NetSurf 3.4 released!

[wawrzon]

I was thinking of redirecting the shell messages to HD - but then the system would crash in the middle of the writing process, which might kill my HD.
Obviously I do not want to risk that!

you might launch a resetfest RAD: and redirect the output to a file there.

[chris]

I will try building a plain 68000 binary when I get chance.  Pretty sure that's the issue here.

[utri007]

Artur makes a great job offering something at all... there are not many coders left you know, bashing the few remaining ones is not very helpful. I could also say Chris version is useless because based on reaction that was only available on 3.5/3.9. Many people use more plain systems and do not want to install 3.9

With all respect to you. I disagree about bashing, there is no bashing. There is a critisim and opinions. You have all there rights say so, I woun't mind and I'm prety sure that Chris wouldn't either. You see there are different point of views and they are all equal. Your point is based to facts, that is always OK, but that would be  just yours and some other people point of view.

About a Wawrzon's opinion about this. I woun't change record, but I have listen to him. I do try to remember say not just crisisim, but also say something positive. Like Arthur's fork works very nicely with UAE, surpricingly fast. I have had very bad luck with those build with real Amiga, they are unuseable and behave very "unamigish way".

[utri007]

I was thinking of redirecting the shell messages to HD - but then the system would crash in the middle of the writing process, which might kill my HD.
Obviously I do not want to risk that!

I have forwared logs to HD.

Is it just Netsurf -V >DH1:netsurf_log.txt ?? or do I remember wrong?

My system partition uses ffs, but others use pfs or sfs. No problems with those.

I think that it woun't kill you hard drive, maybe it will validate it but there is no ffs problem without cure.

What kind of hardware you are using? Cyberstorm with what graphicscard and rtg software?

Do you have any patches running from startup-sequence? Like TLSF? You are using Amiga OS3.9 with BB1&2?

[chris]

Dandy, please try the version I've just uploaded: http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

[Dandy]

I have forwared logs to HD.

Is it just Netsurf -V >DH1:netsurf_log.txt ?? or do I remember wrong?

My system partition uses ffs, but others use pfs or sfs. No problems with those.

I think that it woun't kill you hard drive, maybe it will validate it but there is no ffs problem without cure.

Ok - will try that next week.
Currently I'm spend my weekend at my "main home". My Amigas are in my apartment in Cologne, where I stay during the week, when I'm working.
This is the fate of a commuter...

B.t.w. - I use registered version of PFS3 on System3.9 and FFS on the other partitions, IIRC.

What kind of hardware you are using? Cyberstorm with what graphicscard and rtg software?

I use a Voodoo 4 with Picasso 96 in my Mediator (in Zorro III, with Buster 11) in my towered A4k with CSPPC (MC68060@50mHz/PPC604e@200mHz; 128 mB ram), OS 3.9 with BBs 1 & 2/WarpOS 16.1.
Furthermore:
Terratec 512i digital soundcard, 10/100 mBit NIC in Mediator PCI busboard.
Deneb USB 2.0 highspeed in Zorro III.
CD-Rom, CD-Ram, DVD-Ram. tapestreamer and scanner on the UW-SCSI.
2 HD floppydrives.

Do you have any patches running from startup-sequence? Like TLSF?

Not that I knew...will have to check...
What is TLSF, btw?

You are using Amiga OS3.9 with BB1&2?

Yessir!

[Dandy]

Dandy, please try the version I've just uploaded: http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

Ok - will download and try it when I'm back in Cologne tomorrow night!
Is this build compiled for plain 68000?
As I use 68060...

[Dandy]

Regarding the "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" in your signature - we have a similar saying here in Germany:
"The impossible we do at once, miracles take nine months..."
:biglaugh:

[utri007]

What is TLSF, btw?

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47129

Build for 68000 would be interesting for minimig users. OS3.5/9 Requires 68020, but it is possible get it running with plain 680000

[chris]

Ok - will download and try it when I'm back in Cologne tomorrow night!
Is this build compiled for plain 68000?
As I use 68060...

Yes. Keep hold of the previous one in case that's not the problem.

Regarding the "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" in your signature - we have a similar saying here in Germany:
"The impossible we do at once, miracles take nine months..."
:biglaugh:

[Dandy]

you might launch a resetfest RAD: and redirect the output to a file there.

Ummm - the last time I set up a RAD: is ages ago. It was back in my A500 days (pre 1998)...
It seems I have forgotten something about RAD:.
I looked in my OS 3.9 book, but could not find anything regarding RAD:.
Then I looked in my OS 3.1 books and copied RAD and RAD.info from "storage:dosdrivers" to "devs:dosdrivers", as described there.
I rebooted, but no RAD:.
I also double-clicked the RAD.info - but all I got was a system crash.
RAD version is 40.1.
What am I doing wrong?

[Dandy]

...
Do you have any patches running from startup-sequence? Like TLSF?
...

Just checked it - no.

[Dandy]

Dandy, please try the version I've just uploaded: http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

Just tried it - it also crashes.
Will try it now from shell with -v option...

EDIT:
Starting from shell with -v also freezes my system.
Now I hope someone can enlighten me how to get my RAD running...

[chris]

Just tried it - it also crashes.
Will try it now from shell with -v option...

EDIT:
Starting from shell with -v also freezes my system.
Now I hope someone can enlighten me how to get my RAD running...

Do you get any output before it freezes?

[Dandy]

Do you get any output before it freezes?

In the shell - yes.
But as the system freezes (mouse pointer not movable) I have to make a reset - and all is gone.
So I have to redirect the output to a RAD: - then I can copy the output from there after the reboot.

[wawrzon]

In the shell - yes.
But as the system freezes (mouse pointer not movable) I have to make a reset - and all is gone.
So I have to redirect the output to a RAD: - then I can copy the output from there after the reboot.

for the time being, you might look what is the latest entry in your deubug log at least and post it here.

what concerns RAD, yes copying to devs and double clicking should activate it afair. maybe there is something wrong with the mount list.. simply google after questions you have, usually they have been asked before.

another solution is to have a spare small partition on your drive that doesnt contain essential stuff, in order to redirect the output there. or redirect the output to serial device, and caught it with another computer, but that is probably too complicated for you.