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Offline TjLaZerTopic starter

Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« on: September 11, 2004, 04:47:45 AM »
Hey all I found this article and decided to try it and it works!  I converted a PC drive and it works on the Amiga!

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Here's how to convert a Chinon FZ-357 drive from PC to Amiga :)

Ok guys & gals, first an apology from me for telling {bleep} for some time now:
I always thought converting a Chinon FZ-357 drive from PC to Amiga was just a job of playing with the jumpers on the back of the drive. This worked fine for the drive I had, so I didn't notice that my drive in fact had already been converted !
But now I got another FZ-357 drive and was very surprised that it didn't work on an A-500 after I set the jumpers exactly like on my FZ-357 ?!? So, I disassembled both and discovered that it is also necessary to close one jumper ! Did this to the new drive, and now it works perfectly in an Amiga like the other one I had before

Ok, here is how to do it:

First, set the jumpers on the back:
You have to close DS0, MM, RDY and TTL/C-MOS
So there is one horizontal jumper in the lower row between pins 2 & 3, and 3 horizontal jumpers between upper and lower row on positions 4, 6 and 7.

Ok, this was the easy part, now you have to disasemble the drive:

First, take off the top cover of the drive by lifting it from the side of the drive. Then carefully pull off the front cover ( if there is one )
Now turn the drive upside down and unscrew 2 screws which fix the drive to the lower part of the case. After this, bend the lower case a little bit to the outside and remove the big spring which goes across the drive from left to right.

Now, very carefully take the drive out of the lower case. Take care not to loose the upper part of the drive !! Hold it down with one finger while removing the drive from it's case !

Once you have done this, turn the drive upside down and have a look on the board. About in the middle, there are 2 square dots marked with 'J2'.
Now, what you have to do is apply a solder blop to close this jumper. Be very careful the blop isn't too big because otherwise you will close some contacts you wouldn't want to be closed

Now, that's all
Build the drive back together ( fiddling the disk slot into the right place can take some time  ), hook it up to your Amiga like a Amiga drive and it will work 100% with all disks ! This modified drive will also work with NDOS disks and such that require a correct 'ready-signal'.

Now, rush to your local used PC dealer and grab all FZ-357 drives you can get for cheap. They might well become useful one day
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2004, 05:49:20 AM »
Thanks for the info!  Now I can stop destroying these Panasonic
JU-257's :-)
 

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2004, 06:05:24 AM »
It would be nice if you credited the original author and also original website this was posted on.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

Offline TjLaZerTopic starter

Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2004, 06:15:11 AM »
The original article came from the English Amiga board:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=9365

But he made a mistake and I corrected it. (MM not MD jumper)
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2004, 06:29:27 AM »
Here is a site on how to make some Chinons HD drives!  Lots of work though:

http://www.inf.mit.bme.hu/private/fz357/
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2004, 10:12:45 PM »
I just picked up like 6 of these drives, I will do the Amiga mod on them soon.  Anyone want to buy one?  
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2004, 10:18:08 PM »
On this link says you don't have to modify your drive to use:

http://www.freewebs.com/computolio/amiga%5Ffloppy%5Fcompatibility.html

 

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2004, 11:37:28 PM »
It did not work until I soldered a jumper on J2 and set the jumpers.  I guess the docs are wrong.  I just bought 6 more I will test to see if they work before I modify them!
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2004, 10:17:22 PM »
But...the Chinon FZ-357 is an Amiga 1760KB drive innit? Or is that just the Chinon FZ-357A?

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2004, 11:15:07 PM »
I have a question regarding this drive.  Will it line up with the a1200 cover and button hole when the front cover of the drive is removed?

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2004, 02:25:40 AM »
Hi everyone!
I actually dont understand why you are so excited?
Is it that hard to convert a PC drive to use in a amiga..?
I recently bought an Sony MDF-920 at my local store and had no problem to convert it to function in my amiga 600.
Just a little soldering job...
(Thanks also to orange for some help)
Amiga1260: the article you relate to says this drive cant be modified to use in a amiga..?
Ok, i havent tested it fully yet, but so far so good.
It works fine in workbench and NDOS games are no problem.
 

Offline TjLaZerTopic starter

Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2004, 02:28:52 AM »
@odin

No this drive is not the same the "A" is for Amiga computers only.

The big deal is that the Chinon drives can be used without hacking them.  9/10 of then even have the J2 connected!  All you do is move a few jumpers in the back.  These drives also fit in the A3000 series perfectly.  Not sure in the A500/600/1200. Have not tried.  Anyone here done that?  I can test it out and get back to you guys if not...
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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2004, 05:56:38 AM »
And additionally: we're excited because some of these Chinons can be hacked to provide half speed HD rotation!

You can't do that to a normal "run of the mill" PC drive.
 

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2004, 09:38:44 AM »
I try a Chinon FZ-357 in an A1200 and it works. But now I have a little problem, I see PC0:???? df0:???? every time when it boots in Workbench.

See it on this topic:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11920

Maybe I had bad luck.
 

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Re: Converting Chinon FZ-357 1.44 PC drive to Amiga 880k!
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2004, 11:53:21 AM »
TjLaZer and Jope: ok, thanks for explaining that to me.
Amiga1260: Maybe you have set the ready signal (pin 34) to ground?
Make sure you have your drive set up like this:
pin 2 = disk change
pin 34 = Ready
and change the disk select from select 1 to select 0.
Then your drive should work fine with your amiga.