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Offline anarchic_teapot

Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« on: May 30, 2002, 07:55:28 PM »
A somewhat terse announcement by Thendic via PenguinPPC.org states that the Pegasos will ship as promised from Saturday 1st June... but without MorphOS, only Yellow Dog Linux.



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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2002, 07:57:42 PM »
Sorry Rose but your talking BS:

>Included with the motherboard will be a copy of Yellow Dog Linux.

Can't see the "only" here, and as this is a LinuxPPC-site it makes
absolute sense to not mention MorphOS.

On Thendics site you will find:

>Pegasos comes with Yellow Dog Linux and MorphOS.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2002, 08:12:51 PM »
Kronos

Well done for picking that up but there are two possible explanations.

1. That MorphOS isnt shipping with that board at the moment.

2. That MorphOS is shipping with that board but no one wants to mention it because it would scare/embarrass/confuse the Linuxians.

Theres probably a 3 or a 4 but which is it? If you find out more let us know!

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2002, 08:26:14 PM »
I agree with DaveP. The non-mention of MorphOS is certainly odd, but Kronos is right in saying that may simply mean they didn't want to confuse the Linux geeks. I should have put a question mark at the end of the title.

What puzzles me is that penguinppc.org is the only place I can find confirmation of the Pegasos shipping. Weird. You'd think all the Amiga forums would have had the info sent to them as well, since MorphOS is supposed to be an Amiga emulation.
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2002, 08:32:02 PM »
Stop Press - cancel the question mark. Neko, one of the MorphOS team, has just confirmed that the board is going out without MorphOS.

I entirely concur with his comments about a Linux-only PPC board, but you never know. Best of luck to them, anyway.
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2002, 08:36:50 PM »
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Neko, one of the MorphOS team, has just confirmed that the board is going out without MorphOS.


But will it be shipped with the board later on? Or is MorphOS not fully running on it yet?

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2002, 08:38:32 PM »
Neko said:
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> This is the MonkeyOS dream team? Good luck!

Well the Pegasos gets released on Saturday according to Thendic, so so we'll see just how good the hardware is at least. Then when MorphOS
gets released you can judge for yourself how good it is.
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2002, 08:41:11 PM »
@Coder
MorphOS will be available after they finished the remaining
parts that may have a fuzzy legal status.

So now the 2 systems are somewhat on equal grounds:

Initally shiped with Linux and the main OS in the waiting
line for unknown time.

But don't forget that Neko isn't an official bPlan/MorphOS PR-man,
His comments may not reflect bPlans plan, and that it's not
certain that he has full insight into the status of the problematic
parts of MorphOS.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2002, 08:44:42 PM »
@Kronos

Funny the end user version will supposedly be available saturday, but they never bothered to ship a developer board to Hyperion eh? Let me guess the end user board will be shipping and they will continue to ignore Hyperion?
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2002, 08:52:21 PM »
@red
a) A developer board would have included the latest MOS-beta.
b) All existing dev-boards are sold and the final boards are
still in production/testing.
c)My info says 2nd week, and a Saturday doesn't make sense
especially when you remember that today is a holiday in
Germany.

Hyperion can't be ignored after the final release because
there won't be any new dev-boards. Ben can order a Pegasos
at Vesalia just like everybody else.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2002, 08:57:28 PM »
This is a tacit admission of what had been refused to be confirmed all along, that MorphOS contained stuff that had potentially dubious legality that needed to be cleared up.

First time I have heard this confirmed. Perhaps all the allegations did them a favour, they got to clean up the code before it was released rather than put it out, got C+D order and had to retrofit changes and pay compensation.

Perhaps it worked out for the best.

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2002, 09:18:46 PM »
Someone claiming to be "Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck" posted to ANN:

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We will post a Press Release tomorrow on the Thendic-France website. The first Pegasos computer has been shipped. MorphOS is installed and it will run Yellow Dog Linux too. The penguinppc.org post does not fully include all the information we forwarded yesterday. The first production units are being delivered to a US based customer. Beginning next week, resellers will be able to order the Pegasos motherboard. The minimum order is ten units at 550 Euros/unit. A Developer Program will also be announced shortly. In May, Thendic-France hired three new developers to exclusively work on the Pegasos. Interested and qualified developers are welcome to contact us directly.


One hand doesnt know what the other hand is doing. So they are claiming Saturday is M-Day :-?
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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2002, 09:19:21 PM »
boing_boing

Damn Red was faster  :-x

But as I said Neko is not the PR-man of bPlan and probraly
only knows what he has to know, just like the folks working
on the add-ons for that other OS don't know every detail
about ExecSG.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2002, 09:24:27 PM »
The board looks great..... I would love to have working  Firewire, USB, etc.... Who knows ... maybe AMiga Inc will lighten up a bit and liscense them for MorphOS... Hey just a thought..

The more options we have the better off we may be... IMHO..

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Re: Pegasos to ship without MorphOS
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2002, 09:27:22 PM »
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maybe AMiga Inc will lighten up a bit and liscense them for MorphOS.


Seems your a bit confused  :-o  :-o

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else