Updated Alien Breed 3D 2

[Karlos]

For those that aren't aware of it, pipper on EAB has gotten the AB3D2 source code into a buildable state. I remember trying this over 20 years ago and remember it being a real pain in the rear.

Please see the original thread on EAB here https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=111090

[utri007]

great! hopefully this allows faster and more stable exes and maybe one day 1x1 AB3D

[BozzerBigD]

...and maybe one day 1x1 AB3D

Too late! We already have Project Osiris! Link = https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67666

[utri007]

that doesn't work with Amigas. It requires PC.

[BozzerBigD]

So what? It remasters AB3D perfectly. Zool, Superfrog and now Alien Breed 3D; none of these remakes work on the Amiga!

[utri007]

This is forum for a Amiga hobby, so is reasonable to think that people want to do "things" with real gear.

So possible remastered AB3D for Amiga is nice news and maybe parts of Osiris could be used to make it happen.

[Gryfon]

So what?  Good grief what we have to plow through on these forums these days. I’m not wanting to run it on a PeeCee.  This is an -Amiga- forum, that’s great the whole point. 

That’s what.

So what? It remasters AB3D perfectly. Zool, Superfrog and now Alien Breed 3D; none of these remakes work on the Amiga!
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[Karlos]

maybe one day 1x1 AB3D

I think you are out of luck there. AB3D renders 12-bit RGB directly, relying on the peculiarities of it's chunky copper screen. Only an RTG version using an RGB display mode is going to reproduce it properly at higher resolution.

[BozzerBigD]

@Gryfon

The comment was...

...and maybe one day 1x1 AB3D

I assume that would involve porting the AB3D levels into an upgraded AB3D2 engine. I am asking what the point of that would be when we can play Project Osiris today? Why not port Project Osiris to AmigaNG systems instead?

[Karlos]

@BigD

Nope. If you want 1x1 AB3D, and you want it to look correct, you need to use RGB. The original game doesn't use C2P and uses 12-bit RGB. Your closest match is 15-bit RGB on a graphics card. If you can also generate the extra 1 bit of precision per channel, it would look pretty nice.
 

[BozzerBigD]

Yes, we all know AB3D was a special case with its screenmode however AB3D2 looked more standard and there was even an RTG patch that might be cleaned up and enhanced now! Therefore, as I said the suggestion seems to be to  port the first games level to the second games 'fixed and enhanced' engine!

My statement is "great but why not just port Project Osiris to AmigaNG?"

[Karlos]

@BigD

Perhaps because not everyone that wishes for an improved AB3D experience has, or wants, an NG system.

[Karlos]

My interest in AB3D2 is on the RTG side actually. One thing I am keen to investigate is whether or not it can be adapted to render directly to an RGB display without the reduction to 256 step. Given all the shading and lighting effects the game uses, it doesn't seem an unreasonable objective.

[BozzerBigD]

@Karlos

Perhaps because not everyone that wishes for an improved AB3D experience has, or wants, an NG system.

Well that seems the best way to port an updated version on an 'Amiga'. The source code recompile is for AB3D2 not the first game so it would involve reimplementing the first game's levels in the AB3D2 engine! That has already been achieved with Project Osiris so port it to AmigaNG or play it on the PC. Alternatively, the original is included bundled with THE500 Amiga with save states and the intro music missing from the original release! Is that a substantial enough 'upgrade' for you? 

[utri007]

I would like to have AB3D II - TKG for NG systems and for more reliable 68k port. I'm interested both.

Is it possible to compile it to OS4 with current sources?