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Title: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: guibrush on September 05, 2016, 07:15:39 PM
The GOLD core has been released for the vampire 600 V2, and it brings new cool features !

Full changelog :

* Added fusing for MOVE/EXT
* added MPU for finding illegal memory access
* added TRACE support
* fixed in CHK2, CMP2, MOVEM and CAS
* fixed some special LOOP condition
* fixed TRAPcc
* optimized MOVEQ/MOVE.l # and depending instructions

Download it :
http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/wiki/#latest_cores

Apollo team would be happy to get feedbacks from users using this new GOLD core. Be free to join #Apollo-Team IRC channel on Freenode to discuss it.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Crom00 on September 05, 2016, 08:48:56 PM
Here is the boot screen and new logo with AMMX

(http://i.imgur.com/m51jffe.png)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Gulliver on September 05, 2016, 09:41:55 PM
Is it possible to disable that questionable looking bootscreen?
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Rob on September 05, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
Quote from: Gulliver;813541
Is it possible to disable that questionable looking bootscreen?


It's hardly the infamous Paradox cractro for IISSORR.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Crom00 on September 06, 2016, 01:27:13 PM
If any demo coders want to do intros for Apollo Team I'm sure Apollo team will make use of them. Imagine what is possible with the RTG and the Apollo specs.

I don't think the boot screen can swapped.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: XDelusion on September 06, 2016, 01:36:40 PM
NEC Approved? :)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Jose on September 08, 2016, 12:11:55 PM
Getting closer to full MMU it seems. Man, can't wait for A1200/4000 versions.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: kolla on September 08, 2016, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: Jose;813620
Getting closer to full MMU it seems.

What makes you say so? The "added MPU for finding illegal memory access" thing?
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Jose on September 08, 2016, 03:15:19 PM
@Kolla
Yes.. Well, it's one step closer :)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Brian on September 09, 2016, 06:10:34 AM
I thought that FPU would be part of the Gold release. :/
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: psxphill on September 09, 2016, 08:23:57 AM
Quote from: Rob;813543
It's hardly the infamous Paradox cractro for IISSORR.

It's just another argument for open source.

You either provide people with the functionality they want or the tools to provide that functionality for themselves.
Title: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: SamuraiCrow on September 09, 2016, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: Brian;813661
I thought that FPU would be part of the Gold release. :/


You're not alone.  It was too difficult for now.  It might come after the chipset implementation.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Crom00 on September 09, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Apollo team is hard at work on FPU as I type.
(http://i.imgur.com/9NZdIvy.gif)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: kolla on September 09, 2016, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;813665
You're not alone.  It was too difficult for now.  It might come after the chipset implementation.


What, is Gunnar doing that too? I thought Gunnar was doing CPU (and FPU), not the entire SAGA thing as well.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Crom00 on September 09, 2016, 03:14:30 PM
I reckon if they are re-designing CPU's then implementing ECS / AGA in FPGA from all the available info out there should be possible. I mean ECS was done on MiniMIG and AGA was done for the MIST so why not...Given the pace they are moving at I'd say the future is bright!
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: wawrzon on September 09, 2016, 03:19:45 PM
the succession or priorities of the development are strange though. why not finish the cpu with the fpu as those units belong together anyway. and then turn to (s)aga as it is a completely different construction..
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: sim085 on September 09, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Isn't "Gold" the last release? Or other releases are planned?
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: kolla on September 09, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
Indeed, especially after the bragging about how awesomely fast the FPU would be, you would think it should be prioritized. But then again, maybe being able to play AGA games is more pressing from customers point of view.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Crom00 on September 09, 2016, 04:28:48 PM
I guess if they are planning a stand alone they gotta get on the ECS/ AGA stuff at some point.
Title: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: SamuraiCrow on September 09, 2016, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: sim085;813687
Isn't "Gold" the last release? Or other releases are planned?


Other releases are planned.  Some may cost something.  Gold release was the finallized instruction set.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: kolla on September 09, 2016, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: Crom00;813689
I guess if they are planning a stand alone they gotta get on the ECS/ AGA stuff at some point.


Yeah, well... we have seen how much time getting stand alone boards out can take.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: XDelusion on September 10, 2016, 12:35:22 AM
Has anyone tested these with Odamex, Strife, BOOM, or Quake?
Title: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: SamuraiCrow on September 10, 2016, 03:15:23 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;813717
Has anyone tested these with Odamex, Strife, BOOM, or Quake?


Doom and Quake are tested by the team often.  Quake runs rather slow due to the soft floating point math but Doom runs faster than an '060 would.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: psxphill on September 10, 2016, 10:06:13 AM
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;813694
Other releases are planned.  Some may cost something.


It's a good job that everyone who has ever owned an Amiga is willing to pay for every single piece of software they ever used & didn't look for ways to copy anything illegally. Wait......
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: eXeler0 on September 20, 2016, 10:01:31 PM
@XDelusion How far did you get with your AB3D work using Odamex?
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Niding on November 29, 2016, 05:40:29 PM
ShK shared a Vampire500 video using Arties Netsurf NoFPU build, while playing MP3. Pretty neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbOPe0csxg
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Faerytale on November 29, 2016, 11:13:58 PM
Quote from: Niding;817041
ShK shared a Vampire500 video using Arties Netsurf NoFPU build, while playing MP3. Pretty neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbOPe0csxg


WOW! Vampire makes Amiga fun again :)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: F1Lupo on November 29, 2016, 11:18:53 PM
FPU please for 500/1200 version :hammer:
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: amiadudeorwat on November 29, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
ShK has a Delfina, so he may have been playing the MP3 over that consuming almost no CPU load.  Nice Netsurf demo though.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Niding on November 29, 2016, 11:59:44 PM
Quote from: amiadudeorwat;817057
ShK has a Delfina, so he may have been playing the MP3 over that consuming almost no CPU load.  Nice Netsurf demo though.

I got V600, Netsurf NoFPU and AmigaAMP, but no sound/musiccard. No slowdown while playing 320 kbps module at 44khz. The only times I hear choppy playback is when i resize the browserwindow.
No slowdown at other times like when I load pages or scroll up and down the screen.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: amiadudeorwat on November 30, 2016, 01:05:15 AM
Quote from: Niding;817060
I got V600, Netsurf NoFPU and AmigaAMP, but no sound/musiccard. No slowdown while playing 320 kbps module at 44khz. The only times I hear choppy playback is when i resize the browserwindow.
No slowdown at other times like when I load pages or scroll up and down the screen.

"No slowdown" isn't the same thing as AmigaAMP consuming some 20-30% of the CPU normally, without offloading the MP3 decoding to Delfina, Prisma, etc.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: PPC on November 30, 2016, 04:56:52 AM
Quote from: Faerytale;817054
WOW! Vampire makes Amiga fun again :)


It does! Since i have my vampire v2 600 i turn it on every day :)

And the latest netsurf build runs pretty nice also on silvercore 9.

@klx300r
FPU will come for all vampires, it's done when it's done :)
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Vlabguy1 on December 01, 2016, 12:32:01 AM
How to get on the list to purchase one?


Quote from: guibrush;813538
The GOLD core has been released for the vampire 600 V2, and it brings new cool features !

Full changelog :

* Added fusing for MOVE/EXT
* added MPU for finding illegal memory access
* added TRACE support
* fixed in CHK2, CMP2, MOVEM and CAS
* fixed some special LOOP condition
* fixed TRAPcc
* optimized MOVEQ/MOVE.l # and depending instructions

Download it :
http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/wiki/#latest_cores

Apollo team would be happy to get feedbacks from users using this new GOLD core. Be free to join #Apollo-Team IRC channel on Freenode to discuss it.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: midway on December 01, 2016, 05:37:23 AM
Google Vampire and Amiga, it will show. I signed up half a year ago and still no email that they are close to production :roflmao:
 
 I will keep my good old 060 boards
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: gregthecanuck on December 01, 2016, 07:48:12 AM
@Midway

Large production batches of the V600 have finally started. First batch of 100 is being shipped and second batch is in process. The boards are being mostly pre-assembled now saving a lot of time.

More info here: http://forum.apollo-accelerators.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Lemaru on December 01, 2016, 11:33:04 AM
Quote from: midway;817125
Google Vampire and Amiga, it will show. I signed up half a year ago and still no email that they are close to production :roflmao:
 
 I will keep my good old 060 boards

I signed up in April and now payed up and in batch 2. Shouldn't be long now
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: midway on December 01, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
Nice !
 
 Thanks Greg. hope I get an email soon then:hammer:
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: magnetic on December 01, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
Quote from: kolla;813688
Indeed, especially after the bragging about how awesomely fast the FPU would be, you would think it should be prioritized. But then again, maybe being able to play AGA games is more pressing from customers point of view.


both of those things are extremely hard to program and im not holding my breath for another 2 years for this support.
Title: Re: GOLD core released for Vampire 600 V2
Post by: Niding on January 24, 2017, 01:14:16 AM
GOLD2 is officially released for V600 V2 and V500 V2(+) !

Changed are :
* AMMX greatly improved
* Added CPU counters
* Added TURTLE mode
* Modified PCR register. 68080 now acts as a 060.
* Modified MOVEC Rc,Rn (reads in User mode and Writes in Supervisor mode)
* Improved some loops patterns
* Improved self-modifying code support
* Improved memory controller to be full 32-bit
* Improved HDMI core

Also, SAGA Driver package has been updated to 0.11 to accomodate new things.

All info and downloads are on :
http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/doku.php?id=start

Many thanks to all the team for the huge work put into that release !

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=85686