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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 12, 2003, 03:15:03 AM »
@Kees:

Who said 1998? Commodore.nl has been around since 1996 with the same message since around 2000. :-)

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   Domain name:
      commodore.nl (first domain)

   Status: active

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      Tulip Computers International B.V.
      Burgemeester Burgerslaan 40
      5245 NH  ROSMALEN
      Netherlands

   Domicile:
      N/A

   Committed to ADR: no

   Administrative contact:
      W. Nijholt
      +31 73 6405124
      postmaster@commodore.nl

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      KPN Telecom B.V. Operator Vaste Net
      Regulusweg 1
      2516 AC  'S-GRAVENHAGE
      Netherlands

   Technical contact:
      W. Nijholt
      +31 73 6405124
      wnijholt@tulipcomputers.com

   Domain nameservers:
      dns1.tulip.com       194.151.54.10
      dns2.tulip.com       194.151.54.20

   Date first registered: 16-04-1996
   Record last updated: 20-06-2000
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2003, 03:27:56 AM »
From the sounds of things, this "reviving the Commodore 64" sounds more like a PC with a software emulator. Kinda like the WebIT.
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2003, 05:47:13 AM »
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The computer won't be laucned in its current shape. Ironstone will produce software for Tulip that will allow its excisting computers to be redesigned as a commodore.


AAARGH, a commercial emulator probably with a hefty price tag.

Make sure you download a recent copy of your favorite C64 emulator soon and make sure you have a real machine handy for legal reasons. :-x
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2003, 05:57:12 AM »
Redrum, you might have to change your avatar... there's some serious copyright infringement going on right there  :-P

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2003, 07:47:35 AM »
I rather like to buy C= One and not some PC/Emulator crap ;)
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2003, 08:48:16 AM »
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The roughly 300 commercial website that use the Commodore name will be delt with.


What dows that mean exactly? If they also close the abandonware sites then I only see a company that wants to hangout the dictator and destoy that community.
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2003, 09:34:29 AM »
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Sure, there is about 5000 through out the US, Canada and South America. Added to the other users around the world, that must bring the total to about....... 5600
You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about here, the bulk of Amiga users has always been (and I believe it still is) in Europe.
In the late 80's and early 90's *everyone* i know (that were into computers) had Amigas, and any flea market you go to in my country usually turns up a couple of A500 or A1200's.
AFAIK, the Amiga was never really that big in America due to ... feck, i don't know why ...

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2003, 10:44:31 AM »
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More info would be nice in what exactly they mean, A C64 design for 2003? (not good for CommodoreOne) or just relaunching the classic in it's original form? (seems silly)


Isn't the C=1 between those two?  More powerfull and configurable than a C64, but not modern enough to be a primary computer for 2003?

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Who said 1998? Commodore.nl has been around since 1996 with the same message since around 2000


I had a quick look on the Wayback machine, and the current site has been exactly the same since 2001 :-)

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2003, 11:43:00 AM »
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5000 worldwide is just ridiculous... I would say 5000 maybe in Sweden where I'm from.


Would you like to back that up with some facts?  Mine was only a guess, partly based on the ~1000 coupon purchasers, and based on the belief that most active Amiga users wouldn't upgrade until the new platform had matured a bit (ie. by the second new hardware and OS release).  It is pointless to keep saying that everyones' figures are ridiculous/wrong/way off when there's still no concrete information to base the argument on.
 

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2003, 12:11:29 PM »
This is OLD news - Tulip talked about this before and Escom before them (and look what happened to them).

6 million active C64 users - come on, no one takes that figure seriously do they?

Tulip - thought they went bust and took the commodore name with them?
 

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2003, 02:32:09 PM »
I'd only guess 5000 - 10000 left also. I used to be much more optimistic, but in my eyes things have erroded to nothing. Actually I would put hard active users at under 3000, and soft(still some interest) users at somewhere about 10000.

Anyhow this is OT, any further lets move to the forum :-)
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2003, 03:27:16 PM »
CommodoreONE what will they call it if the cannot use the commodore name, myself i would just call it the kommodore one.
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2003, 03:41:40 PM »
Well this is definitely an interesting announcement.  I remember one of my best friends had a C64 and I use to borrow it and would go through those simple programming books to (which would take almost hour or more to write just to get five minutes of WOW time :-D

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2003, 05:03:46 PM »
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I'd guess that there's about 5000 active Amiga users around now,

Way to small number.. I know localtv channels/info channels and even airports that still use them with scala  for their infoboxes.. I was damn suprised when i noticed an amiga guru meditation on those big screen tvs at airport a little while ago  ;-)
 

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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2003, 08:04:30 PM »
Amiga.org has over 7000 members ... and that was 8 weeks ago or something
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Re: Tulip to Bring Back Commodore
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2003, 04:02:03 AM »
Since you don't need to be a member in order to read the threads, that figure doesn't include all the lurkers.  Maybe the 10K user figure isn't so far off the mark.

Of course, a different question altogether is "how many of us are still using amiga hardware?"  In my case, I have a PC at home that I only use for web browsing and an accelerated A1200 that gets used once or twice a week to play classics like Syndicate or Beneath a Steel Sky.  PC games suck these days... all 3D eyecandy and no gameplay.  I really hope the next generation of amiga games writers won't fall for the same trap.