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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« on: February 29, 2004, 03:37:23 AM »
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Well, at least now we know what happened to Garry Hare :-)

I wonder if he was a Genesi employee at the time he was passing out those business cards...


You think he was working for genesi and Amiga at the same time?  :-o
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2004, 04:46:24 AM »
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No, I was just pondering the possibility that he was working for Genesi and only claiming to have deposed Bill McEwen.  I remember Bill Buck making a big deal of it at the time, saying how it was "old news" and he thought everyone knew about it.  All this, of course, at a time when McEwen was keeping out of sight because of an alleged threat to his family.  It would have been an easy thing to hire someone to pass fake business cards around, and create rumours that could later be exploited.


Fleecy already confirmed Garry Hare was working for Amiga though. He said Garry was there at the request of the investors.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004, 06:06:54 AM »
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by Wayne on 2004/3/15 23:19:12

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To ALL OF THOSE OUT THERE who have called me a liar for over a year now regarding Garry Hare, I would hope that you have the balls to offer an apology.


If they didn't apologize for calling you all sorts of things when you said OS4 would not be released in 2003, why do you think they would do it now?  Please, they are not that type of people. :\

Dammy



You're right.

Now we know why Amiga were ignoring all requests for licensing of Amiga IP too... they didn't own it anymore.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2004, 07:17:00 AM »
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You're right.

Now we know why Amiga were ignoring all requests for licensing of Amiga IP too... they didn't own it anymore.


But they are claiming to own it in depositions for the court system, which is where this is going to get interesting for McEwen, also they sold their only real asset while the debters  are trying to collect their money and the company is insolvent, thats probably not going to stand up in the courts.
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Just when things were getting boring, they get interesting again  :-P
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2004, 02:22:01 AM »
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It seems funny to me how this is the only business card of Garry Hare that is in existence. I have heard of no other person claiming they have a copy of his business card!

So my question to you then is why he would get business cards printed and potentially only give out 1!


If you search Ann.lu, there are at least 5 people who've recieved them at shows, and even more who've seen them second-hand. Garry Hare was pretty active going to these tradeshows.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 02:24:25 AM »
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I also find it hilarious that, in the court documents, it says that KMOS owns the rights to source including 3.9 when Amiga Inc didn't even have the source to give to Hyperion.


Well... AFAIK the IP belongs to Amiga Inc., AFAIK H&P owes royalties to Amiga Inc...


From what I understand, H&P own the code, and had a "buy back" clause that would let Amiga inc buy back the code, and H&P claim that Amiga Inc failed to buy it back.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2004, 02:28:55 AM »
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Is it possible that KMOS is Amiga Inc.

I know nothing about these things so just let me rant for a second.

Where there any predators who stood to benifit from the demise of Amiga Inc?

Would it have made sense to sell the rights (to Amiga's only asset) to a small holding set-up by Amiga Inc themselves.

While we are all tossing around conspiracy theories, would this one hold any water?


Actually, I believe that's exactly what happened. Itec/KMOS IMO are simply shells being used by those in power at Amiga Inc to hide assets from predators.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2004, 04:23:43 AM »
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@T_Bone:

Fair enough, but that theory sidesteps one important question: where did Amiga, Inc get the money to pay its lawyers?  If KMOS was just a PO Box somewhere, AInc would still only have $100 in the bank (minus whatever the PO Box cost :-P)

Unless lawyers are a lot cheaper now than they were just a few months ago, the theory that KMOS is a fabrication by Bill&Fleecy doesn't look too solid.


Not a fabrication "by" Bill and Fleecy, a fabrication "including" Bill and Fleecy. Obviously the investors are involved, given Garry Hare's involvement (remember Fleecy saying Garry was originally involved by the request of the investors?) and most likely the investors fronted the legal fees.
... however the investors havent sunk any more money into Amiga inc as then it would have to be used to pay past judgements first, as the court has ordered.

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2004, 05:28:46 AM »
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What really amuses me is that so many people claim Fleecy is full of {bleep}, that nothing he says can be trustesd and is all a pack of lies, yet these same people use what Fleecy says in thier arguments as well when what he says suits them.


Well isn't that par for the course? Often fibbers will find their words used against them.
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