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Offline wonea

Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarifications
« on: December 04, 2002, 05:19:27 PM »
 

Offline Orgin

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2002, 05:32:25 PM »
Yes, let's have this thread once again.

Bring on the wooden clubs and start bashing heads!

 /Björn
Mooh?
 

Offline System

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2002, 05:43:19 PM »
It is kind of funny seeing Bill Buck's nonesense being spread as news everytime. Such guys make the Amiga community look like a daily soap opera. Everday new misinformation/FUD or childish behaviours.

It's almost unreal that this guy is actually a CEO of a company, he belongs in a kindergarten instead.  ;-)

Anyway you can read Alan/Eyetech's take on this posting here and here.
 

Offline cdfr

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2002, 05:52:54 PM »
>Bring on the wooden clubs and start bashing heads!

Yes, let's kill the people that fix the articia so we are sure to have no new machines  :-x
 

Offline Orgin

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2002, 05:57:13 PM »
@cdfr

By bashing heads I meant the fighting that usually goes on in these threads.

/Björn
Mooh?
 

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Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2002, 06:00:01 PM »
Here we go again :roll:

I'm going to have to make some official announcements as CEO and CTO of Redrumloa Industries Inc. :-o
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

Offline shIva

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2002, 06:01:09 PM »
really a daily soap  :-(
i think coming/working together would be the best for such a small market. they bring it all down.
shIva
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Offline System

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2002, 06:07:26 PM »
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Yes, let's kill the people that fix the articia so we are sure to have no new machines


Don't worry with or without Bill Buck there will be new boards. Whatever Bill says, IMO you shouldn't take him too seriously or as the one preaching the truth, IMO better would to hear other sides of the story as well(/only) (i.e. from Eyetech, MAI, Terra Soft, etc).

I know first hand that this guy shouldn't be taken too seriously. What is written by him in forums (or within emails) is mostly childish bluff, misinformation/FUD about 3rd parties or marketing hype.
 

Offline cdfr

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2002, 06:10:37 PM »
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It is kind of funny seeing Bill Buck's nonesense being spread as news everytime. Such guys make the Amiga community look like a daily soap opera. Everday new misinformation/FUD or childish behaviours.


Thruth hurts Mike. When you will figure out that the articia is crippled and that the Amigaone won't work maybe you will understand that YOU SPREAD FUD

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It's almost unreal that this guy is actually a CEO of a company, he belong in a kindergarten instead.


I though the same thing when two months ago Ben Hermans wrote on ANN that there were no bug and that the Morphos team could not figure out.

Then I though the same thing when a few weeks after Eyetech said that they have a fix for an articia bug.

This one was fixed by Bplan when they visited MAI. Since then he found other problems an fixed them with April.

No April, no working machine: As simple as that.

It is sad that Alan answered this way, I don't know how he will have working AmigaOnes now that they just have bashed bbrv.
Maybe he had no clue about the recent discovered bugs.
Eyetech could sell Pegaos boards branded AmigaOne and everyone would be happy but it will never happen with Ben cocky.  :-?
 

Offline cdfr

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2002, 06:13:40 PM »
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By bashing heads I meant the fighting that usually goes on in these threads.


Ok, sorry.
I thought you were a BAF like many other here
 

Offline z5

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2002, 06:15:28 PM »
This is all so sad, it's just unbelievable.

The great Amiga community...

Respect to the ones who originally created the real Amiga, like the A1000 i bought in 1986. If these would see what has been going on the last years, i think they would cry..

This is another sad day in a very sad year. :-x
A.miga D.emoscene A.rchive: Relive the dreams...
 

Offline cdfr

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2002, 06:19:28 PM »
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This is another sad day in a very sad year.  


Yes, BBRV asked to join forces and Eyetech just made the wrong decision.
 

Offline Blomberg

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2002, 06:25:59 PM »
Join forces?!!!?!

For someone wanting to join forces he (Mr. Buck) sure does have a strange way of showing it:

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We will commence legal action against Amiga Inc. this month.


That looks more like a declaration of war to me.
Not that I want one (a war), I respect both products and the creators of them, but the recent statements by Bill Buck has lessened my view of him considerably.

Offline SlimJim

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2002, 06:30:07 PM »
If there really exist such a thing as a BAF, those are
surely meeting their matches in the multiple BMF:s roaming
about. ;-)
 
Seriously, relax and try to be a liiiittle less focused on
interpreting everything solely on the basis of your own
 preference - that means all of you, on all sides of the
virtual fence...
 
Well, it was worth a try at least.
.
SlimJim
 

Offline System

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2002, 06:35:01 PM »
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Thruth hurts Mike. When you will figure out that the articia is crippled and that the Amigaone won't work


I am willing to take that risk.  ;-)  AmigaOne betatesters did not find anything seriously wrong with these boards for a very long time. They have been running all kinds of Linux distributions on them without major problems for months now.

Therefor it is easy to understand that the original bug wasn't something you would come across on a daily basis. But regardless this bug is now fixed due to efforts of Eyetech, bPlan and MAI, nothing Bill Buck deserves any credit for.

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Eyetech could sell Pegaos boards branded AmigaOne and everyone would be happy but it will never happen with Ben


They have their hands full with their AmigaOne boards and Linux MAI boards already. Many people prefer to have an AmigaOne (which can run AmigaOS4 legally). Everyone should know that one cannot just transfer a specific license to totally different hardware (similarly Mr Buck's AmigaDE claims are nonesense).

Next to the advantage of offering fully AmigaOS licensed hardware, I prefer Eyetech's AmigaOne because it already offers G4 solutions for christmas and offers me an additional 66 Mhz PCI slot.