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Offline whabang

Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« on: June 25, 2002, 10:13:15 PM »
Tom's hardware has made a review of the new Parhelia 512 from Matrox.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be as hot as the hype claimed...

Read more here.

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2002, 10:53:11 PM »
Mixed but postly positive review. Here's a clip:

Parhelia can indeed be viewed as an excellent alternative to the established competition, which makes things pretty exciting.

We already presume that the Parhelia will find many friends. However, if you are one of those who expect the Parhelia to be the super-product to topple NVIDIA from the 3D performance throne, you're going to be rather disappointed. Rather, the 3D quality is to be found in the details.
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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2002, 11:06:58 PM »
Don't forget the Matrox Parhelia-512 was tested on a Windows bloatware system, so on a AmigaOneG3-SE board with AmigaOS 4 you'll get different (read: much better) results  :-D
 

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2002, 11:09:18 PM »
True, and also Tom's hrdware has been heavily favoring Radeons lately, which we will also be getting(first even).
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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2002, 11:26:13 PM »
I think the results will start to improve when drivers get more mature and there comes games that can take full use of parhelia (&DX9).

When Parhelia drivers come available for AmigaOS4, I bet there is u13 technology available and Parhelias around 400Mhz... as well as some other new GFX cards.

Radeon8500 will be the 3D GFX card for my next Amiga.  ;-)
 

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2002, 11:47:23 PM »
AFAIK, even the Geforce3 cards are not being used to their fullest potential..

When programmed, a game must use the functions a card has to offer either by DX or OpenGL (whatever) , and I don't think that the matrox cards extra vertex shaders/pixel shaders/texture shaders are used..

I'm not saying that the review(er) is bad, the geforce4 should also be able to perform better when it's features are used to it's fullest, but I do wonder if the extra stuff on the parhelia were used..

Let's wait untill games are programmed using the DX9 API or something similar..
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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2002, 01:05:24 AM »
redrumloa:  If "Tom's hrdware has been heavily favoring Radeons lately," then why did they conclude that Nvidia's GeForce4 is still on top of "the 3D performance throne??"
 

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2002, 01:19:12 AM »
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redrumloa: If "Tom's hrdware has been heavily favoring Radeons lately," then why did they conclude that Nvidia's GeForce4 is still on top of "the 3D performance throne??"


I read Tom's hardware alot. They give the overall impression that they prefer Radeons over the Geforce line. IMO while the NVIDIA Geforce4 may hold a slight edge in performance over the Radeon8500, the Radeon8500 is a far superior card. basic 3D fillrate is not everything.
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Offline kubyx

Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2002, 03:01:21 AM »
I think it's due to immature drivers, and not the Parhelia hardwares fault.

Give it time, and things should speed up greatly.
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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2002, 03:24:04 AM »
Matrox's announced spec's for this card:

GPU:  375 Mhz
RamDAC: Dual 400 Mhz

Does not sound like the test board was a production unit!

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2002, 03:38:09 AM »
A quick glance at Matrox site and they seem to have removed all references to the speed (Mhz) of the GPU!!

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2002, 03:50:33 AM »
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GPU: 375 Mhz
RamDAC: Dual 400 Mhz

Does not sound like the test board was a production unit!



Matrox have never said their chip would run at 375MHz..
 

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2002, 03:55:20 AM »
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I read Tom's hardware alot.


You should find a new site to read.. Tom has become a joke in the hardware community..

Ace's Hardware, Beyond3D and Tech Report are good sites. Ace's will post their Parhelia review later this week.

Anand is also pretty good..
 

Offline GadgetMaster

Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2002, 04:17:20 AM »
HardOCP is good if you like squeezing the last ounce of performance out of hardware by overclocking.

Their tests are more demanding aswell.

Tom sold his site to some publishing company didn't he?

It doesn't seem that impartial anymore.
 

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Re: Tom's hardware review of Matrox Parhelia.
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2002, 05:26:22 AM »
I read HardOCP and Anandtech alot also.

WTF is wrong with Tom's Hardware now?
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