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Offline BlackMonk

Re: Mai Excited about Validation!
« Reply #105 on: February 27, 2003, 05:27:35 PM »
From downix:

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I've even solicited help from some Linux kernel hackers to find the right benchmarks in order to demonstrate system bugs (which is Genesi's claims) as well as to back-up the claim that the A1 w/ G4 is as fast as a Pentium 4, which has been claimed in more than one thread here.


Why bother?  I can't imagine there are many applications that run on both the P4 and G4... what will you compare, Linux-based games or something?

Otherwise you're asking a question with an already-known answer.  Depending on the tasks, the G4 is as fast or faster than the P4 or even Athlon.  Again, this is dependent on what the task is and how much optimization has gone into the software preforming the task.

http://bbs.xlr8yourmac.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000781.html

Heh, I'm scoring loads of fun on that Mac forum today.  Go ahead and test all you want, there's no point.  Want me to save you some time?  Here's the conclusion you'll get... "in some instances, the G4 can perform as fast or faster than some of the earlier, lower-clocked P4s.  However, the G4 even at 1.42 GHz is no match for Intel's latest flagship CPU, the 3.06 GHz HT-enabled P4."

That's hardly worth the effort.  Other people have done the work for you already.  Are you afraid that the Amiga-specific motherboards will somehow cripple performance?  Ok, that might be a valid concern.  But a raw CPU comparison?  Been there, done that.  What people apparently have claimed in these forums IS true... depending on the test being run.  :)
 

Offline BlackMonk

Re: Mai Excited about Validation!
« Reply #106 on: February 27, 2003, 05:41:10 PM »
From Darth_X

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You wouldn't happen to have the IBM PPC roadmap past the 970 would you?


Well, many people are predicting that the POWER5 is going to be fitting into the niche that the PPC970 is currently designed for.  Perhaps a PowerPC derivative of the POWER5 is what we can expect?

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-892836.html
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-984808.html
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2863929,00.html

I would think that the main push for the PPC970 in the next year and a half would be to get it scaling in speed.  I'm sure there will be some minor revisions that optimize the circuit layout and whatnot to improve speed and maybe fix some CPU errata.

Given IBM's focus, I'd also expect multithreading on-die ala the P4 HT and Xeon CPUs and maybe some hardware-based SSL or random number generation, stuff like that.  I don't see Altivec being greatly enhanced.  I don't see the PPC970 turning into a dual-core consumer offering.  It's already a 64-bit CPU.  It already has a 450 MHz double-pumped FSB (900 MHz effective rate) so that should keep it going for the next few years.  

Features-wise, what else are people wanting in a CPU?  Lower power/heat?  More integration?  Increased performance is a given, I'm just wondering if CPU manufacturers will invent some new stuff and then try to get the software manufacturers to make a market for their new hardware.  Who knows... it worked with MMX and for 3D card companies.
 

Offline Andre.Siegel

Re: Mai Excited about Validation!
« Reply #107 on: February 27, 2003, 07:37:01 PM »
@ Mr. B

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So you claim that 250 Euro or less is all of Genesi's contribution to the Amiga Award 2002?


Exactly.
 

Offline System

Re: Mai Excited about Validation!
« Reply #108 on: February 27, 2003, 11:00:22 PM »
@ Andre.Siegel

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Exactly.


Scrooges!  ;-)

Hardly worth the news announcements and banner ads then.
 

Offline System

Re: Mai Excited about Validation!
« Reply #109 on: February 28, 2003, 08:52:03 PM »
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He isn't an intolerant "dictator"


I would like to take back this comment. Currently I do have my doubts...