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Offline AJCopland

Re: does anyone own an electric car?
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:52:39 AM »
IMHO it's like swapping one form of pollution for another. Air pollution and CO2 emissions for a battery that is mined from the four corners of the world and is almost impossible to recycle! I wish all the little Greta Thunbergs would actually study science! Some times it makes more sense to burn some fossil fuel that is mined/drilled within national borders (not shipped across the world like Drax wood pellets) as long as you capture the carbon with UK technology now lost through cut grants by the Tories! 

Correction: The endeavour continue no thanks to David Cameron!
https://ukccsrc.ac.uk/ccs-explained/

A couple of points you might not be aware of.

The myth that EV's produce anywhere near as much pollution as ICE vehicles is ridiculous even in countries powered mostly by coal.
And the UK uses almost no coal anymore and will phase it out entirely by 2025.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07/electric-cars-have-much-lower-life-cycle-emissions-new-study-confirms/

Battery recycling is tricky but it's improving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpe8HalVXFU
Renault don't usually recycle their batteries they repurpose them for example: https://www.powervault.co.uk/article/powervault-and-renault-give-ev-batteries-a-second-life-in-smart-energy-deal/

CCS is Bull***t, the video is funny but sweary, and probably NSFW because of that -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSZgoFyuHC8
Short answer is that CCS is just another fossil fuel support project, like "Blue" hydrogen (made from oil/gas).

A lot of people with solar panels buy EVs, and a lot of people who buy EVs end up getting solar panels
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/11/23/how-many-ev-drivers-have-solar-power-in-usa-vs-europe/

As for the original EV question. Don't own one yet because I don't need a car (UK).
Did take my mates Tesla Model S around California for a week though, never once ran out, twice charged it at superchargers after long drives down the coast and into the hills.
Obviously that's a high-end car but it was amazing and of course they're everywhere there so no-one bats an eyelid at you.
I know people with EV's in the UK, Tesla Model 3, Renault Zoe, and Hyundia Kona, and they all love them.
Be Positive towards the Amiga community!
 

Offline AJCopland

Re: does anyone own an electric car?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 04:57:26 PM »
Enhanced Rock Weathering will also play its part for agriculture to convert carbon and capture it into the soil. Is that “bullshit” too? Liberal hipster attitudes and posh mates with EVs does not automatically make you all knowing on environmental or energy issues!

The "bullshit" was a quote from the video, which was about CCS and called it BS throughout, hence my explanation of it.
And yes, according to all of the data so far, it is BS.

That's a problem that needs to be solved, but it doesn't change the facts that all of the CCS projects so far have failed to meet their goals, been incredibly expensive, and have diverted effort and resources away from decarbonising the industries that they're supposed to be saving.

Also, don't be so rude.
The OP asked if anyone had driven one, there was the usual disinformation anf FUD from a bunch of posters, so I posted some links.

That doesn't make me liberal, a hipster, or ignorant.
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