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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 20, 2010, 10:10:11 PM »
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As long as you don't need to do flippy disks, you can use any standard PC HD 5 1/4" drive, yes. However, if you are interested in C64 and Apple II disks, I guess you might want something that can do flippy disks? Yes, that may require a drive mod for many drives to step to -8. We are still researching what drives are best for doing it...

Thanx for the heads up.

I might eventually be interested in flilppy's, so I'll be watching what you get on there.  But I think I'll start shopping (trying to find some that still work) for HD drives now.  That way, I will have something I can use when your card is available.

I might be able to mod it if/when I need flippy's, or just get another modable (is that a word?) drive when that happens.  :-)

Great news...

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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2010, 10:48:01 PM »
Nice. Yes, we are hoping to get the hardware produced asap. You can of course get a development board like the ones we are using, and get going right now, but they are more expensive as they have stuff we don't use - hence why we got our own design done.
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2010, 10:50:01 PM »
Does it work in a DeLorean?
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2010, 10:52:21 PM »
MINI FAQ:

Q. Why is it free?
A. Because we are a non-profit preservation organisation, and our ultimate goal is not financial, but to save all these wonderful games before they are lost.

Q. Do I need a special drive?
A. No. Just a standard PC drive and floppy cable is required to dump any media for that drive.

Q. Does it work with 5 1/4" drives?
A. Yes. Check 1min 10secs into the YouTube trailer. :)

Q. Will it work on a laptop?
A. Yes. It uses standard USB. We have it running on an EeePC.

Q. Why can't I just use the floppy drive in my PC?
A. The floppy controller in the PC can only read the very strict format PC disks, and not very much of anything from other platforms. Not only that, but any copy protection on disks is hard to extract properly without a "low level" read - which you can't do through a PC's FDC. For various reasons, we would strongly argue that images of disks read through a PC floppy controller are unsuitable for preservation.

Q. Is it Windows only?
A. The software is currently in beta, and only runs on Windows (32 or 64-bit, Windows XP or greater). The source to the host software will be available after we go final, and we are then hoping to get it ported to as many platforms as possible. The code was written with portability in mind.

Q. Is it command-line only usage?
A. For the beta, yes. However, we are working on a graphical user interface which will likely be available when we go final.
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2010, 10:55:20 PM »
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Does it work in a DeLorean?


Unfortunately the DeLorean has a legacy communications bus that is not supported. However, there is a hack. Set your circuits to 1st January 2010, and give your flux capacitor a small whack. Hopefully, if things go to plan, your DeLorean should now have USB fitted within the glove compartment.
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2010, 11:12:42 PM »
:lol:
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2010, 11:18:44 PM »
On a serious note, I have to say, this seems like a great idea.
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2010, 08:38:15 PM »
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Do you mean actually use it as a normal floppy drive from an Amiga or emulator?
Or from a linux pc (typically a laptop) with affs support in kernel, for example. Or OS4/MorphOS/AROS etc.


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Interesting question. It was intended as a preservation tool, and we don't really have that kind of usage in mind, so I doubt we would work on it ourselves. However, the source to the host software will be available, and once we have added writing support, I can't really see any reason why it can't be done.


OK, so writing support in general is not implemented yet?

Anyways, cool project! :)
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2010, 09:05:34 PM »
Linux support is wanted by me too. :) I personally don't have a Windows machine at home.

No, writing is not implemented. Planned, but we decided to concentrate on the preservation aspects first.
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2010, 07:19:51 PM »
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Or from a linux pc (typically a laptop) with affs support in kernel, for example. Or OS4/MorphOS/AROS etc.

Speaking of possible or not: yes, it is. It somehow would need more hard work for a feature which is depreceated by us. You could easily damage or destroy a disk, just because most media is old. While we agree that it might be nice to be able to write back a whole disk (e.g. to restore a dead original disk), it does not really make sense to work "online" a real disk when you can have an image as well.

But again, this is possible. Please don't expect us to do this, because there are more important things to be done. :)
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2010, 09:55:00 AM »
====== KryoFlux Hardware ======

//2010-02-24//

We hear you! We have had an amazing response so far, and we have understood that many would love to buy a complete solution rather building it. Therefore we are pleased to announce that we have our first hardware partner to enable us to deliver quality KryoFlux products in the not-too-distant future. Their engineers have already started enhancing our reference design to include changes that were previously planned for a later release, like increasing stability when using older 5.25" drives and to enable the use of 8" drives.

There will be more details available on this in due course. Please note that we are NOT YET ready to take pre-orders, but please spread the word that we're making progress!

We would like to take this opportunity to point out that the preservation work we do is expensive. We are are a non-profit preservation organisation and we receive no income other than donations. We specialise in the development of preservation technology, most recently KryoFlux, and the preservation of digital objects, but we also have to maintain our infrastructure. In return, we hope to dramatically improve the quality and quantity of the preservation tools available, for the benefit of everyone. Our ultimate goal is to save all those wonderful old games before they are lost, so if you appreciate what we do, you can support our efforts by making a donation, here.

Every Euro, Pound or Dollar helps covering development costs and at the same time shows that we're not on our own. Many thanks to those who already donated, your help and encouragement is very much appreciated!
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2010, 05:29:03 PM »
Your KryoFlux is a great thing. Good work. ;)
 

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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2010, 06:24:14 PM »
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2010, 07:42:34 PM »
KryoFlux 1.0 Beta 4 is out...

http://www.softpres.org/news:2010-03-16
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Re: KryoFlux - High Definition Flux Sampler for USB
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2010, 05:42:40 PM »
Hi, there has been so much progress you have not seen since it was moved to a dedicated site & forums:

http://www.kryoflux.com

http://forum.kryoflux.com


It's working fine so far with many 3", 3.5" and 5.25" drives. More drives are under investigation.

We currently do have support for FM, MFM (this includes IBM PC, Atari ST and many others, including many musical instruments), AmigaDOS, C64, many Apple formats and Emulator I+II from E-MU Systems. More formats will be added.

One key feature is the option to do forensic dumps regardless of the format, so even alien formats can be read and archived and then processed later.

Writing does work, we have tested the hardware and can confirm it can write data to disk. We just have not finished this part of the software, because other features (ports, GUI) seemed more important and we all do work full time besides doing this.

The software, including a GUI, is available for Windows (and yes, we *do* support 64bit :p) and Linux, with a Mac port in production. The software is completely free for private, non-commercial use = the community gets it for free. Pro-users need to get a commercial licence for it. These will help to fund further development.

Here's a quick overview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjEPo2pRGjY

Basic (older) schematics are included with the software, and we plan to release the current schematics (which do use bus drivers) with the next release.

We also have pre-built boards available, so you don't have to etch your own boards and start soldering. Many people that originally intended to built their own decided to go for a ready-made product when they saw the pitch used here (the components are *really* small).

Anyway, if you want a board, you can get them here: http://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog

Cheers,
Chris
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