NetSurf 3.4 released!

[utri007]

Chris: Test build is still unavaillable.

Dandy: Test build is quite much faster than aminet build, but it requires guicfx and render libraries from aminet. It has color problems with AGA

RTG systems you need to edit user/choises file manually and add friend_bitmap:1 to get colors displayed correctly.

Problem with both builds is memory fragmention / memory leak wich slows down surfing after few pages.

Generally saying, it is fast amiga.org is displayed less than 20 seconds.

[utri007]

You need to rename those libraries. Remove _68060 from end.

New version :

http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

Didn't you use installer?

[utri007]

Ummm - which installer?
There was no installer included in the 3.6 dev Archive.
All there was was the instruction in the readme to copy all the content from the archive's ENV: Folder to Envarc: and the advice to edit a file (that I'm unable to locate in the achive) manually for the use with graphics cards.
No information on how to install NetSurf.

You have tested Arhurs fork, wich is based Framebuffer / SDL / version of  Netsurf, wich is meant to be used to debuggin and with no GUI systems ie. DOS. It uses ixemul libraries etc. It is hevily modified and original Netsurf team has asked that could it be renamed to something else than Netsurf. It works nicely with emulators.

Chris version is targeted to real Amigas.

[utri007]

@utri

could you stop bashing arturs work on each and every occasion just because you are involved with another option? it really doesnt make one want to help with it.

No bashing, everything I said is true. You are too sensitive with this. Arthurs fork works very nicely with emulators.

I'm not involved Netsurf any way, my opinion is just what I have read and based experience with both versions. Even very early versions of Chirs port feels much more "amigish", than arthur's version. Arthur's version locks Computer for long time, wich hasn't happened ever with Chris version. With emulator Arthur's version fast as wind, no problems at all. Memory requirements of Arthur version are now decreased, wich is good, but it is still unuseable with 32mb ram. I could make a Chris version to start with 16mb ram, but it would be unuseable.

[utri007]

simply dont let it sound like a broken record.

Problem is that there is certain confusion now and then, you have followed prety much every thread about this. Seems that Dandy is't.

[utri007]

Dandy: Arthur's fork has GUI, he made one for it. I ques thats why Netsurf team is not so keen about it. It is hevily modied to different product. It doesn't have MUI gui, just custom build GUI. How ever it has a MUI gui for preferences window.

About Chris' Netsurf it doens't have any fiddling. Download it and install it. Only thing is those render and guigfx libraries to sys:libs. It uses standard amiga intuition so just one version for all systems. Minium AGA or RTG

Known problems :

-Tabs are unstable and closing them most likely crash browser.
-Iconify button doesn't work.
-Memory framention / leak. Slow down effect after few pages. Some simplier sites works like charm like http://amigahistory.co.uk/
-AGA has color problems at least with some jpg images.
-Reaction GUI doesn't always refresh.

[utri007]

Where / wich version you downloaded?

run netsurf from shell netsurf -V forward log to somewhere so that you can send it to Chris.

[utri007]

Artur makes a great job offering something at all... there are not many coders left you know, bashing the few remaining ones is not very helpful. I could also say Chris version is useless because based on reaction that was only available on 3.5/3.9. Many people use more plain systems and do not want to install 3.9

With all respect to you. I disagree about bashing, there is no bashing. There is a critisim and opinions. You have all there rights say so, I woun't mind and I'm prety sure that Chris wouldn't either. You see there are different point of views and they are all equal. Your point is based to facts, that is always OK, but that would be  just yours and some other people point of view.

About a Wawrzon's opinion about this. I woun't change record, but I have listen to him. I do try to remember say not just crisisim, but also say something positive. Like Arthur's fork works very nicely with UAE, surpricingly fast. I have had very bad luck with those build with real Amiga, they are unuseable and behave very "unamigish way".

[utri007]

I was thinking of redirecting the shell messages to HD - but then the system would crash in the middle of the writing process, which might kill my HD.
Obviously I do not want to risk that!

I have forwared logs to HD.

Is it just Netsurf -V >DH1:netsurf_log.txt ?? or do I remember wrong?

My system partition uses ffs, but others use pfs or sfs. No problems with those.

I think that it woun't kill you hard drive, maybe it will validate it but there is no ffs problem without cure.

What kind of hardware you are using? Cyberstorm with what graphicscard and rtg software?

Do you have any patches running from startup-sequence? Like TLSF? You are using Amiga OS3.9 with BB1&2?

[utri007]

What is TLSF, btw?

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47129

Build for 68000 would be interesting for minimig users. OS3.5/9 Requires 68020, but it is possible get it running with plain 680000

[utri007]

In the shell - yes.
But as the system freezes (mouse pointer not movable) I have to make a reset - and all is gone.
So I have to redirect the output to a RAD: - then I can copy the output from there after the reboot.

Try statram from aminet.

[utri007]

Any ideas, anyone?

I think that you should reinstall Boing Bags 1 & 2. You should propably skip romupdates of BB2.

There is issues with you OS install wich should solved before.

You don't have loadmodule command in you startup-sequence?

[utri007]

Might be obvious / stubid question, but did you run fixfonts with installer?

[utri007]

Netsurf installer asks "do you want to run fixfonts"

[utri007]

I don't know how to help you.

I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?

Does AWeb work? It also uses reaction. Could it be a font problem?

When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz