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Title: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: OlafS3 on June 10, 2014, 12:41:30 PM
If you look at the bottom of this site you read this:

Amiga.org and logo Copyright © 2014, A-EON Technology Ltd

What does that mean? A-eon is owner of the site? And if yes what does that mean for the users. Amiga.org was (up to now) 68k orientated and open to discussions (even controversial ones that were stopped on other site(s) )

And:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2273
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2958
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 10, 2014, 12:59:28 PM
I noticed Amigakit and Trevordick were coloured red today. Trevordick is now also named administrator and webmaster. I'm guessing he took over the site. I haven't been here much lately so someone else or everyone might already know. If he has taken it over i think that would be excellent news for the site. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: OlafS3 on June 10, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: Kesa;766087
I noticed Amigakit and Trevordick were coloured red today. Trevordick is now also named administrator and webmaster. I'm guessing he took over the site. I haven't been here much lately so someone else or everyone might already know. If he has taken it over i think that would be excellent news for the site. Fingers crossed.

Why "excellent news"? I am more for neutral ownership regarding forum. We all know what both a-eon and Amigakit are mostly interested in.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 10, 2014, 01:06:09 PM
I am just assuming it would be good as he comes across as a decent bloke who has genuine passion for Amiga's. I also think he is neutral as he afaik uses aros and mos and not just AOS4.x.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: itix on June 10, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
Lets hope moderators come back.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: OlafS3 on June 10, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: Kesa;766089
I am just assuming it would be good as he comes across as a decent bloke who has genuine passion for Amiga's. I also think he is neutral as he afaik uses aros and mos and not just AOS4.x.


we will see... it will hopefully stay vastly as it is

At least I would expect some informations or news about such a drastic change
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: OlafS3 on June 10, 2014, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: itix;766090
Lets hope moderators come back.


Moderators come back?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: eliyahu on June 10, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
@thread

the mods are all still here. i'm sure matthew and trevor will say 'hi' to everyone as soon as they can. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: slayer on June 10, 2014, 01:38:11 PM
Times are changing...
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 10, 2014, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: Kesa;766089
I am just assuming it would be good as he comes across as a decent bloke who has genuine passion for Amiga's. I also think he is neutral as he afaik uses aros and mos and not just AOS4.x.


Agree, I see no reason why ownership of the site and keeping it alive is a problem because of Trevor's other interests.  I don't think he is looking to make money out of it otherwise he wouldn't be dabbling in Amiga.

But I guess the socialists here will see it as an affront to free society and free speech. Perhaps a few hackers in the mix will now have a target for their ideals....
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: OlafS3 on June 10, 2014, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: gertsy;766098
Agree, I see no reason why ownership of the site and keeping it alive is a problem because of Trevor's other interests.  I don't think he is looking to make money out of it otherwise he wouldn't be dabbling in Amiga.

But I guess the socialists here will see it as an affront to free society and free speech. Perhaps a few hackers in the mix will now have a target for their ideals....


Time will tell what will change... in worst case people change to another forum

What has "free speech" to do with "socialist? We here call it democracy and free media.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Akiko on June 10, 2014, 02:02:39 PM
Good news, and maybe some members we've lost like Jens Schoenfeld will come back now.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amigakit on June 10, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
Hi Guys

We are working on an official public announcement since yesterday.

In the meantime, as a priority we have been introducing ourselves to the Amiga.org staff and receiving their feedback.

Please bear with us as there is so much to do regarding administration and technical operations in these type of events.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: cgutjahr on June 10, 2014, 02:20:07 PM
Quote
I see no reason why ownership of the site and keeping it alive is a problem because of Trevor's other interests.

The problem is not Trevor, the problem is that Trevor usually comes with a lot of baggage in the form of paranoid, greedy, ego-driven wannabe VIPs that really do not understand how forums work. Or products. Or communication in general.

And it never was a good idea to have a vendor run a big Amiga community site. It hurt this site badly when Wayne was alternatively working/bending over for AInc and Genesi, the early years of AW could be described as a field experiment in scamming as many people as possible - and the official OS4 forums only exist to move most of the OS4 related discussion to a place where ssolie can delete everything that "is off-topic", "has been answered already" or "was written by a troll".

It should also be noted that amigakit has a habbit of using Forums for free advertisement. As far as I'm concerned, moderators should reign them in, not answer to them ;)

That said: Thanks a lot to Trevor and Matthew for freeing us from the previous owner's reign of terror.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: giZmo350 on June 10, 2014, 02:21:21 PM
Welcome new site owners Trevor and Matt! Cheers to a chance to bring back the glory days! IMO the site could use a bit of new professionalism and, dare I say, a tad bit of commercialism. Maybe even bring back the occasional contest freebie (like win an ACA board or even an NG system once in a while)! Keep in mind, support for 68K is here to stay simply due to AmigaKit's involvement - that's a big part of Matt's living... that said Trevor and Matts' partnership will ensure a balanced site with upcoming NG announcements. I really think consolidating the Amiga market under Amiga.org is a good idea due to the fact that it's in the best interest of Matt and Trevor to work with the entire Amiga community. Yea, hope Jens returns too! :) Best of luck and take it Breezy!
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Duce on June 10, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
I'm sure this didn't happen overnight.  That being said, I've never had anything but good experiences with Trevor and his company, or Amigakit for the most part.

But, and I'm sure you saw this coming, there is a point to be made.  I do find it a little low *if* the most recent pledge drive for donations by "SysAdmin" and crew occurred while a buyout/takeover was being brokered with the new ownership.  A.org isn't a charity case, anyone with half a brain can do basic analytics math on the clickthru links and figure out the site may not be making people rich, but it's not a loss leader.

If I'd given cash to support the site only to see it taken over without virtually any notice or discussion and I didn't care for the new owners or the lack of transparency by the most recent owners, I'd be a bit chuffed.  This being said, if you don't like something, go elsewhere or start your own alternative I suppose.  Do I think the new owners will screw the place up?
I do not, but these people do have interests of their own and having a corporate entity on the masthead will have some effects on principle alone.  Just like people would be a bit troubled if their local hospital was to suddenly be bought out by Pfizer, there's some conflict of interests involved - but it's not my site to run, so fair dinkum.  That A-EON tag will have some effects even if nothing else changes here, for better or for worse.  I hope the place remains as well balanced as it is, but as much as I gripe about the blue camp fanatics fighting with the red camp fanatics, I do worry that the Bluecrew will see this as a sell-out of their platform neutral forum that is A.org.

$16 a month will get you a host with unlimited bandwidth and better uptime anyways, when it comes down to brass tacks if one chooses to take their business elsewhere or start their own offering.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Iggy on June 10, 2014, 03:36:15 PM
I, for one, am thrilled at the idea.
Trevor is a great guy and an Amiga enthusiast.
Now, as the Amiga community has a history of attacking those investing in Amiga related ventures, I think we can expect some to be negative about this.
Hopefully this won't result in unnecessary attacks.
The guy is investing in our future.

BTW - Since A-eon is producing a sound card for legacy systems, what makes anyone think a bias will be present?
I don't use OS4 (the operating system used by most A-eon system owners), and I don't expect there to be any such focus.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: number6 on June 10, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
Quote from: amigakit;766101
Hi Guys

We are working on an official public announcement since yesterday.

In the meantime, as a priority we have been introducing ourselves to the Amiga.org staff and receiving their feedback.

Please bear with us as there is so much to do regarding administration and technical operations in these type of events.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.



You might wish to consider cross posting the announcement when completed. Beyond the obvious choices...if you want to reach some old timers, I suggest:

http://www.whyzzat.com/forums/retro/

Best of luck.

#6
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: eliyahu on June 10, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
@thread

before we start worrying about changes, how 'bout we actually, ya know, wait for the changes -- if there actually will be any -- and then worry? just a thought. anyway, i couldn't be more pleased that matthew and trevor are now the amiga.org stewards.

(http://blog.trafficshaper.com/wordpress-content/uploads/2010/12/hailants.jpg)


-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Iggy on June 10, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
All things considered, isn't it about time for a statement from Trevor?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: number6 on June 10, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: Iggy;766114
All things considered, isn't it about time for a statement from Trevor?



He's 16 hours ahead of you, if he's home.

#6
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amigakit on June 10, 2014, 04:26:01 PM
Trevor is not very well today and remember it is middle of the night where he is.

As I stated earlier we are putting together a press release.  In the meantime we have made contact with the moderators here and Amiga.org staff.

There are many other back office tasks that need to be performed, so please bear with us during the busy period of time.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Niding on June 10, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
Trevor and Amigakit taking over amiga.org makes sense. Its the web adress assosiated with Amiga which comes most natural and easy to navigate. No wonder the company(ies) which seems to invest the most in the brand wants this URL.

Welcome and good luck :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: ssolie on June 10, 2014, 05:42:18 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;766113
before we start worrying about changes, how 'bout we actually, ya know, wait for the changes -- if there actually will be any -- and then worry?

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

Cue conspiracy theories....... now! :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 10, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Awesome news, congrats guys!

...I was also going to make a comment about conspiracy theories, but I see someone already beat me to it, lol.  ;)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: eliyahu on June 10, 2014, 06:23:58 PM
Quote from: ssolie;766122
I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

Cue conspiracy theories....... now! :)
Kent Brockman:   Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say  it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on  the goo inside?

Professor: Yes I would, Kent.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: James2002 on June 10, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
I think that is great idea. Hopefully it work out for best.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: MiAmigo on June 10, 2014, 07:16:01 PM
Quote from: OlafS3;766085
If you look at the bottom of this site you read this:

Amiga.org and logo Copyright © 2014, A-EON Technology Ltd

What does that mean? A-eon is owner of the site? And if yes what does that mean for the users. Amiga.org was (up to now) 68k orientated and open to discussions (even controversial ones that were stopped on other site(s) )

And:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2273
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2958


Question: How does this effect, uh, donations? I donate yearly - is it still needed?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Gulliver on June 10, 2014, 07:47:16 PM
http://youtu.be/VKVjMbGfirs

:)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 10, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
We'll I'll be! Ya mean not every thread that hints at AmigaOS 4.1 news won't immediately be trolled on by the usual suspects anymore :bitch:

Wow ok but that'll take a while to get used to I must admit (waves at old buddy TMHTG) :knuddel:
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Kees on June 10, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
Hello!

Been awhile since I posted!

/awaken ;)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 10, 2014, 08:50:40 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;766126
Awesome news, congrats guys!

...I was also going to make a comment about conspiracy theories, but I see someone already beat me to it, lol.  ;)


Blame the smoking man...The truth is out there:p
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: kickstart on June 10, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
Then an amiga forum without amiga... hope without osx, ipad, ipod and apple derivates too.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Iggy on June 10, 2014, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: klx300r;766143
We'll I'll be! Ya mean not every thread that hints at AmigaOS 4.1 news won't immediately be trolled on by the usual suspects anymore :bitch:

Wow ok but that'll take a while to get used to I must admit (waves at old buddy TMHTG) :knuddel:

Well, as a MorphOS user, I'll try my best to live up to that old misconception.
But most of us are SO over that.
So bring on more OS4 coverage.

(We do have a better OS though). :laugh1:
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: crawff on June 10, 2014, 09:28:33 PM
Will Franko have his ban removed?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amoskodare on June 10, 2014, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: crawff;766149
Will Franko have his ban removed?


Yes..?   (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/eating/popcorn.gif)



oops :sealed:


;-)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 10, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
How about we remove Franko's ban and ban Kickstart instead?  That guy never has a positive thing to say about anything, LOL.  :rant:

;)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Akiko on June 10, 2014, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: klx300r;766143
We'll I'll be! Ya mean not every thread that hints at AmigaOS 4.1 news won't immediately be trolled on by the usual suspects anymore :bitch:


Yeah I hope that constant crap and games will no longer be tolerated around here, from whatever shade.


Quote from: crawff;766149
Will Franko have his ban removed?


Aww.. Oh! :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: yssing on June 10, 2014, 10:38:55 PM
This is great news :D I like it a lot.

Having a corporate direction could turn out to be a really good thing for the community.
Oh and loose all the MAC news, MS FUD and what not.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Karlos on June 10, 2014, 10:48:08 PM
The owner has a ship?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Fransexy_ on June 10, 2014, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: Karlos;766158
The owner has a ship?


Yes, with a lot of "Amigas"


(http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachments/boating-forum/231870d1333513940-best-22-25-all-around-boat-ice_girls_lake_boat-271.jpg)


;-P ;-P ;-P
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amoskodare on June 10, 2014, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: yssing;766157

Oh and loose all the MAC news, MS FUD and what not.

+1
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 10, 2014, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: yssing;766157
This is great news :D I like it a lot.
..
Oh and loose all the MAC news, MS FUD and what not.


+ 1 no Apple news PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amoskodare on June 10, 2014, 11:10:07 PM
@klx300r

I hear you :-P

:destroy:

Haha :insane:


:angel:...
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 10, 2014, 11:34:40 PM
Maybe this buyout explains the I and the G in the Amiga.org banner moving one pixel to the right.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: TheMagicM on June 10, 2014, 11:55:13 PM
I'm ok with it.  This site is community driven.  You guys make it what it is.   There are alot of Amiga/OS4/MorphOS fans here.  At times we get at each others throats, but all in all, its a good place to read about whatever Amiga OS you support.  

I dont log in every day but I do visit the site a few times a week.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: TheMagicM on June 10, 2014, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: Kesa;766165
Maybe this buyout explains the I and the G in the Amiga.org banner moving one pixel to the right.


You're absolutely correct.  There will be a free lifetime membership awarded to you. Its on its way.  Wait for it.  LOL.  


Seriously...is it moved a pixel over?  LOL
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: TrevorDick on June 11, 2014, 12:13:10 AM
Hello from down-under. As Matthew said we will issue an official news release about the change in ownership but, speaking as an Amiga enthusiast I am interested in all Amiga flavours and that includes Classic, Next-generation (whatever colour), emulation and new retro-hardware together with anything that has an Amiga-like feel and look. Amiga.org is oldest Amiga web portal, serving the community since 1994 and we think it should cover all Amiga and Amiga-like topics and interests without fear or favour.

TrevorD
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 11, 2014, 01:17:31 AM
@ Trevor

Amen to that :knuddel::pint:
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: A1260 on June 11, 2014, 01:20:33 AM
welcome trevor as site owner :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: danbeaver on June 11, 2014, 01:37:28 AM
There is a Chinese saying, "Black cat, white cat; as long as it catches mice."

Ever onward!
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Matt_H on June 11, 2014, 01:43:07 AM
Quote from: eliyahu;766113
@thread

before we start worrying about changes, how 'bout we actually, ya know, wait for the changes -- if there actually will be any -- and then worry? just a thought. anyway, i couldn't be more pleased that matthew and trevor are now the amiga.org stewards.

(http://blog.trafficshaper.com/wordpress-content/uploads/2010/12/hailants.jpg)


-- eliyahu


Well said, Kent Brockman. And in case others are not aware, I believe Trevor also authors a regular (classic) Amiga retrospective column in Amiga Future. I have no concerns about his partiality or earnest dedication to our hobby. And I say this as a regular user of 68K, MOS, and OS4.


@ Kees

Welcome back! Always nice to see returnees from the "old(ish) days" :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 11, 2014, 01:45:46 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;766183
There is a Chinese saying, "Black cat, white cat; as long as it catches mice."

Ever onward!

There's also another famous saying "Together we stand, divided we...... well let's just say it's good to see the division of old will be no more with our new landlords:D
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Iggy on June 11, 2014, 01:50:58 AM
Hey Trevor!
Great news.
Now if we could only talk Bill and Ben into selling their respect companies to you we'd be all set.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: som99 on June 11, 2014, 03:01:37 AM
Welcome Trevor :)

A little question, im subscribing to Amiga.org and have been for ages, should I keep the plan or cancel and re-subscribe later on when all is set up?
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: TrevorDick on June 11, 2014, 03:52:34 AM
Quote from: som99;766197
A little question, im subscribing to Amiga.org and have been for ages, should I keep the plan or cancel and re-subscribe later on when all is set up?

I would suggest just leaving everything as is for the moment while we find our feet. We have changed the PayPal links and have turned off the advertising.

TrevorD
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Duce on June 11, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
Glad to see the adverts going away, at least in the incarnation they were in previously.  It was just too blatant and not at all beneficial to the users here, I honestly found them more invasive and completely unrelatable than Facebook's.  I don't mind seeing adverts if they are at all related to the peoples interests.  You'd click a supposed computer link and get dumped to some auction on ebay with a guy selling vintage beer caps or a used toaster or something.

I don't begrudge anyone running clickthroughs on their forums to support the site, but there's better ways of doing it than what we had.  With or without corporate support, a site isn't free to run, and well placed ads are more than a good trade off.  It costs you money to run the site that we all love, after all.

Thanks for keeping us posted, Trevor.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Pyromania on June 11, 2014, 03:11:39 PM
For the first time in it's 20 year history Amiga.org is owned by a European company. Most Amiga's were sold in Europe and it still has a large following there so this is exciting news.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: itix on June 11, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;766094
@thread

the mods are all still here. i'm sure matthew and trevor will say 'hi' to everyone as soon as they can. :)

-- eliyahu


Oh, sorry. Didnt know you were moderator here.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: itix on June 11, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: OlafS3;766092
Moderators come back?


Yeah... I mean this site has been virtually unmoderated.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Megamig on June 11, 2014, 04:24:22 PM
Hopefully the new owners will lift the standard on this forum.

Irrelevant talk about MS Surface Tablets and the 99 cent eBay nagger have really let this forum down in recent times.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Duce on June 11, 2014, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: Megamig;766222
Hopefully the new owners will lift the standard on this forum.

Irrelevant talk about MS Surface Tablets and the 99 cent eBay nagger have really let this forum down in recent times.


God forbid people just not read the sections or posts they aren't interested in.  Personally, I come to A.org because there's discussion on topics other than just ones based on machines that stopped being manufactured 20 years ago.

I find it easier to just not read the things that I'm not personally interested in, and I don't see much creative criticism in slamming said topics or posters/threads.  But c'est la vie, I guess.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: persia on June 11, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Then stop reading the "Other Operating Systems" forum, because it's about *gasp* Other Operating Systems!

Nobody is forcing you to read that forum, what's the point of trying to censor it?  Just read the Amiga Forums for goodness sake.  We all live in 2014, some of us want to talk about stuff that is relevant to 2014!

Quote from: Megamig;766222
Hopefully the new owners will lift the standard on this forum.

Irrelevant talk about MS Surface Tablets and the 99 cent eBay nagger have really let this forum down in recent times.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F0LLETT on June 11, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: Megamig;766222
Hopefully the new owners will lift the standard on this forum.

Irrelevant talk about MS Surface Tablets and the 99 cent eBay nagger have really let this forum down in recent times.


:(, Damn, Im off those were two of my most favorite threads.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: spirantho on June 11, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
Another vote here for our new insect overlords!

I'm also much more likely to donate now that there won't be any more Mac, Surface, Linux  and PC threads deliberately designed to get people arguing.
Sure, the threads can be there in the Other  OS forum section, but when arguing about Surface Pro machines pushes valid Amiga talk off the front page of the forum, then something's gone wrong somewhere- they should be kept off the front page IMHO.
Plus it looks really bad when you want to show people how alive the Amiga is. and when they go to an Amiga forum, the non-Amiga threads are at the top of the recent threads, and have five times as many posts in as threads which actually have some relevance to the Amiga.

Luckily, I am not a moderator. :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: persia on June 11, 2014, 06:10:28 PM
Perhaps the front page could show only new posts in the Amiga Forums and to get the whole site new posts you have to click "New Posts?"  I'd be ok with that.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Iggy on June 11, 2014, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: spirantho;766226
Another vote here for our new insect overlords!

I'm also much more likely to donate now that there won't be any more Mac, Surface, Linux  and PC threads deliberately designed to get people arguing.
Sure, the threads can be there in the Other  OS forum section, but when arguing about Surface Pro machines pushes valid Amiga talk off the front page of the forum, then something's gone wrong somewhere- they should be kept off the front page IMHO.
Plus it looks really bad when you want to show people how alive the Amiga is. and when they go to an Amiga forum, the non-Amiga threads are at the top of the recent threads, and have five times as many posts in as threads which actually have some relevance to the Amiga.

Luckily, I am not a moderator. :)


No, WE are lucky you are not a moderator.
I'm fine with arguments.
I like topic diversity.
And posts rise to or fall from the front page depending on their popularity.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: spirantho on June 11, 2014, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: Iggy;766229
No, WE are lucky you are not a moderator.

And posts rise to or fall from the front page depending on their popularity.


That's what I meant. :)

But if the most popular threads on an Amiga forum are threads that have zero to do with Amigas.... then why call it an Amiga forum at all?
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amigakit on June 11, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
Hi

Going forward in the future, I am resolved to restore Amiga subjects firmly as the main topics of discussion of this website, so no more off topic subjects in the main forums. Looking at other websites such as English Amiga Board and A1k.org, the emphasis is on good quality discussion about all things Amiga which is very much what this board used to be like 10 years ago.  Amiga.org can become a vibrant, interesting community where users from all flavours of Amiga can call their internet home.
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: nicholas on June 11, 2014, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: amigakit;766238
Hi

Going forward in the future, I am resolved to restore Amiga subjects firmly as the main topics of discussion of this website, so no more off topic subjects in the main forums. Looking at other websites such as English Amiga Board and A1k.org, the emphasis is on good quality discussion about all things Amiga which is very much what this board used to be like 10 years ago.  Amiga.org can become a vibrant, interesting community where users from all flavours of Amiga can call their internet home.

Sounds good to me! :)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: F1Lupo on June 11, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
Quote from: nicholas;766240
Sounds good to me! :)

+ 1:)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: amoskodare on June 11, 2014, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: amigakit;766238

Going forward in the future, I am resolved to restore Amiga subjects  firmly as the main topics of discussion of this website, so no more off  topic subjects in the main forums.
Amen to this as well :)


:hat:  ...
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: Dr.Bongo on June 11, 2014, 08:27:19 PM
Personally I find this great news! Looking forward to seeing how things progress :)
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: kickstart on June 11, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
This forum have too many forums and make it laberintic, most of them without any traffic, need to be simplistic with some tutorials for beguinners (preparing CF cards, install file systems, DIY, jne...)

And please, the sentence "no one is forcing too..." become the most popular answer when dont know what to answer.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 11, 2014, 10:21:21 PM
Can we get rid of the immortality, electric cars and quantum computing sections in the coffee house?
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: MiAmigo on June 11, 2014, 10:31:42 PM
Does that kind of stuff go on in coffee houses where you're from? ;)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: danbeaver on June 11, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: amigakit;766238
Hi

Going forward in the future, I am resolved to restore Amiga subjects firmly as the main topics of discussion of this website, so no more off topic subjects in the main forums. Looking at other websites such as English Amiga Board and A1k.org, the emphasis is on good quality discussion about all things Amiga which is very much what this board used to be like 10 years ago.  Amiga.org can become a vibrant, interesting community where users from all flavours of Amiga can call their internet home.


"From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended across the Continent."
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: jj on June 11, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
so if due to the new site owners is this now a Welsh website :)
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: F0LLETT on June 11, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: JJ;766259
so if due to the new site owners is this now a Welsh website :)


Na, wrth gwrs, nid. ;)
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: odin on June 12, 2014, 01:48:17 AM
Quote from: Kees;766144
Hello!

Been awhile since I posted!

/awaken ;)


Holy mothballs, Batman! WB No'maam!
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: persia on June 12, 2014, 03:11:06 AM
Quote from: JJ;766259
so if due to the new site owners is this now a Welsh website :)



It's a Kiwi website "fush n chops" and "sex" for six all the way.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Matt_H on June 12, 2014, 03:28:55 AM
Quote from: Kesa;766255
Can we get rid of the immortality, electric cars and quantum computing sections in the coffee house?


Yes, please! If someone wants to talk about those things, great, but let's just have those discussions live in the science/tech and general Coffee House sections where they belong.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: L8Knight on June 12, 2014, 03:43:22 AM
Congratulations to AmigaKit and A-Eon!
Long Live the Amiga!!

  --Barry Steenbergh
Title: Re: Owner ship of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 12, 2014, 03:54:14 AM
Quote from: amigakit;766238
Hi

Going forward in the future, I am resolved to restore Amiga subjects firmly as the main topics of discussion of this website, so no more off topic subjects in the main forums. Looking at other websites such as English Amiga Board and A1k.org, the emphasis is on good quality discussion about all things Amiga which is very much what this board used to be like 10 years ago.  Amiga.org can become a vibrant, interesting community where users from all flavours of Amiga can call their internet home.


Don't mind that at all.  Can we also go forward into the past?  That would be cool.  Tweak a few things on the Gray's Computing Almanac of 1987.

I feel a little twinge of excitement.

Where's that AmiKit post again I might just give that a try.
You know with Windows 8.1 (gasps) you could set up a start screen that looks like an Amiga Workbench with "Metro" Icons to fire up your WinUAE configs for your fav Amiga.  Make Win 8.1 look like an Amiga Kiosk.

BTW, Like the ship jokes, have the mods figured out the title mistake yet.  Yes they have.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Lurch on June 12, 2014, 06:54:37 AM
Quote from: persia;766270
It's a Kiwi website "fush n chops" and "sex" for six all the way.


A little stereo typical. ;-) We don't really talk about like that, most of the time we seem to get mistaken for being british which is odd.

However we have a local joke where Aussies say "sex" instead of "six" :-P
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: som99 on June 12, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lurch;766287
A little stereo typical. ;-) We don't really talk about like that, most of the time we seem to get mistaken for being british which is odd.

However we have a local joke where Aussies say "sex" instead of "six" :-P

And in Sweden "sex" is the real word for six and also the word for sex :P
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 12, 2014, 08:01:14 AM
It's a vowel thing.  The nuances of the vowel pronunciations (sounding) are learnt at a young age. Neither is right or wrong, just different.  Australian's (most) don't actually use the vowel soundings they learn as kids we "lazy tongue" them. "er" becomes "ah" at the end of words and the sounding for "i" changes based on what consonants it's between. eg: Hit(short i) a Six(ie sound).
I think I read somewhere that the NZ pronunciation of vowels was closer to 17th century English than English actually is now.  Dunno if it's true.
I certainly find it harder understanding the drawl from Nth QLD and NT than Kiwi. Ayee.(kiwi) or Ayee Mayte (Aussie)  :)
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: djrikki on June 12, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Well this is certainly interesting news on a Thursday morning... how about we replace Amiga.org entirely with AmigaOS.net, ditch the current forum with something which is mobile-responsive and change the 'Community' link at the top to simply enter the new forum.

*ducks for making a sensible as I see it suggestion*
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 12, 2014, 08:24:46 AM
Quote from: gertsy;766296
It's a vowel thing.  The nuances of the vowel pronunciations (sounding) are learnt at a young age. Neither is right or wrong, just different.  Australian's (most) don't actually use the vowel soundings they learn as kids we "lazy tongue" them. "er" becomes "ah" at the end of words and the sounding for "i" changes based on what consonants it's between. eg: Hit(short i) a Six(ie sound).
I think I read somewhere that the NZ pronunciation of vowels was closer to 17th century English than English actually is now.  Dunno if it's true.
I certainly find it harder understanding the drawl from Nth QLD and NT than Kiwi. Ayee.(kiwi) or Ayee Mayte (Aussie)  :)

I speak bogan with pride!
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 12, 2014, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Kesa;766298
I speak bogan with pride!


Clearly not Kesa, otherwise that would have been:
"I speak me bowgun with pryde Mate"  (:
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Akiko on June 12, 2014, 10:06:31 AM
@amigakit

I had asked the last two owners, but if you guys are ever overhauling the picture Gallery, can you please allow the CD32 and CDTV to have their own category so they are no longer mixed with the miscellaneous hardware.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: Kesa on June 12, 2014, 10:12:37 AM
Quote from: gertsy;766300
Clearly not Kesa, otherwise that would have been:
"I speak me bowgun with pryde Mate"  (:

Yeah, i guess you're right as usual :rolleyes:

We had a fun experience on the weekend with bogan's. We went camping at Wollemi national park and there were CUBS (cashed up bogan's) there with camper trailers blasting crap disco music all night keeping all the campers awake. Everytime people asked them to turn it down they got abused. They even chopped down green trees with chainsaws for firewood instead of using dead wood.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: danbeaver on June 12, 2014, 01:36:44 PM
? Off topic?
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: persia on June 13, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
But why don't we have regional accents like the poms and yanks?  Yes there are the far north folk, but basically a person from Perth has very little difference in speaking to someone from Sydney, Melbourne, or Brisbane.  I can tell the difference but it's more word choice than accent.

Quote from: gertsy;766296
It's a vowel thing.  The nuances of the vowel pronunciations (sounding) are learnt at a young age. Neither is right or wrong, just different.  Australian's (most) don't actually use the vowel soundings they learn as kids we "lazy tongue" them. "er" becomes "ah" at the end of words and the sounding for "i" changes based on what consonants it's between. eg: Hit(short i) a Six(ie sound).
I think I read somewhere that the NZ pronunciation of vowels was closer to 17th century English than English actually is now.  Dunno if it's true.
I certainly find it harder understanding the drawl from Nth QLD and NT than Kiwi. Ayee.(kiwi) or Ayee Mayte (Aussie)  :)
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: TrevorDick on June 13, 2014, 12:57:02 PM
@Persia

Off topic I know but no accents? All I can say is Kath & Kim and Sue & Pru! ;-)

TrevorD
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 16, 2014, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: TrevorDick;766438
@Persia

Off topic I know but no accents? All I can say is Kath & Kim and Sue & Pru! ;-)

TrevorD


I Know, I know, so troo Pru, so troo. For all intensive purposes they are pacifically hard to understand, with their pouts and kardonay. ;)
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: The_Editor on June 16, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
Just read the news on AUI's FB feed.

Congratulations.
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: persia on June 16, 2014, 11:52:04 AM
They're a bit of over the top Occa, it's not Victorian per se, even though it takes place in Victoria.  They could be in WA and still sound the same.

Quote from: TrevorDick;766438
@Persia

Off topic I know but no accents? All I can say is Kath & Kim and Sue & Pru! ;-)

TrevorD
Title: Re: Ownership of amiga.org?
Post by: gertsy on June 16, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
Quote from: persia;766848
They're a bit of over the top Occa, it's not Victorian per se, even though it takes place in Victoria.  They could be in WA and still sound the same.


I know its stylised humour but go to some of the specialist places in Chadstone shopping Centre or down Toorak Rd and you hear Sue and Pru.
And other places in Melbourne have Kim a plenty.  
From Frankston to Kew to Warrnambool the accents vary greatly.  The newer academic accent is another one, hybrid American / Australian mostly spoken by females, with "yaar" and "amm". But I get your point around the similarities per state.

The same goes for NZ, I notice a difference in the north island from the south or more specifically Wellington and Auckland vs Christchurch and Dunedin.

Just saying.