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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« on: September 30, 2018, 05:03:19 PM »
If Hyperion wins, Cloanto will most lilely throw their hands up and leave the Amiga. Instead Hyperion will get all rights to everything Amiga and take it all with them to the grave. Cloanto at least shown that they can stay in business doing Amiga stuff, Hyperion do exactly nothing to stay alive as a business.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 06:26:45 AM »
I have seen posted the Hyperion 3.1.4 improvement

Have you really? So far, only a small fraction of the improvements have been "leaked", the real changelogs are kept internal, because that is how closed source AmigaOS development rolls - end-users only get dumbed down info on a need to know basis.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Amiga
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2018, 07:11:46 AM »
Just to understand your motives, you are the same person in Australia who accused Cloanto of shutting down a piracy server of yours many years ago, when it wasn't even them who did it (it turned out it was Jan from AmiKit)? That must have been quite embarrassing.

No, this is the person who maintain and distribute BoingBag 3+4 with everyone's agreement, and who have signed NDA with AEON. So a totally different person, and not this renegade you describe :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2018, 11:39:50 AM »
I have seen the 3.1.4 source code

Noted, for future references :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2018, 11:50:53 AM »
Just a funny side remark: Cloanto should really update their statement on MP3. MP3 patents run out last year.

Another funny side remark - you seem incapable of grasping the concept of "past tense" in English language - the text by Cloanto says "was", "were", "at the time" etc.
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And, just another interesting remark: I *am* actually working for Fraunhofer Institute für Integrierte Schaltungen. Yes, the MP3 guys, execept that I'm not working on MP3.
Right, so maybe you can talk with Gunnar about "DVD Quality" mpeg1 video.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2018, 11:56:46 AM »
I'm sick and tired on those law suits. I(we!) put money to pockets and then they go to court to fight. Idiots.

Well, as I see it, it is a good thing that all money goes to the only ones who actually do a decent honest job here - the lawyers.
And I am very happy to see that all the involved developers, testers, and everyone else who have signed NDAs, have "seen the source code" etc, all agree, that the only ones who deserve payment, are the lawyers.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2018, 12:30:50 PM »
Which means that, for that very reason, there is no need to exclude such components, thus why I noted.
But there _was_ a need. Not like Cloanto are the only ones not in a hurry to "bring back" mp3 support.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
There was never any need to remove parts of OS3.9 and turn it into crippleware; no legal action was ever brought against H&P, just Cloanto's FUD.

Anyway I don't know what their latest excuse is since those patents are expired anyway and yet OS3.X is still crippled.

Ask ThoR here what would have happened if Cloanto had included MP3 and all the goodies from OS3.9 into AmigaForever?
Heck, ask ThoR why OS 3.1.4 cannot include Reaction??

And ... still crippled? How would you know, have you bought it?
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion vs Cloanto
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 11:09:35 AM »
How dare they, parasites, leeches...  ::)
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