I didn't have a problem with that. It was the advertising that was unnecessary.

So, i guess you want total amiga go the same way as all the other amiga magazines? Is not like there is any other way of getting the word out.
And infact they brought us this article for free, so i dont see any problem with including some words about total amiga.

[snowman040]

I'm not too happy with all that Amiga-Clone situation. Yes it's a great work and all, but imagine Amiga in joystick Chinese copies with 1000 games etc. that would take down the platform and all "future" Amiga development. It's strange that Ainc. has no statement about this, or they are just trying to sell another 2$-bang license....

On the other side I really like idea of modular chips that could be used both all-in-one chip and OCS replacement, great work Jens.

[neon32]

I agree with you, i dont like the idea of an Amiga in a joystick either. Especially as the hardware will be clones of the originals chips, that means it will be easy to hack the device and run any game you want on it.

I've been bought many of these new systems in a joystick including the commodore 64 one and they all feel.. well.. cheap to me.

My idea of a good use for this would be to incorperate it into the new Amiga's, i.e Sam etc, and idealy have the Catweasel incorperated too, creating a new system which also plays all your old disks (if they still work) and games.

[XDelusion]

I also would not be impressed if all this amounted to was an Amiga in a Joystick. I would be happy if the parts would be cheap enough to make such a thing fall near that price point, but I'd rather pay a little extra for something with a 040, standard PC ports and the like. Something portable so I can do my MOD tracking on the road within my favorite OS.

It would really really be a shame if all this amounted to was a kid's toy.

[snowman040]

Yes, that's what I had in mind as better solution. Even PCI card for PPC boards would be very nice and simple solution to run OCS/(AGA someday?) in native mode...

I'd do that if I had some money :-D

[Methuselas]

Good article. Nice to see something happening in Amiga-Land.

[Brian]

*dream*
Clone-AAA addon for A4000 with support for 8Mb chip.
*/dream*

[Kronos]

#snowman

Why would an Amiga-on-a-stick be bad ? And why should it have any (negative) inpact on next-gen-Amigas ?

Sounds like another case of Amiga-paranoia for me ...

[ChaosLord]

I want an AGA chipset in my cellphone!

That would just be the coolest thing ever!

Are FPGA's small enough to do it?

p.s. it better have 8 megs of chipram.

[Tomas]

Yes it's a great work and all, but imagine Amiga in joystick Chinese copies with 1000 games etc.

Is not that the classic has much of a future anyways. And i personally think that even a cheap copy is better than letting all those classic games just vanish. Not many people own a amiga these days, so such a device could be a nice way to play those oldies again. The c64 joystick seemed to be a sucess, so why would not a amiga one be? As long as it is decently priced, there would be not much need in making a copy.

My dream would be to see something like the c64 stick, but with a way to upgrade the games through something like a SD card and also have some expand  options of for example hooking up an additional stick.

[Tomas]

I agree with you, i dont like the idea of an Amiga in a joystick either. Especially as the hardware will be clones of the originals chips, that means it will be easy to hack the device and run any game you want on it.

What is wrong with letting people run what they want on it? I think the orginal Amiga owe alot to the bedroom programmers and i doubt it would have been much of a sucess if it wasnt open for 3rd party software. Why should you care if i for example hack my amiga in a stick and connect a keyboard and run octamed on it?

Maybe someone can even make it into a portable gaming device  :-)

[Dennis]

Great project. I knew he was working on this and now he finally announced it publicly. However, I want to clarify some points made in the article.
First of all: cycle-accurateness; Minimig is in fact a cycle-accurate implementation. Offcourse, Jens has access to a full-blown logic analyzer and an initial development team of 3 people which is an advantage in getting all the "wrinkles" out of the system. But still his project is not the only cycle-accurate one  :-) .
Secondly, in the article UAE was mentioned as one of my primary sources of information. This is not the case. Like I mentioned in my thread here at a.org, my primary source of information is the hardware reference manual with UAE and Winfellow as a "backup".
Lastly, Minimig will be opensource! I have picked up the project again after being occupied with other things (moving to a new house  8-) ) and I am considering releasing the source code much earlier. Then the community will be able to get the last bugs out of Minimig and make their own clone.

Dennis

[redrumloa]

@Dennis

Very cool! Thank you for all the effort! I hope you know how cool yor project is! :-D