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Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trekiej on April 05, 2009, 01:21:28 AM
www.softhut.com
It seems if you click on other links and go back to the home page it shows Amiga forever.
I had to go to cart and then click on front page to get it to show up.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: A1260 on April 05, 2009, 01:27:53 AM
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Great Valley Products - GVP-M

April 2, 2009 Update - Software Hut and GVP have teamed to bring back many popular GVP products for the Amiga at new, lower prices. These are newly made production pieces with a full 1 year warranty. Many of the items are limited production so hurry as they will sell out fast.

GVP 4MB and 16MB 60ns RAM Module

GVP 4060DT

GVP A2000 060 Accelerator

GVP Spectrum Graphics Board

GVP Typhoon A1200 030 40MHz Accelerator



http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/accelerators/gvp-m_index.html&cart_id=4688317_57589

 :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trekiej on April 05, 2009, 01:32:21 AM
Thanks for the link.
I can not afford them.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Matt_H on April 05, 2009, 01:34:27 AM
I'm a bit surprised to see the Spectrum card listed. Still, a new supply of ZorroII/III RTG graphics cards is nothing to scoff at.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: save2600 on April 05, 2009, 01:39:49 AM
I too was surprised to see the ZII/ZIII video card AND an A2000 fast card. WOW! Talk about support. NEW & desirable products for such a cool platform and one that is 22+ years old no less!!

Take that Atari, Mac, PeeCee, etc.!!   :-D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2009, 02:06:32 AM
When I look at what I paid for a 68040 card for my A4000 not long ago then their 68060 card seems like damn good value to me considering that it is new and covered for 12 months.  Ditto for the A2000 68060 card.  Great stuff!

I'm a little surprised at the A1200 68030 card.  It's at the price I expected, although I expected it to have SCSI and some RAM included and not have to pay extra.

Still, these guys are talking a gamble and spending some serious money to make this run so good luck to them.

I'm really tempted to pick up a 68060 for the A4000 and eBay my 68040 card.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2009, 02:09:31 AM
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Matt_H wrote:
I'm a bit surprised to see the Spectrum card listed. Still, a new supply of ZorroII/III RTG graphics cards is nothing to scoff at.


I'm not familiar with the Spectrum card, but anything that will allow a modern screen resolution for websurfing is a must.  There's no point in upgrading your A2000 with a 68060 and a Deneb so you can try and surf the Internet in an ECS 4 colour super high-res interlaced flickering screen.  :)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Matt_H on April 05, 2009, 03:00:10 AM
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Darrin wrote:

I'm not familiar with the Spectrum card, but anything that will allow a modern screen resolution for websurfing is a must.  There's no point in upgrading your A2000 with a 68060 and a Deneb so you can try and surf the Internet in an ECS 4 colour super high-res interlaced flickering screen.  :)


Definitely.

I never had a Spectrum. I think it was one of the earlier Amiga graphics cards and was kind of forgotten about when RTG mania hit in the late 90s.

It looks quite capable, though - ZorroIII and a built-in monitor switcher are excellent features. I'm very tempted to get one for one of my secondary machines.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Retro_71 on April 05, 2009, 03:26:07 AM
Dam Wish i had the Money for all of them. Those 060 cpu cards look great. For the GVP Ram i cant remember do you have to get them paired for a G-Force 040 board?
Hmm seems like lots of nice things are starting to come out now, only problem is what to spend your money on.

Should i get Jen A4000 SD/FF or the Spectrum????
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Ami_GFX on April 05, 2009, 04:14:21 AM
I use a spectrum in my A2500 with an A2320 scandoubler. It's a rather nice card, all in all. You can use it with both Picasso96 and Cybergraphix as well as the native EGS drivers. Does just about as much as a Picasso II and it's ZorroII/ZorroIII auto sensing. $169 for a new one is not bad at all.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: prowler on April 05, 2009, 04:50:26 AM
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Definitely.

I never had a Spectrum. I think it was one of the earlier Amiga graphics cards and was kind of forgotten about when RTG mania hit in the late 90s.

It looks quite capable, though - ZorroIII and a built-in monitor switcher are excellent features. I'm very tempted to get one for one of my secondary machines.


The built in pass through was one of the things I loved about the spectrum. The fact that it supported native screen mode pass through on the card without needing to buy the extra component was very nice.

I had one on my A3000 and it was nice being able to switch between native and RTG screen modes automatically without needing to use a monitor switch box.

I replaced my spectrum with a CV64-3d. While the CV64-3d was a faster card and had an 'add-on' pass through option, I could never find out 100% from a reliable source if it would work in my A3000T or not  :-?

I am mighty tempted to get the 040/40 on GVP's website for my A3000T to replace the A3640 currently in it.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: LaPTuNa on April 05, 2009, 05:08:43 AM
All together now.....

Thank You GVP-M and Software Hut!!!!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: terminator4 on April 05, 2009, 06:08:03 AM
I'll believe when I hear folks here that bought them.  And how do we know if this is new old stock or old stock / refurbished???  pics of pcb+production would be nice.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Amiduffer on April 05, 2009, 06:14:23 AM
Could someone PLEASE volunteer to update their website!  :-D

GVP Data on Spectrum (http://www.gvp-m.com/egs_spectrum.html)

Looks good. I'm itching to get it for the A3000.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: amiga1260 on April 05, 2009, 06:56:34 AM
I preorded the 2x GVP 16 MB memory for my GVP 1230 II accelerator card.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: NovaCoder on April 05, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
That's great news and the prices aren't too bad either (and makes those eBay prices look silly).

I'll have to add a link to these from the 1200 that I'm selling on eBay  :lol:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: LoadWB on April 05, 2009, 08:50:22 AM
It would appear that they've made good on their recent announcements.  Much better than waiting years and years.  I would love to have another 060 for my second 2000 to build it into a BSD machine.  And new Zorro video cards are sure to be a hit, especially at that price.

If these make it to peoples' hands, rock the frak on.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: spihunter on April 05, 2009, 02:00:30 PM
I placed an order! I'll let you guys know if they actually have any in stock.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: sandpiper on April 05, 2009, 02:12:38 PM
@all

Anyone know whether the 4060DT will fit in an A3000D?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: spihunter on April 05, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
I got a email from them saying that the GVP stuff would be in stock in 10 days! Woot!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: klx300r on April 05, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
damn this is awesome...way to go GVP :-D  that new 030@40 with fpu is a great price though I wonder about WHDLoad compatability with the GVP cards :-?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: tone007 on April 05, 2009, 02:47:40 PM
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Anyone know whether the 4060DT will fit in an A3000D?


Not without some cutting of the drive tray.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: sandpiper on April 05, 2009, 04:35:38 PM
@tone007

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Not without some cutting of the drive tray


I take it the RAM sits up too high? Will there still be space for the hard drive and floppy?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: matthey on April 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Here is a link to info on the GVP-M 68060 accelerator...

http://www.gregdonner.org/gvp4060/solutions-help.html

It's a good design but the SCSI drivers in ROM are broken. There is a Guru ROM already programmed (but not burned) that would fix the problems though. If GVP-M added 128Mb of more modern faster memory already soldered on the accelerator (would fit better in a 3000 then too) and put a socket for the oscillator as well as added the Guru ROM I would be interested at that price. Ultra SCSI with user programmable flash ROM and MAPRom support and I would be even more tempted.

As far as the Spectrum goes, it's really slow and there were some reliability problems with them. The Spectrum is on par with a Picasso II but with different problems. I would get a used CV64 for a 3000 first.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: rednova on April 05, 2009, 05:37:38 PM
Good News!!!
I just ordered a gvp 16mb ram !!!
Now I can max my ram to 32mb for all my animation needs !!!
Cheers !!!
and thanks software hut/gvp !!!

rednova
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Tumbleweed on April 05, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
This is the last thing I need!. So many products I feel like a kid in the candy shop!

Well done softhut/GVP-M!

Tumble
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: countzero on April 05, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
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klx300r wrote:
I wonder about WHDLoad compatability with the GVP cards :-?


???  :-?  a 030 is a 030 nothing special about GVP that could create a compatibility problem.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: platmm on April 05, 2009, 10:41:28 PM
Got an email response pretty quickly - It's 10-14 days for the 4060.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on April 05, 2009, 11:57:04 PM
I'll be surprised if this happens. I ordered a GVP-M Typhoon A1200 030/40MHz. April fools???

Could not resist.

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crom00 on April 06, 2009, 12:19:41 AM
IT's great they're doing this. Being teathered to the GVP ram is a pain but still awesome news.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: klx300r on April 06, 2009, 01:55:19 AM
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countzero wrote:
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klx300r wrote:
I wonder about WHDLoad compatability with the GVP cards :-?


???  :-?  a 030 is a 030 nothing special about GVP that could create a compatibility problem.


well this wasn't what I was told when I bought my 030 card..the concensus by many Amigans I spoke to was to get a Blizzard for the best compatability...though I'm not a technician nor programmer...still great news for GVP in 2009!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Damion on April 06, 2009, 02:45:39 AM
The Blizzard wasn't the only player in the game. The GVP '030 cards of old were excellent... very well made, reliable, and compatible (heck, even my '060 GVP TekMagic works well with WHDLoad).

The downside was the proprietary RAM, also the MKIV Blizz had a better SCSI option.

However, I'm not sure what the GVP "Typhoon" is... hopefully a remake of the A1230+ (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/gvp1230mk2). Might want to wait for some more info/pics before ordering.

The Microbotics '030 card is the only one I know of that might cause problems with WHDLoad, as it (apparently) generates some random exception that crashes games and demos. I have no first hand knowledge of this though... could be an inappropriately configured card (flashrom parameters could be modified) or some other user error.

Obviously, the MKIV Blizzard was a nice card, arguably the best... but there's no reason to shy away from some of the other great cards out there.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: J-Golden on April 06, 2009, 04:43:10 AM
I can't get onto their web site!  Is anyone else having this porblem?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: sandpiper on April 06, 2009, 04:46:18 AM
@matthey

Thanks for the 4060DT info. Probably not a good idea for my A3000. I'll keep looking for that ever elusive Cyberstorm MK3.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: amigadave on April 06, 2009, 05:25:27 AM
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-D- wrote:
The Blizzard wasn't the only player in the game. The GVP '030 cards of old were excellent... very well made, reliable, and compatible (heck, even my '060 GVP TekMagic works well with WHDLoad).

The downside was the proprietary RAM, also the MKIV Blizz had a better SCSI option.

However, I'm not sure what the GVP "Typhoon" is... hopefully a remake of the A1230+ (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/gvp1230mk2). Might want to wait for some more info/pics before ordering.

The Microbotics '030 card is the only one I know of that might cause problems with WHDLoad, as it (apparently) generates some random exception that crashes games and demos. I have no first hand knowledge of this though... could be an inappropriately configured card (flashrom parameters could be modified) or some other user error.

Obviously, the MKIV Blizzard was a nice card, arguably the best... but there's no reason to shy away from some of the other great cards out there.


I am glad you are getting good use out of the 060 GVP TekMagic I sold you, but every time I see you mention it I wish I had kept it.  :boohoo:

Like you I have not seen or heard of the "Typhoon" for the A1200, but I have the GVP A1230+ (JawsII).
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: klx300r on April 06, 2009, 03:17:45 PM
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-D- wrote:
Obviously, the MKIV Blizzard was a nice card, arguably the best... but there's no reason to shy away from some of the other great cards out there.


well said :cheers:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on April 06, 2009, 04:17:07 PM
About memory, Joe said today: ------------------------

"Regular 72 pin fast page mode work, If you have a desktop case you should get the thin Tsop kind which is what we carry. Let us know if we should add it in

Thanks

At 07:40 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> Does this accelerator need GVP ram? Or will regular 72 pin simms work?
> I guess add the 32MB to my order in any case.
>
> Thanks
"


Get your butt to the hut!!!!!  
 :crazy:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: B00tDisk on April 06, 2009, 04:33:22 PM
This is in my opinion far, far cooler news than some ratty PPC dev-board that can barely run Linux and is too slow to even think about coding a DVD being passed off as anything "amiga".

Go GVP! :-D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trilobyte on April 06, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
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matthey wrote:

It's a good design but the SCSI drivers in ROM are broken. There is a Guru ROM already programmed (but not burned) that would fix the problems though.


The SCSI on the TekMagic A2060 is very fast, but as you said it indeed has its problems.  It would be nice if they could convince Ralph Babel to put the GuruROM on these new batches!  I would also like to upgrade my two A2060s to a GuruROM!  As it is, the A2060 works well with hard drives but not very well with CD-ROMs, scanners, etc.

I wonder how they are sourcing the chips for all of these boards?  How in the world can ancient NCR 53x710 SCSI chips still be in manufacture??

- tb
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2009, 05:37:21 PM
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trilobyte wrote:

I wonder how they are sourcing the chips for all of these boards?  How in the world can ancient NCR 53x710 SCSI chips still be in manufacture??

- tb


As we haven't seen any pictures of the boards, we're assuming that they are identical to the old production runs.  In the Software Hut advertising is mentiosn "based on" or similar in a few places.  The designs may well have been tweaked slight to use new chips and parts.

I see that nobody has dared to mention RoHS which might explain why a North America based company is selling them.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Damion on April 06, 2009, 06:33:34 PM
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amigadave wrote:

I am glad you are getting good use out of the 060 GVP TekMagic I sold you, but every time I see you mention it I wish I had kept it.  :boohoo:


Well, this might be your chance to get a new one! :-)

If I can swing it, I might pick up a 4060 for the A3K, and live with modifying a spare drive tray. I figure it's less risky than shelling out $$$ for an old MKII/III.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: x56h34 on April 06, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
I'm tempted to pick up a 4060DT. I doubt it would fit in my A3000T though.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Splurge on April 06, 2009, 07:05:46 PM
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x56h34 wrote:
I'm tempted to pick up a 4060DT. I doubt it would fit in my A3000T though.


If it did fit, I'd probably get one.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: x56h34 on April 06, 2009, 07:21:53 PM
@Splurge:

I'm pretty sure that there's a physical limitation, but mechanically it works.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: CLS2086 on April 06, 2009, 07:51:04 PM
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I see that nobody has dared to mention RoHS which might explain why a North America based company is selling them.

Except customs, who really care ?

Got no luck, i would have a 2060 but i have to send to repair my sony Ev-S9000 for a close amount... :boohoo:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2009, 08:03:32 PM
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CLS2086 wrote:

Except customs, who really care ?

Got no luck, i would have a 2060 but i have to send to repair my sony Ev-S9000 for a close amount... :boohoo:


I don't.

I'm sat here wondering how I can sneak an Indivision 4000 and a 4060 past my wife.  Hmmmm...

Damn, a really bad time for a repair bill to arrive.  :(
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Matt_H on April 06, 2009, 08:52:29 PM
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Darrin wrote:

I see that nobody has dared to mention RoHS which might explain why a North America based company is selling them.

Amiga-news.de did (http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2009-04-00013-EN.html): "These products probably will be not delivered to Europe because it is a remake of old developments which do not square with the RoHS-directive."

I imagine that means there'll be no European distributor, but I don't see what would stop European users from ordering directly from Softhut...

For the most part, I think RoHS is a great thing, since so much commodity PC hardware ends up in the garbage. As far as Amiga stuff, though, I'm kinda glad the US isn't enforcing it. The odds of Amiga stuff, especially new gear like this, ending up in a landfill are (I hope) very, very small.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Matt_H on April 06, 2009, 08:57:36 PM
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Splurge wrote:
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x56h34 wrote:
I'm tempted to pick up a 4060DT. I doubt it would fit in my A3000T though.


If it did fit, I'd probably get one.

Probably not something you'd want to do to brand new hardware, but you could try the ol' WarpEngine trick and rip out the vertical SIMM sockets and replace them with 2 angled ones.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: J-Golden on April 06, 2009, 09:29:14 PM
Ok, this is killing me.  None of the web links I try get me to Software Hut.  Not even google can get to it with a search.

Are you all belatedly pulling an April Fools Joke on me??? :getmad:  :boohoo:  :getmad:  :boohoo:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: spihunter on April 06, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
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Ok, this is killing me. None of the web links I try get me to Software Hut. Not even google can get to it with a search.  Are you all belatedly pulling an April Fools Joke on me???


There must be something up with your internet/browser. All links work fine here.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
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Matt_H wrote:

Amiga-news.de did (http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2009-04-00013-EN.html): "These products probably will be not delivered to Europe because it is a remake of old developments which do not square with the RoHS-directive."

I imagine that means there'll be no European distributor, but I don't see what would stop European users from ordering directly from Softhut...

For the most part, I think RoHS is a great thing, since so much commodity PC hardware ends up in the garbage. As far as Amiga stuff, though, I'm kinda glad the US isn't enforcing it. The odds of Amiga stuff, especially new gear like this, ending up in a landfill are (I hope) very, very small.


Cheers for that.

I agree that RoHS isn't a bad thing, but I wish EU laws were a bit more flexible to allow non-RoHS components to be marketed for devices developed before RoHS laws cam into effect.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on April 06, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
I've already ordered and received a confirmation for the A1200 accelerator, so I certainly hope it's not a joke. :-)

Re: RoHS, it doesn't matter if it ends up in a landfill or not--that piece of hardware is going to decay somewhere, sometime. Regardless, which bits can't be made RoHS compliant? The CPU? Old connectors? We don't actually know what they've used to piece them together yet.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on April 07, 2009, 12:21:40 AM
@J-Golden

Doood click harder.  :lol:

I got email correspondence back too. So, It's all good.

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on April 07, 2009, 12:39:29 AM
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Darrin wrote:
I agree that RoHS isn't a bad thing, but I wish EU laws were a bit more flexible to allow non-RoHS components to be marketed for devices developed before RoHS laws cam into effect.

RoHS allows for the use of non-compliant components produced before the directive was introduced, since a lot of machinery would be without spares otherwise. But I don't think it usually covers solder, and using non-RoHS parts made after the directive is out of question.

Similar directives will be introduced in the entire world sooner or later, so perhaps GVP-M had to make these boards before they became illegal even in America.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: stefcep2 on April 07, 2009, 01:13:16 AM
How and where are they getting chips from, and whose making the multi-layered PCB's?  Amazing that they can do this...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: magnetic on April 07, 2009, 01:33:06 AM
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-D- wrote:
The Blizzard wasn't the only player in the game. The GVP '030 cards of old were excellent... very well made, reliable, and compatible (heck, even my '060 GVP TekMagic works well with WHDLoad).




Well, for some reason GVP cards arent comptible with some high end Zorro boards like Vlab Motion..

I have to say they are very reliable boards those a2k o30s I had many customers with Video Toasters running those boards reliably for hours a day for years on end!

Also yes GVP Ram is expensive but its faster than any other ram you can put in your amiga afaik.


One last thing rather amusing, I remember being at one of the bigger amiga shows in like 97 and the GVP guy was ducking people left and right (nobody knew who he was) cuz ppl wanted more GVP products and they stopped production!

 :madashell:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on April 07, 2009, 02:34:27 AM
@Iggy_Drougge

Even if such laws were in effect, there are always loopholes. American companies have knack for skirting the legal system. Most likely, any non-compliant board would be produced in Mexico and brought into the US without inspection.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Miked on April 07, 2009, 06:12:16 AM
If only they'd make a production run of some A530s for the Amiga 500...

Regardless, I am thinking about a Spectrum for my Bodega Bay'd Amiga 500 system and an A4060 (does anyone know how 'overclockable' the 4060 is?)

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: terminator4 on April 07, 2009, 11:46:01 AM

@Iggy

I agree with you.  I also am sceptical that these are newly manufactured items.  Even here in USA, chips/parts/solder sold by chip/parts big business are now ROHS compliant.  
I also think that GVP/Softhut should have posted pictured if they have something concrete.  Others, like Individual Computers always do, and show that their hardware is new (I love seeing (c) 2008 23 years later after Amiga release! :-) )
Also, one of my major complains about 68040/60 GVP made boards, is their drivers simply are not good (you have to use their competitor's Phase 5 libs).  Worse, when I emailed GVP few years back for support I never got a reply.  And Softhut's tech support is pretty limited, I frankly don't think they are knowledgable (perhaps they let go some of their good people?).  Anyway, just being sceptical and willing to wait to see before buying. :-P
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: x56h34 on April 07, 2009, 02:24:47 PM
I think that the most important thing is for the cards to work as advertised and come with a warranty which the vendor(s) will support.

If those cards are new old stock back from the original days, then that's fine too. In fact, I'd prefer it like that than buying a card that was redesigned to accept newer parts/components and thus risking compatibility issues. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: countzero on April 07, 2009, 02:31:44 PM
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Miked wrote:
If only they'd make a production run of some A530s for the Amiga 500...



I think only thing that's stopping them is the housing of the A530. All units being produced are internal units which don't need housing.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 07, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
I wish there was more information available on these boards.  I just when to Software Hut and threw a 4060 board and some RAM into the shopping basket and stopped myself during check-out as I realised that nobody has actually seen these boards, posted pictures of them or reviewed them.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: save2600 on April 07, 2009, 03:03:10 PM
Somebody mentioned that Joe/Softhut hasn't actually received them yet. 10 days the post said. I'd buy this stuff from Joe with confidence. Even when I had a problem with my GVP ram, he quickly responded and took care of it. Looks like the first few from A.org that ordered will be reviewing this stuff! Wouldn't that suck to have missed out on a 4060 in the meantime?   :madashell:

Seriously, it would be interesting to know how many of each item have been produced...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 07, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
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save2600 wrote:
Somebody mentioned that Joe/Softhut hasn't actually received them yet. 10 days the post said. I'd buy this stuff from Joe with confidence. Even when I had a problem with my GVP ram, he quickly responded and took care of it. Looks like the first few from A.org that ordered will be reviewing this stuff! Wouldn't that suck to have missed out on a 4060 in the meantime?   :madashell:

Seriously, it would be interesting to know how many of each item have been produced...


Yeah, I trust Joe too and I've ordered from him in the past and had excellent service.  It's the people who are supplying him and the quality of their work is what is worrying.  I'd hate to miss out on a 4060 board too.

I currently have a Warp Engine 68040/40MHz with 64MB of RAM.  Am I likely to see much speed inprovement for things like Web Surfing in high graphic sites?

If I get a 4060 then the Warp card can go in my A3000.  :-)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: save2600 on April 07, 2009, 03:29:42 PM
I did not have a Warp Engine (supposed to be tip-top) in my A4000 as I had the standard Commodore 040/25mhz, but I do remember comparing *that* to a Phase 5 MKII 060 board I had. And umm.... yeah, the difference in browsing was very noticeable (I'd say it seemed at least 3x-4x as quick). Web browsing was a lot more tolerable and as I've said in the past, even on my A2500 spec'd below, an 060 does much to bring the legacy platform to VERY enjoyable surfing/computing levels. Often times as fast, if not faster than my 2.1ghz G5 (all things not being equal there, but you get the point).

I've had a 28mhz 040 in my A2500 before and was not terribly impressed departing from a 25mhz 030. The 060 will make your machine screeeam!


Linky to some info about basic speed comparisons, etc (http://www.amigafuture.de/kb.php?mode=article&k=2015)

Another linky to interesting 4060, etc. stuff (http://www.amigau.com/users/amigasource/ml/5.htm)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: x56h34 on April 07, 2009, 03:37:26 PM
A short update on A3000T compatibility.

The Unofficial GVP A4060 support site (http://www.gregdonner.org/gvp4060/solutions-help.html) seems to have a testimonial in it that claims that A4060 fits in an A3000T, without any modifications required.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 07, 2009, 03:43:02 PM
@ Save2600

Thanks for all the info.  I like to go by someone's "real world experience" than look at a bunch of numbers and it certaily sounds like a worthwhile upgrade.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on April 08, 2009, 01:53:59 AM
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Trev wrote:
@Iggy_Drougge

Even if such laws were in effect, there are always loopholes. American companies have knack for skirting the legal system. Most likely, any non-compliant board would be produced in Mexico and brought into the US without inspection.

Actually, GVP is moving their facilities to the Philippines. But it's not easy to do a commercial import of a whole lot of electronics without passing the customs.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: amigadave on April 08, 2009, 11:37:26 AM
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countzero wrote:
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Miked wrote:
If only they'd make a production run of some A530s for the Amiga 500...



I think only thing that's stopping them is the housing of the A530. All units being produced are internal units which don't need housing.


Interesting comment.  I have an A530 and my next door neighbor owns a injection plastic molding company and could probably reproduce the A530 case, but the creation of the mold is expensive.  I don't know what he would charge to do it, but if there is a possibility of getting A530 pcb's produced, I could get a quote for the cases.

The A530 is a great item for the A500.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: mongo on April 18, 2009, 06:45:14 PM
And then 10 days later they let their domain expire...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: zipper on April 18, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/accelerators/gvp-m_index.html&cart_id=6182409_15836
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Methuselas on April 18, 2009, 08:03:55 PM
It's still parked, so that's a good sign....
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: arnljot on April 18, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Very strange. But if people have paid for products using credit cards, they should be safe - if the worst have happened.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Retro_71 on April 21, 2009, 01:02:38 AM
Just went to their website seems like it is still up http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi so all seems ok, have sent him an email since i have pre-ordered a 4060 and GVP RAM will see how things go.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Retro_71 on April 21, 2009, 01:14:31 AM
Just got am email from Joe first batch coming in on Friday...  :-D
I hope i am in that group...........  :lol:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on April 21, 2009, 07:33:41 AM
I took a chance and ordered on Sunday, through Paypal. So far nothing has come as a PayPal invoice. If I don't hear from them soon, I will call with a CC number. :angry:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: darksun9210 on April 21, 2009, 10:45:58 AM
i found the 4Mb simms, but i must be missing something as i can't find the 4060 boards?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on April 21, 2009, 06:16:08 PM
Just got an email from Joe, It looks like Monday now.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trekiej on April 21, 2009, 06:20:32 PM
I noticed the web site is up again.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: HammerD on April 21, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
@trekiej

I ordered a GVP Spectrum graphics card and selected PayPal.  Joe emailed me back and said he would send a paypal money request once the cards were in stock.  I think 7-10 days...

I am anxious to get the card and see if it is identical to the original GVP Spectrums...i thought it would be hard to get the chips they used back then...but we will see.

Anxious to play with EGS again :-)

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trekiej on April 21, 2009, 07:19:31 PM
@ HammerD
040 and 060 are expensive.
I wonder if they had old stock.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: HammerD on April 21, 2009, 07:51:31 PM
@trekiej

I think it's new Stock. :)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: trekiej on April 21, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
@HammerD
That would be great
The Amiga revival is at hand.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Retro_71 on April 22, 2009, 12:18:26 AM
As far as i know they are new stock limited run don't know if they will make anymore (but considering how fast this lot went, maybe they will).
I have order an 4060 and GVP for my G-Force 040, Joe sent me an email saying stock will be in on Friday and he should be processing everyone's pre-order then.
Can't wait to put a 4060 in my A4000!!!
As a side note will the on board SCSI be fast then my FAST ATA IV????
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on April 26, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
I just got my payment request via paypal from Softwarehut today, and paid it. A pretty good sign things are moving forward...

 :-)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on April 27, 2009, 12:17:25 AM
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TheGoose wrote:
I just got my payment request via paypal from Softwarehut today, and paid it. I pretty good sign things are moving forward...

 :-)

Got mine also and paid :-D Here is to hoping for less than 2 weeks turn around :pint:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Matt_H on April 27, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
Info update:

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April 24, 2009 Update - Software Hut and GVP have teamed to bring back many popular GVP products for the Amiga at new, lower prices. These are newly made production pieces with a full 1 year warranty. Many of the items are limited production so hurry as they will sell out fast. Our first batch of ram both 4mb and 16mb simms has arrived today and A2000 and A4000 accelerators are due in stock on Monday. A1200 accelerators should be the end of next week and the Spectrum boards should be in around May 5th.

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Darrin on April 27, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
I'm waiting until someone here actually has one in their hands and says they work.

Call me cynical, but I'm the proud owner of a $50 Amiga Inc coupon and I'm still entitled to 50 quid off the price of an Amiga-on-a-PCI-card.  :-D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Nlandas on April 27, 2009, 07:06:14 PM
Oh, sure - both my A4000 quit on me and out come some really cool. Fair priced 060 accelerators.

Ok, I'm off to look for another working A4000D.

 :-D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: DamageX on April 29, 2009, 09:15:29 AM
I put my A2000 away a couple years ago since it wasn't working right. But now that the holy grail of this forum has finally appeared... new accelerators! I decided to jump in and order the Typhoon. I'm also getting an a1200 to put it in. Fun times ahead.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Plaz on April 29, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
I wonder if they take trade-ins? I might like to trade my 2000/060 card for an A4000 version.

Plaz
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: mbrantley on April 29, 2009, 03:29:16 PM
My credit card has taken the hit for my pre-ordered GVP 4060 from the Hut. It won't be long now before my 4000 goes on the operating table for the transplant. Then I'll have a spare 040 CyberStorm board to try to squeeze into my 3000.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: spihunter on May 02, 2009, 02:09:56 PM
I got my GVP Ram in the mail today with a note saying that my Spectrum card will ship in 6-9 days!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on May 08, 2009, 01:41:08 PM
I just ordered and paid for my A1200 030/40 with 16mb of ram, the PayPal request came very quickly and the email responses have been very fast. This is so exciting, I used to love the GVP products, they were built so well.  Wooo hooo can`t wait!  :lol:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 08, 2009, 02:35:46 PM
Joe at Software Hut said my boards would have shipped Monday, May 4th.  Still (impatiently) waiting for delivery...

 :-o

Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on May 08, 2009, 05:39:48 PM
Joe told me they would be shipped either today or monday, should be interesting to see how long it will take to Japan.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 08, 2009, 06:39:56 PM
The simms they sell are 70ns. Are these capable of getting the best performance from these cards?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on May 12, 2009, 02:50:29 PM
Hmm, maybe this week, by Friday. Any other shipping updates?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on May 12, 2009, 04:37:09 PM
I last heard from Joe on Friday, He had said there was a small delay and the Typhoons would hopefully ship yesterday. I haven't heard anything since
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 12, 2009, 10:23:46 PM
I just received a UPS shipment notification from Software Hut.  Something will be arriving on my doorstep on Thursday.  Hopefully this will be the 4060 or A1200 Typhoon.

 :-P
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on May 12, 2009, 10:30:54 PM
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Crisisdog wrote:
I just received a UPS shipment notification from Software Hut.  Something will be arriving on my doorstep on Thursday.  Hopefully this will be the 4060 or A1200 Typhoon.

 :-P

Hopefully that is just to the US. IF he uses UPS to Canada, he has lost a customer. Never mind UPS will probably charge at least $50 for this. I have e-mail him, hopefully its not too late.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: TheGoose on May 12, 2009, 11:24:37 PM
Alright, sounds good - thanks guys.

 :pint:  :pint:  :pint:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: VingtTrois on May 13, 2009, 04:28:22 PM
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On 13/05/2009 15:55:44, Joe Muoio, Software Hut Inc, (sales@softhut.com) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Both the 4mb and 16mb ram is in stock now, we are starting to ship all
> backorders for 1200 and 4000 boards now and expect to have them filled by
> Friday or this coming Monday. The Spectrum boards are about 2 weeks away
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on May 13, 2009, 06:44:26 PM
I just heard from Joe.
Softhut Uses USPS for Canadian orders (Thank goodness!)
My Typhoon will be shipped tomorrow. :banana:  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 15, 2009, 03:17:11 PM
Still waiting for the A1200 Typhoon, but got my 4060 board yesterday.  Not a lot of time to play with it in a working state, but I spent three hours trying to get the board to work in my desktop A3000.  *Finally* got it working, to a point.  Although the board appears to be in solid shape, I have to make a comment on the jumpers and their settings.  First off, most of the small jumpers appeared to be "melted", exposing the internal metal conductor, which seems to be shorting out adjacent jumpers.  On top of that, several of the "reserved" jumpers were not set correctly from the factory.  After carefully going over all the settings, twice, and disabeling "active termination" on the SCSI chain (which also seems to be stopping the unit from booting), I got the thing to fire up and recognize all the installed memory.  I may need to reload AmigaOS on my system, several datatypes and some applications would not work with the new 060 board, even with the 68060.library copied over.  I'm under the impression that I may have been using specific 040 optimized versions, but it's been so long I can't really recall.  One nice thing I noticed about the board is that the clock crystal is in a socket, it's not soldered in.  Currently at 25/50MHz, it should make it easy to drop in a 30/60 or 33/66 to attempt an overclock.

Joy for now...

 :-D

Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 17, 2009, 02:13:38 AM
Crisisdog,

Have you had any more time to try the board out? How does it perform and what do you think of it? Any issues? Did you get your RAM from Software hut too?

I'm about to order one myself and am interested to hear some thoughts from those that have theirs already.

Thanks,

Robert
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 17, 2009, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: RMK305;454453
Crisisdog,

Have you had any more time to try the board out? How does it perform and what do you think of it? Any issues? Did you get your RAM from Software hut too?

I'm about to order one myself and am interested to hear some thoughts from those that have theirs already.

Thanks,

Robert



Hi there!  I still have not had a whole lot of time to play with the new 4060 board, but I did manage to get it operational with my current OS 3.9 load without needing to fully reload the OS.  Not exactly sure, but I'm under the impression that the board also required the 68040.library specifically from the install floppy along with the 68060.library.  Once copied over and rebooted, my datatypes and remaining applications began to work without any issues.

I haven't thrown any major speed tests at it, but as an example, JPEG files that are around 1024x768 would literally take about 30 seconds to open and display with my WarpEngine 040/40MHz.  The GVP 4060 board (060/50MHz) does the same in about 10 seconds.  Wow, still slow by today's standards with PCs running well over 1GHz, but it makes it more bearable.  Also, ADoom is "playable" now, I couldn't deal with it on the WarpEngine board.  It's still slow, but I think that's more to do with the incredibly slow GVP Spectrum board I have.  If I had a Picasso IV or CyberVision 64, I think it would move much faster.

Just to refresh everyone's memory, I've go this installed in a desktop A3000 with the latest chip revisions and interrupt fix.  I'm still working on modifying the drive cage / shelf to allow the board to fit, it really wasn't designed for the desktop A3000, but I did have a full size WarpEngine in there previously.  I need to order a new SCSI cable (don't ask), once that arrives I'm certain I'll be able to slap it back together, but it's not going to be pretty.  Thankfully the case cover still slides on so the internal hack job isn't revealed.

The board seems stable and well constructed, but as per by last post, the jumpers were melted and shorting out, and also not set properly for some of the "reserved" functions.  It took me three hours to troubleshoot.  I removed the jumpers and salvaged the workable ones.  Most of the contacts did not need to be "closed", so I had some spares to play with.  Although I purchased 32MBs of memory from SoftHut, it arrived as 70ns speed. I ended up yanking the 64MBs / 60ns modules from the WarpEngine instead.  At first it would only recognize 32MBs, but it seems that ended up being an incorrect "reserved" jumper setting.  There are two more jumpers to select 4MB / 16MB module size, and single / dual sided.  I thought I killed it for a while as it would not boot at all, but that ended up being the SCSI active termination jumper.  I have no clue why that setting won't let it boot up properly.  Other than that, there is a jumper to select 60ns or 70ns memory speeds (seems to work at the 60ns setting), and an additional "synchronous" boost setting for dual memory modules, which I can't get to work with the four installed modules that are exactly the same.

I'm happy, I think it was a good purchase.  I tried years ago to get a Cyberstorm MK-II 68060 running, but apparently that model had some sort of DMA issue where the built-in A3000 SCSI controller failed to work with the board installed.  Other than the size of the new 4060 fitting in a desktop A3000, it seems to be working just fine.

I'm looking around for a faster oscillator crystal, once I get one I'll try to overclock it.  Also looking at online auctions for better video boards, that will be my next purchase.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: sandpiper on May 17, 2009, 03:42:58 PM
@Crisisdog,

I am quite interested in your experiences installing the 4060 in your A3000D. I would like to do the same with my A3000. Could you post some photos once you have finished hacking the drive tray?

I also read somewhere that the 4060 will only boot from FFS partitions. Is that true?
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on May 17, 2009, 04:00:42 PM
Has anyone received their Typhoon boards yet?  I am interested to see how much of a speed boost people have received from them.  Cheers!
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on May 17, 2009, 07:49:49 PM
Quote from: Crisisdog;454477
Hi there!  I still have not had a whole lot of time to play with the new 4060 board, but I did manage to get it operational with my current OS 3.9 load without needing to fully reload the OS.

The board seems stable and well constructed, but as per by last post, the jumpers were melted and shorting out, and also not set properly for some of the "reserved" functions.  It took me three hours to troubleshoot.  I removed the jumpers and salvaged the workable ones.  Most of the contacts did not need to be "closed", so I had some spares to play with.  Although I purchased 32MBs of memory from SoftHut, it arrived as 70ns speed. I ended up yanking the 64MBs / 60ns modules from the WarpEngine instead.  At first it would only recognize 32MBs, but it seems that ended up being an incorrect "reserved" jumper setting.  There are two more jumpers to select 4MB / 16MB module size, and single / dual sided.  I thought I killed it for a while as it would not boot at all, but that ended up being the SCSI active termination jumper.  I have no clue why that setting won't let it boot up properly.  Other than that, there is a jumper to select 60ns or 70ns memory speeds (seems to work at the 60ns setting), and an additional "synchronous" boost setting for dual memory modules, which I can't get to work with the four installed modules that are exactly the same.


At least you got yours working. I got one for the 4000D rev. B and can't get it to boot. The 4000 came with the 3640 which was working and I switched out to the 4060 and nothing. Won't boot, can't even get a 'Insert WB screen'. Put the 3640 back in and it works. Removed all cards, HD, floppy, CD, MB memory (MB has 16MB). Nothing. I bought 128 MB of ram which was installed on this card. I didn't change any jumpers before installing it the first time. After it wouldn't boot I tried different jumper settings with the same result.

Right now I have nothing installed except the 4060 with 128MB ram, 16 MB ram on the MB and it won't boot to 'Instert WB screen'.

Is there a jumper on the 4000 MB I need to set for this to work?

BTW, my crystal is soldered on.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 17, 2009, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: wlemonds;454716
At least you got yours working. I got one for the 4000D rev. B and can't get it to boot. The 4000 came with the 3640 which was working and I switched out to the 4060 and nothing. Won't boot, can't even get a 'Insert WB screen'. Put the 3640 back in and it works. Removed all cards, HD, floppy, CD, MB memory (MB has 16MB). Nothing. I bought 128 MB of ram which was installed on this card. I didn't change any jumpers before installing it the first time. After it wouldn't boot I tried different jumper settings with the same result.

Right now I have nothing installed except the 4060 with 128MB ram, 16 MB ram on the MB and it won't boot to 'Instert WB screen'.

Is there a jumper on the 4000 MB I need to set for this to work?

BTW, my crystal is soldered on.


Sorry, not sure what to tell you.  Here's things I had issues with, maybe it will help:

JP6 - Active SCSI Termination - Leave it off for now, wouldn't boot when on.
JP3 - "Reserved" jumper - Make sure it's on 1-2 (default per manual), mine was 2-3
JR1 - Memory Burst mode - By default it's "on", mine wouldn't work until I turned it off.

Jumper banks: JP4, JP2, JP1, JR8, JR7 - These should all be "off" by default instructions, I removed them as they were melted together and appeared to be shorting each other out.  My JR7 was on when I received the board, per the instruction manual, it's another "reserved" jumper that should be off.

I'd also try removing your motherboard memory and just keeping the 4060 memory installed for now.  I don't have an A4000, but any accelerator I tried in the past (other than the A3640) would not work with the ZIP chip memory installed on my A3000 system board.  There are motherboard jumpers for the A3000 to use an accelerator board, as it has an 030 built in by default.  Again, no A4000 here to know for sure if that could be an issue, but here's a site that lists some settings:

http://www.amigau.com/natamiga/t-4000d-jumpers.shtml

Looks like the A4000 motherboard has jumpers J100 and J104, I'd guess they should be on 2-3 for "external" clock sources.

Good luck, hope something here helps...
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 17, 2009, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: sandpiper;454631
@Crisisdog,

I am quite interested in your experiences installing the 4060 in your A3000D. I would like to do the same with my A3000. Could you post some photos once you have finished hacking the drive tray?

I also read somewhere that the 4060 will only boot from FFS partitions. Is that true?


Give me a week or so and I'll see what I can do.  Waiting on a crystal and SCSI cable before I seal her up again.  Be interesting to see how our new Amiga.org handles picture file uploads, if at all.  Otherwise I'll be looking for someplace to upload them.

I have not used any third party file systems, I've always used FFS since Kickstart 1.3.  I believe I have it set to International / Cache mode.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 17, 2009, 09:28:53 PM
This is a bit of a dissapointment to be honest at this stage. :(
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: CLS2086 on May 17, 2009, 09:30:50 PM
Does any one make photo of these new cards ?
Do you notice some change or recent composant on them ?
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on May 17, 2009, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: ami_junki;454632
Has anyone received their Typhoon boards yet?  I am interested to see how much of a speed boost people have received from them.  Cheers!


I don't think they have even been shipped yet. Joe was saying there was a delay of some sort from GVP. He had hoped to ship mine out last Thursday, but I have not heard from him since Wednesday.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Damion on May 17, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: RMK305;454743
This is a bit of a dissapointment to be honest at this stage. :(

It usually takes a bit of trial and error setting up an expanded Amiga... with all the jumpers on the card and motherboard, different hardware configurations, etc, you'll likely have to play a bit to get things working. The original hardware is ancient and prone to failure as well. :(
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on May 17, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: Crisisdog;454734

JP3 - "Reserved" jumper - Make sure it's on 1-2 (default per manual), mine was 2-3


Which is pin 1, towards the scsi interface or towards the processor? The orientation of the arrows between JR3 and JP8 makes it confusing.

And the same for JP8, is pin 1 towards the bottom of the card or the top?

JR7 and JR8 were ON and I now have them off. The J100,104 are set to "EXT" pins 2-3. I've removed the memory off the MB. Still no change.

Joe says this was tested and worked, before he sent it to me.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 17, 2009, 11:21:11 PM
For anyone that is interested, I e-mailed to enquire about the speed of their 32meg simms being 70ns and the effects this would have on the performance of the card and got the following reply.

"Yes we use all the same make and speed, we run them all at 60ns through a tester so regardless if it is marked 70 or 60ms it works fine (we try to use 60ns if available ofcourse). Most brand name ram can run much faster than marked, we run motorola ram through our tester at 40ns when it was marked 80ns"
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Crisisdog on May 18, 2009, 12:40:47 AM
Quote from: wlemonds;454756
Which is pin 1, towards the scsi interface or towards the processor? The orientation of the arrows between JR3 and JP8 makes it confusing.

And the same for JP8, is pin 1 towards the bottom of the card or the top?


Pin 1 should be the "pointy" end of the white silk-screen around the jumper.

For "JP3" (Reserved), that would be the pin toward the processor.  (JR3 / Burst Write is in the bank of 10 jumpers.)  For JP8 (040 / 060 selector), that would be the pin toward the top of the card, if you have the motherboard connector toward the bottom.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on May 18, 2009, 12:57:40 AM
I wish they'd make a harddisk/scandoubler solution for the A500 too.
Title: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 20, 2009, 12:21:41 AM
How did the pair of you get on with getting these boards working properly?

Did anyone else order a 4060? Surely there must be more than 2 people on Amiga.org who ordered them?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: new2amga on May 23, 2009, 06:37:30 AM
I ordered a 4060 Accelerator too.  I don't have any info on it yet, as he won't have one to ship me until next Tuesday.  I will post any findings that I find though.  I have a feeling it's going to cause a bit of a headache as I have a Revision B Motherboard if I remember correctly.  Let me check really quick..... Yep, the picture says Commodore A4000 Rev B.  So I have heard others are having problems with this motherboard.  All I can say is as long as it works better than the A3640 Rev3.0 I have, I will be very happy.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 24, 2009, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: new2amga;455765
Yep, the picture says Commodore A4000 Rev B.  So I have heard others are having problems with this motherboard.  All I can say is as long as it works better than the A3640 Rev3.0 I have, I will be very happy.


What sort of problems are others having?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on May 24, 2009, 11:04:44 PM
I have yet to get this to work. I've been in email tag with Joe and GVP on what is wrong with this card.

The JP100 and JP104 jumpers on the MB needed to be in the 1+2 position, I'm told. Why, I have no idea. The 3640 required pins 2+3.

Since I wrongly assumed those pins were supposed to be 2+3 when I installed the card I started messing with the pins on the card. I've set them by the other guy's post and I've set them back to where they were when I got it.

I've tried running with or without MB memory. I've tried running 1 stick of 32 MB on the card, switching sticks to make sure there isn't a bad one in there.

I tried running without any cards except the 4060. And I've tried without HD, CDROM or floppy. I can't get a "Insert WB" screen or "Early Startup Menu" with the 2 button mouse press.

I've tried installing the 3640 (changing the MB pins), HD, and floppy. Booted to WB 3.9, installed the 4060 software drivers. Then, removed the 3640 and put the 4060 back (changing the MB pins) and tried to boot and it never checks for a boot device. My HD light does not show the system polling it. I get the dark grey screen and nothing else.

My only other recourse is seeing if it will work on my A3000.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: NovaCoder on May 25, 2009, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: Crisisdog;454477
Wow, still slow by today's standards with PCs running well over 1GHz, but it makes it more bearable.  Also, ADoom is "playable" now, I couldn't deal with it on the WarpEngine board.  It's still slow, but I think that's more to do with the incredibly slow GVP Spectrum board I have.  If I had a Picasso IV or CyberVision 64, I think it would move much faster.


Yep that must be down to your grapics card because ADoom is *almost* up to speed on my little 030/50mhz AGA machine and certainly playable.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: smiley1635 on May 25, 2009, 01:49:13 AM
Adoom used to run full speed on my Apollo 1240 (32mb) and Spectrum gfx card.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: SamuraiCrow on May 25, 2009, 01:56:56 AM
ADoom will run diskless on 32 Megs of RAM or more if you A) Rename the wad file to something ADoom won't autodetect (such as doom.wadd), B) create a softlink named what the wad file name was (doom.wad) linking to the new name but in RAM: (ram:doom.wadd), and C) copy the renamed wad file to RAM: and start ADoom.  That's how I got it to run faster on my Blizzard 1230.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: NovaCoder on May 25, 2009, 03:23:32 AM
Cool, nice tip...I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: CLS2086 on May 25, 2009, 10:16:04 AM
Thanks for the tip SamuraiCrow
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: SamuraiCrow on May 25, 2009, 04:11:47 PM
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 25, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
I e-mailed software hut regarding the issues with A4000s and got the following reply.

"The units work with 99% of the A4000 motherboards, very early on Commodore shipped only a handful of motherboards with 2, 28mhz occilators rather than the standard 28 and 50mhz."

So off I go to check my motherboard has a 28 and 50mhz occilators.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on May 25, 2009, 08:52:38 PM
Quote from: RMK305;456209
I e-mailed software hut regarding the issues with A4000s and got the following reply.

"The units work with 99% of the A4000 motherboards, very early on Commodore shipped only a handful of motherboards with 2, 28mhz occilators rather than the standard 28 and 50mhz."

So off I go to check my motherboard has a 28 and 50mhz occilators.


I have a 28 and 50, so it's not that.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on May 30, 2009, 06:44:49 PM
Did you get any further with discovering what the problem was?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on May 30, 2009, 09:48:40 PM
Quote from: RMK305;457128
Did you get any further with discovering what the problem was?


There's something wrong with the board as it wouldn't work in my A3000 either, which has the INT mod. so they are sending me a replacement.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: HammerD on May 30, 2009, 11:11:21 PM
can u post a pic of the board? and packaging? thnx
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on June 05, 2009, 10:13:21 PM
Any updates?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on June 05, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
I'm still waiting on my replacement board.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on June 05, 2009, 11:23:27 PM
And I think everyone is still waiting on their Typhoons.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Caius on June 06, 2009, 01:40:57 AM
Could it be that "too good to be true" actually means "too good to be true"? :p
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: save2600 on June 06, 2009, 04:18:37 AM
If it were too good to be true, I suspect that the prices would have been much more down to earth. I also wouldn't be surprised if the orders are actually funding the production & assembly of these.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: new2amga on June 06, 2009, 07:15:41 AM
I don't see how the purchasing of these card initially funded their construction considering Softwarehut doesn't charge you for them until the card is in their hands and ready to ship.  I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and it has finally shown up and they have shipped it my way, I wasn't charged for the card until tuesday of this week.  If they were charging for preorders then I would say yes on the whole purchasing funding the cards.  From what I understand from talking with the gentleman at Softwarehut is that there is only one person assembling these cards, and he's doing it pretty much by hand, that could explain the whole taking forever thing, I think.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on June 06, 2009, 07:40:52 AM
Quote from: new2amga;509501
I don't see how the purchasing of these card initially funded their construction considering Softwarehut doesn't charge you for them until the card is in their hands and ready to ship.  I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and it has finally shown up and they have shipped it my way, I wasn't charged for the card until tuesday of this week.  If they were charging for preorders then I would say yes on the whole purchasing funding the cards.  From what I understand from talking with the gentleman at Softwarehut is that there is only one person assembling these cards, and he's doing it pretty much by hand, that could explain the whole taking forever thing, I think.


That's for CC orders, Paypal orders were paid in full. I know mine was over a month ago now. Joe emailed me on Tuesday, andhe was still waiting for the Typhoon cards in at his end, He is not to blame here, but I am getting a bit of "Cold feet" as I don't need the typhoon any more.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: mbrantley on June 06, 2009, 02:31:28 PM
I mentioned it in another thread, but I'll add to this one that Joe shipped my 4060 card on Thursday. Tracking number indicates a Tuesday delivery next week, and I will post photos as soon as I can. He said Mike at GVP was having some trouble getting any old SIMMs to work with the 4060 boards, and I had ordered mine mith no memory. GVP sent him boards with 64MB of tested memory this week, so I'm getting one of those. Joe indicated that if I wanted a board with more memory it would take a few extra days. He said if I still wanted a board with 0MB I could send in my own memory for testing. I opted to go with the memory already installed and working and available now.

Joe's a good guy. I ordered four newly made GVP SIMMs a few months ago for an 040 accelerator. Three of the SIMMs worked fine, but I had trouble with the fourth. Joe aswapped out that SIMM for me twice, until all the components were happy in my 2000.

Just be patient. He'll take care of us.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: save2600 on June 06, 2009, 04:25:09 PM
@new2amga:

Didn't mean to imply the literal interpretation that cold hard cash was needed or taken in advance to "fund", but preorders seemed to have been necessary for sure. Whether Joe/GVP worded it that way or not. More of a true commitment to purchase... would be prudent in these times for sure. Not knocking, just hypothesising that, besides getting SIMMS to work, could be part of the answer here.

And yes - Joe is indeed a great guy. I'd never confuse any practice of his with a dubious nature. Never had, nor ever heard of a problem with Softhut other than communication at times and lack of website updating.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on June 08, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
Got my replacement board today and got it installed.

So far everything is working great!
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: new2amga on June 09, 2009, 03:43:41 AM
I didn't mean to imply anger with my statement Save2600.  I was just under the impression that since I wasn't charged on my CC until the card came in that they weren't taking the money from people until the cards were there.  I was unaware of the Paypal thing, as I only use that here and with things that I buy off Ebay.  I am going to agree with you on the possibility the money was needed on preorders to go ahead with the manufacturing of these cards.  I don't know how many cards of each run are left, but I am very happy to have gotten an accelerator for my A4000.  Now if that machine wasn't in need of repairs.....
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: HammerD on June 09, 2009, 03:55:55 AM
Can you please post some pix? of the board and packaging?

NO ONE has posted any pix of the new gvp stock :( :(
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on June 09, 2009, 04:17:11 AM
Still waiting for the Typhoon board but got an email today from Joe, looks like they are expecting to ship the boards on Wed or Thurs this week, fingers crossed, がんばる Joe and Mike!  Will post a review on my amigalife.me site when the board arrives :)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: DamageX on June 09, 2009, 07:06:02 AM
haha, figures that they're going to ship now, since I'm not going to be home next week ;)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: yssing on June 09, 2009, 07:52:10 AM
It would be wonderfull if the could make a re-run of the Apollo 1260 cards..
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: mbrantley on June 10, 2009, 12:45:40 AM
My GVP A4060DT Accelerator arrived today. Haven't had time to install it yet, but I did snap some pictures. I just uploaded them here to the gallery in the A4000 section.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Damion on June 10, 2009, 01:42:02 AM
Thanks for the pictures. Minus a few trivial details (like the soldered EPROM) it looks identical to the original. If they fixed the automount bug in the scsi.device, I'm getting one. Anyone want to test their card to see if it mounts PFS3 or SFS partitions? Pretty please? :-)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Retro_71 on June 10, 2009, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: -D-;510296
Thanks for the pictures. Minus a few trivial details (like the soldered EPROM) it looks identical to the original. If they fixed the automount bug in the scsi.device, I'm getting one. Anyone want to test their card to see if it mounts PFS3 or SFS partitions? Pretty please? :-)


Got my 4060 today and have my SCSI HDD's ready including that 80 pin to 68/50 pin adapter ready will put the A4000 together this weekend and i will be using SFS, will let you know how i go..... :D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on June 10, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
Retro,

Loking forward to reading about how your SCSI drive goes.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Damion on June 10, 2009, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Retro_71;510323
Got my 4060 today and have my SCSI HDD's ready including that 80 pin to 68/50 pin adapter ready will put the A4000 together this weekend and i will be using SFS, will let you know how i go..... :D


Cool, thank you! :-)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on June 15, 2009, 10:51:01 PM
Retro 71,

How did you get on with the SCSI drives?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Firedawg on June 15, 2009, 11:52:19 PM
Quote from: Trev;509453
And I think everyone is still waiting on their Typhoons.

Corresponded with Joe on 6/4 concerning the availability of the Typhoon cards and he replied that he would have them on or around 6/8.  Has anyone received a Typhoon card yet?  I placed an order for one myself based on his expectation.  I'm not certain where that puts me in line to receive one either.  I also used PayPal for my method of payment, and from what I understand that he would send another email with a PayPal payment request, I'm I correct on this?

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on June 16, 2009, 03:51:06 AM
Yeah that is what I had heard as well, haven`t received anything yet from Softhut, no email saying that it was shipped either, I guess they are still having some production problems.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: HammerD on June 16, 2009, 05:29:30 AM
Quote from: mbrantley;510291
My GVP A4060DT Accelerator arrived today. Haven't had time to install it yet, but I did snap some pictures. I just uploaded them here to the gallery in the A4000 section.
Cool! thanks for the pix :)
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on June 17, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
Has anyone received any positive word from Joe on the Typhoon Cards? I emailed him today. If there is no new news, I am asking for a full refund. 2 months is just way too long to wait for something I don't need any more. I feel like a shmuck for doing it, but the money can be used elsewhere at this time.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on June 17, 2009, 10:34:22 PM
As much as I respect Joe, it is starting to get a bit annoying when he keeps giving us false shipping dates, I have received 5 different shipping dates so far.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on June 17, 2009, 10:36:57 PM
Yes, it's always "Thursday." I've sort of lost interest in what I wanted to use the card for, so I'm considering a refund, too...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: ami_junki on June 18, 2009, 05:39:18 AM
I can understand, I am kind of tempted to ask for a refund too as it seems like this is vaporware again, I`m better off buying an accelerator from Amibay.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: gdanko on June 18, 2009, 06:11:48 AM
I love it! Thats awesome.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Firedawg on June 18, 2009, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Firedawg;511461
Corresponded with Joe on 6/4 concerning the availability of the Typhoon cards and he replied that he would have them on or around 6/8.  Has anyone received a Typhoon card yet?  I placed an order for one myself based on his expectation.  I'm not certain where that puts me in line to receive one either.  I also used PayPal for my method of payment, and from what I understand that he would send another email with a PayPal payment request, I'm I correct on this?

Thanks,
Mike

Just an update on the Typhoon accelerators.   Joe emailed me this morning letting me know that he had confirmed the Typhoon cards will be in tomorrow (Friday 6/18).  Now, that was all he said and I hope that also implies that all orders outstanding will be processed and shipped tomorrow as well.:D

I did not receive a whole lot of feedback from my last post concerning payment, but Joe's emailed answered the payment part for me and I guess all the folks irritated over paying and not receiving their cards answered the other one.  

I have patience, but with this kind of special production where everybody (manufacture/seller) is protecting against risk (loss of $$$) my patience can be truly tested when someone has my money and I have no product.  I trust Joe and considering the special production run of these cards I will be a little more patient.  Keeping fingers crossed.

The Dawg
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: quarkx on June 18, 2009, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: Firedawg;512079
Just an update on the Typhoon accelerators.   Joe emailed me this morning letting me know that he had confirmed the Typhoon cards will be in tomorrow (Friday 6/18).  Now, that was all he said and I hope that also implies that all orders outstanding will be processed and shipped tomorrow as well.:D

The Dawg


That is strange. The e-mail he sent me today, he said Mike was coming in today with the cards, but he did say they would all be shipped out friday. I wonder if he got word from Mike after he sent out your e-mail.
Its a moot point anyway, because I have seen this same e-mail from him at least 4 times before (just different dates). We shall see.

@Dawg,
I am not sure about your payment question. In MY case, I paid with Paypal in full on April 26. With an expected time of delivery within 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: RMK305 on June 18, 2009, 08:17:23 PM
Has anyone got their 4060 card running with any SCSI drives yet?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: espenbo on June 18, 2009, 09:50:50 PM
Hello
I got a paypal reguest from software hut now. And they say they can ship as soon as I send the money.
So I hope Air mail is snappy to Norway. I will try to get som pictures out when I get it. But _I don't now how much time I will get when it comes. Maybe my first child will arrive first. :)

Espen

''Note:Hi, This is for the Typhoon accel with 32mb ram and air mail shipping to Norway. We can ship upon receipt of the payment. Thank you Software Hut''

I order i for a long time agoe. 19 may 2009. So finaly it's comming..
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: wlemonds on June 21, 2009, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: RMK305;512124
Has anyone got their 4060 card running with any SCSI drives yet?


Yea, I hooked up an old Fujitsu 1GB SCSI drive to it and it works. It autoboots as well. It does give a longer delay in booting as the 4000 looks to the IDE first. If someone knows how to fix that let me know.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Marcb on June 21, 2009, 08:02:48 AM
You can put a terminator on the oboard ide of the 4000,
Amigakit sells them...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Karlos on June 21, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: Marcb;512631
You can put a terminator on the oboard ide of the 4000,
Amigakit sells them...


Be careful it doesn't come off and go looking for Sarah Connor though...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: CodePoet on June 21, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
@Karlos

LOL! By far the funniest remark i've heard all day :D
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Marcb on June 21, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Karlos;512640
Be careful it doesn't come off and go looking for Sarah Connor though...


:roflmao:

And whatever you do, don't read anything into the name of the company that made the A4000's PSU...
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: VingtTrois on July 24, 2009, 10:56:55 PM
Hello,

Here is some informations about one order to Software Hut...

Name:     a friend of mine (Maurice)
Product:  GVP card + SCSI + 16 Mo Ram for AMIGA 1200
Date:      29 april 2009
Price:      $286,90 with Paypal

No answer about delay, no answer about delivery. No tracking #...

Nothing nothing nothing since 3 months !!!

Joe, where are you ? What are you doing ?????? Where is the card ? Where is the money ?

Can we consider you as a thief ??? Make us think the opposite, in interest of of amiga community.

Thanks a lot.

2316
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: amigadave on July 25, 2009, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: VingtTrois;516762
Hello,

Here is some informations about one order to Software Hut...

Name:     a friend of mine (Maurice)
Product:  GVP card + SCSI + 16 Mo Ram for AMIGA 1200
Date:      29 april 2009
Price:      $286,90 with Paypal

No answer about delay, no answer about delivery. No tracking #...

Nothing nothing nothing since 3 months !!!

Joe, where are you ? What are you doing ?????? Where is the card ? Where is the money ?

Can we consider you as a thief ??? Make us think the opposite, in interest of of amiga community.

Thanks a lot.

2316

Please do NOT post the exact message in multiple threads on the forums.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: J-Golden on July 25, 2009, 05:23:54 AM
Who hasn't recieved their boards yet?
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on July 25, 2009, 04:19:48 PM
Still waiting on either a board or a refund. Coming up on four months.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on September 18, 2009, 06:25:35 AM
Did everyone here get their GVP 4060DT? I wonder if they have them on stock.
Title: Re: Software hut has advertised new GVP accelerators
Post by: Trev on March 19, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
Did the Typhoon w/ SCSI ever ship?