Amy'05 Pics by Troika

[Piru]

@Etho

Why keep grilling and hard-boiling them ?

Because they've not lived up to their word.

They'll get there when there ready!

Good. Now, if they would only wait themselves until they're there. But I don't see that coming. We'll see tons of more press releases about press releases, missed presentation deadlines and stuff.

But, I guess it's kind of pointless to expect professionalistm these days.

[Etho]

Who's been lied to? when was a final Trokia release given? If there was one I missed it so my apologies.

OS5 is still a fantasy at the moment and why 5 before 4? Logic anyone?

I think given the none existent support from A.Inc with reguards to OS4 and any hardware devolpers other than Eyetech, then they have done a pretty bloody good job.

As I said Trokia are a tiny company (and I think that's pushing it. hope they don't mind me saying). It will take time for them.

[humppa]

Who's been lied to? when was a final Trokia release given? If there was one I missed it so my apologies.

I think you missed a lot. Start digging the archives starting around August/September 2005. The first you'll find is probably a "two production runs in 2005" statement.
You might also find out how to correctly spell "Troika". :lol:

OS5 is still a fantasy at the moment and why 5 before 4? Logic anyone?

Why OS5 before OS4? Because it's x86 and no stinkin' PPC!  :lol:

[Piru]

@Etho

Who's been lied to?

Anyone waiting the board?

when was a final Trokia release given?

Total Amiga Magazine, must've been somewhere in 2005. It said they

have two production runs scheduled for 2005

. Quite bold statement considering they haven't managed to get the design finished, even.

[Etho]

Oh please, does it really have to come to this: I spelt Trokia wrong Oh my I'll be sure to burn in the seven gates of hell!

As I said I apologies if I missed out on certain things. I simply can't keep up-to-date with everything that goes on all the time (work doesn't allow it) as I'm sure many others can't.

I will still however wish TROIKA all the best in there endeavors.

B.T.W. I've nothing against x86

[humppa]

As I said I apologies if I missed out on certain things. I simply can't keep up-to-date with everything that goes on all the time (work doesn't allow it) as I'm sure many others can't.

Btw, for BB3 in 2005 they announced to show a pre-production version of the board. Of course, nobody showed up.
Funnily enough that they showed even less than their announcement from 2005 at BB4 **this** year.

[Etho]

As I said sorry how many times, I'm not always able to keep up with all the developments. Sorry.

If I could somehow revolve my life around A.Inc, TROIKA and Genesi (which one have I spelt wrong BTW) I'd be able to live a life of tranquilty!

[Etho]

Your right I have missed alot, {bleep} happens. So now I know the TROIKA has been a few years in the pipe. But at least where now getting to a stage where there might finally be a prototype.

Weather or not the specs are any good I'm really not arsed I simply would like some sort of new hardware.

Yes it has taken a long time and it has stopped and started, but hey this is the closest to a new motherboard in a while.

Certainly good since there's been nothing since I got my micro A1.

[number6]

@cecilia

Nice link to your "example of positive creativity" that bears repeating:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3308
It's not the 1st time he has made such a generous offer.
Neither do I expect it to be the last.

It also is quite reassuring to know that he is involved and listed as "partner":
http://www.troikang.com/contact.html

All the best,
#6

[Waccoon]

Since 20 years nobody has being using rectangular traces anywhere. No, I'm not a professional in this area, but even I know this and have used this knowledge for my own designs (don't worry, no motherboards ;-P ).

For those who don't know, the whole point to curved/curled traces is to ensure all the signals arrive at their destination at the same time.  If things get out of sync, that's bad.

If anything, their routing software needs some critical updates.  :-)

[Tigger]

First of Joanna has been around since the Commodore days, and her analysis is correct, the Troika comment "we have working boards" seems disengenous when then best they can show is a poorly designed board missing over 1/2 its components, this board doesnt run, if it were completely loaded it won't run well if at all.    
    -Tig

[humppa]

It also is quite reassuring to know that he is involved and listed as "partner":

Reassuring of what? That Troika manages to build a working board that is on sale soon? After what they've shown (or rather failed to show), even a partnership with Mother Theresa wouldn't help very much.
I am just sorry for Guru Meditation, he didn't deserve this level of unprofessionalism.

[Troika]

@Piru
>>>@Mr Anonymous (Troika)<<<
the name is Josh Buckley

>>Troika, you are much wiser than to think I'd use Moo bunny as source.<<<
:-D

>>>>I am not using Moobunny as source, but Joanna Kurki, who has actually worked on PPC systems for years and knows the HW design stuff (unlike me). If she says it's FUBAR, then it is.<<<<<  

ahhh, but is she as good looking as Jerry Elsworth?  :-?

Nah, seriously if you and Joanna are near Amiwest hope you come by and take a peak at our Troika Table.  If my schedule permits I'll be there. We can sit down over a beer?  Otherwise we will have one of the best (IMHO) Os4 men showing off our goodies!

>>Don't worry, I won't be giving any $$ to you guys.<<<

Your welcome to port Mos to Amy if you wish. We havn't pushed real hard to promote Amy'05 yet and we have a couple of old Be PPC users that might want to use Amy, guess the geekport helps?

Our higher end "Project Panda" under development, might be of interest with its MPC7448.  If we have enough interest we will make a run of the high end 1.7 Ghz.  We released the starting point pics on AW the day of BB4 if you missed it: http://troikang.com/images/panda.png

>>>Regardless I reserve the right to comment and criticise.<<<

Thats fair, just allow me the same.  :roll:

>>>Just make sure you let us know when you have demoded it.<<<

Hope you will be at the right place and time and see with your own eyes.

[humppa]

Our higher end "Project Panda" under development, might be of interest with its MPC7448.

How can you say that it's "under development" when it's in fact an existing evaluation mainboard made by UDTech?
Do you think they will be impressed if you show pictures of **their** board around where you covered their brand name and trademark with your own DPaint-logo?
We have already seen the board. We know what kind of board it is. If you have any *real* news concerning licensing their design for your purposes, then that would be far more interesting.

Hope you will be at the right place and time and see with your own eyes.

BB6 in 2008 maybe?

[Troika]

@humppa

stop playing games or I won't be nice to you! :-D

>>>How can you say that it's "under development" when it's in fact an existing evaluation mainboard made by UDTech?<<<

Yes, but its now our "project panda" an Amy board that runs linux btw. We have several of them, so I know it very well.

We are making the changes the Amiga community will need, and be good for Os4.  PCI slots for one come to mind.

But you will have to wait and see those pics "when    its done tm"   :lol:

[humppa]

Yes, but its now our "project panda" an Amy board that runs linux btw.

I know that this UDTech board runs Linux. Your way of calling it "Amy board" reminds me of Alan Redhouse relabelling the Terons as AmigaOnes. :-P
But it surely speeds up "development" considerably. Much better than waiting ages for some home-brewn Amy'05 that doesn't work in the end. And there won't be any 90 degrees electrical traces I hope? ;-)  

We are making the changes the Amiga community will need, and be good for Os4.

What about removing those strange MiniPCI-slots by the way?

But you will have to wait and see those pics "when its done tm"

I wonder how it safely managed to pass the customs on its way from the Chinese factory.  :lol: