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Title: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: persia on January 09, 2014, 02:25:29 PM
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Las Vegas: Could gaze be the way we interact with our computers in the future?
Tobii Technology, which recently announced a partnership with gaming accessories company SteelSeries, believes so. At the Consumer Electronics Show this week, Tobii unveiled its EyeX Dev Kit, that will allow third-party developers to "gaze-enable" their video games for when SteelSeries releases a consumer device using Tobii's eye-tracking hardware later this year.

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The technology lets users gaze at a desktop computer, tablet or laptop and use eye movements to play a game or interact with applications on Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system. The device sends a pattern of infrared light to the user's eyes and tracks its reflections. Unlike pointing a laser at your eye, it doesn't hurt.

Speaking during a demonstration of the eye tracking technology, Peter Tiberg, strategic business development manager at Tobii, said the device would be released in the US summer. No launch for Australia has been announced.
The technology provides "similar precision as touch", Tiberg said. "If you can hit a link or an object with your finger on the screen, you can also hit it with your eyes.

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There are really no limitations to the possibilities."
The technology is a descendant of a 2001 research project at Stockholm University, first conducted by Tobii's founders. It has been exhibited at the CES for a number of years but has never been available to buy.
When it launches, the company hoped there will be around 100 gaze-enabled applications for Windows operating system, its focus for now.
Tobii showed off a number of prototype devices at the show, including a Samsung Series 900 laptop and a desktop display unit.
"We are hoping that all kinds of gaming companies and developers will start developing content for it just like when touch came [along]. In the beginning there weren't so [many apps] but now [almost] everything is touch-enabled."
When using a prototype Tobii, I was able to open a mapping application on a Windows 8 laptop using my eyes and a button click. I was then able to zoom in to my street address from afar.
I also tried the eye-tracking technology while playing Starcraft. It let me move characters on the screen by selecting them with a mouse and then directing them to their new positions with my eyes.
The technology is surprisingly accurate and simple to use. To get started, you need a less-than-1-minute calibration test, and tell the software your name and whether you wear contact lenses.
The calibration is done to create a model of your eyes, which is used by the device to track them, and involves a small dot moving around the screen at intervals.
"Touch is fine once in a while, but to sit and work with your hands on a vertical surface is pretty tedious for your muscle and for your arms," Tiberg said. "This is actually a perfect environment when you can use your eyes."
The EyeX Dev Kit will ship in March for $US95.

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Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: commodorejohn on January 09, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Spending any significant length of time trying to precisely position your gaze is a recipe for eyestrain.

But hey, guess we need another dumb, counterproductive gimmick interface for futurists to wank to!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on January 09, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;756700
Spending any significant length of time trying to precisely position your gaze is a recipe for eyestrain.

But hey, guess we need another dumb, counterproductive gimmick interface for futurists to wank to!


It might work as mouse-assistant, for, say, focusing on different windows :)
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 09, 2014, 08:14:31 PM
I would choose this over a touchscreen if only because I'm OCD and hate those damned finger-smudges on monitors. ;)   :destroy:
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Iggy on January 09, 2014, 08:24:58 PM
And I'll be keeping my mouse, thank you.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Crumb on January 09, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
@persia

a new world of multi-monitor pleasure for cross-eyed people!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: zylesea on January 09, 2014, 11:57:48 PM
No, thanks. My gazing at the monitor is definitely not identical to my mouse movements.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: ajlwalker on January 09, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: Crumb;756729
@persia

a new world of multi-monitor pleasure for cross-eyed people!


Now THAT made me laugh!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Iggy on January 10, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
Quote from: zylesea;756730
No, thanks. My gazing at the monitor is definitely not identical to my mouse movements.


'But boss, I've got the crystal ball!' Frank Zappa Cosmic Debris
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: persia on January 10, 2014, 03:43:30 AM
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Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Tygre on January 10, 2014, 03:51:07 AM
Hi there!

For my research lab., I bought few years back a EyeLink II from SRResearch (http://www.sr-research.com/eyelinkII.html) and more recently a FaceLab 5 from Seeing Machines (http://www.seeingmachines.com/product/facelab/). Although they are great, especially the more recent FaceLab, they still require some calibration and getting used to... plus what we look is not what we click!

Cheers!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: gertsy on January 10, 2014, 05:53:13 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;756700
Spending any significant length of time trying to precisely position your gaze is a recipe for eyestrain.
!


Isn't that just  your eyes do instantly? Reading for instance.
The challenge will be blinking, incidental movement and how you click.
Think of the possibilities for less able people. It will be a godsend.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Astral on January 10, 2014, 10:13:23 AM
As is the case with the mouse, joystick, touch type devices, voice recognition and so on...this eye thing will have it's place - that is to say it will suit some applications and not others. And, part of it's success would of course depend on configurability, integratability and so on.

Future trend predictions can be hard...but I don't think it will be "massively popular".

I'm with Gertsy on this one - for challenged people this most certainly will have it's place. It would probably also be useful in applications where hand movements are used for other functions - and so a "normal" device can't be used.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Tygre on January 10, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
@gertsy

Actually, our eyes move constantly (or almost) and their movements can be divided between saccades and fixations, based on physiological thresholds. For most people, a saccades is an eye movements under 200 ms, above that threshold it is considered a fixation: the moment during which the light is captured by the eyes and a signal transfered to the brain. The Soviets even did funny experiments in their time, gluing micro-projectors on people eyes...

@Astral

Eye-tracking has many, many useful applications in lots of domains, regaring people with impairment, look at what it can do for Stephen Hawking: http://iq.intel.com/iq/26909838/how-intel-helps-stephen-hawking-communicate-with-the-world

Cheers!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: commodorejohn on January 10, 2014, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: persia;756739
(http://www2.needham.k12.ma.us/nhs/cur/Baker_00/baker_1800_soc/baker_br_rb_p4/new_luddite.jpg)
I like how, in persia-land, calling out stupid technology for being stupid equals being blanketly opposed to all technology. That's definitely how that works. Guess there sure are a lot of Luddites around in that case...you know, like all the people who didn't buy 3D TVs that the industry wanted them to buy, who passed on Windows 8 which Microsoft wanted them to buy, who gave the finger to the original XBone and its draconian infringements of customer rights that Microsoft wanted them to buy into, and so on and so forth. Shame on them, the horrible, horrible Luddites! Don't they understand that any new technology is granted to mortals by the Tech Gods and must be slavishly tongued in appreciation?

Quote from: gertsy;756746
Isn't that just  your eyes do instantly? Reading for instance.
The challenge will be blinking, incidental movement and how you click.
Think of the possibilities for less able people. It will be a godsend.
Your eyes move pretty much constantly; the hard part is keeping them fixed in a specific direction when they reflexively want to move. Try directing your gaze around the corners of your field of vision for a few minutes, and see how long it takes you to start getting a headache.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 10, 2014, 06:26:05 PM
I wonder if Stephen Hawking would be able to use this?  Hook it up to Say on his Amiga and he'll have a whole new world of communication tools available to him!  :D
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Astral on January 10, 2014, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tygre;756778


Eye-tracking has many, many useful applications in lots of domains, regaring people with impairment


Couldn't agree more. I was thinking the kind of thing...people who are less-abled in regards to physical movement...quadraplegics, rehabilitation patients...
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Tygre on January 12, 2014, 05:19:10 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;756800
I wonder if Stephen Hawking would be able to use this?  Hook it up to Say on his Amiga and he'll have a whole new world of communication tools available to him!  :D


It definitely could have been, but apparantly he is/was using a PS/2 (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy/37EqX8-zo-g)... Think about what he could do with a Minimig these days :)
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Thorham on January 12, 2014, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;756799
Your eyes move pretty much constantly; the hard part is keeping them fixed in a specific direction when they reflexively want to move. Try directing your gaze around the corners of your field of vision for a few minutes, and see how long it takes you to start getting a headache.

In other words: This sucks.
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: commodorejohn on January 12, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
Quote from: Thorham;756994
In other words: This sucks.
But don't despair! Though you may have to force yourself to endure physical discomfort for precisely no advantage whatsoever, your commitment to useless technology will bring The Future upon us faster! Thus it is written in the Book of Futurism!
Title: Re: CES 2014: is eye-tracking the future PC mouse?
Post by: Iggy on January 12, 2014, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;756996
But don't despair! Though you may have to force yourself to endure physical discomfort for precisely no advantage whatsoever, your commitment to useless technology will bring The Future upon us faster! Thus it is written in the Book of Futurism!

Ah yes, so said the joker that sold me that tablet.
Excuse my Luddite inclinations while I type this out on a real keyboard with a mouse at its side.