ELBOX New Spider device

[Crumb]

@alexh

perhaps they reflash the small 8KB flash or eeprom chip. Depending on the chip model perhaps they update it using software (like uniflash) and they don´t need to modify anything of the hardware.

[Piru]

If you're attempting to pick holes in someone else's grammar

I wasn't.

[Insidious611]

Christ on a cracker, there's enough venom in this thread to kill half of africa.

[Tripitaka]

Christ on a cracker, there's enough venom in this thread to kill half of africa.

We have banks and politicians to do that, no need for us to join in.

I'm a bit shocked to see some of the comments here to be honest. It's all well and good giving Elbox a hard time (and no, I am not in any way defending them), but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.

[Heiroglyph]

but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.

I think the biggest barrier to that is doing anything that might hurt Chris who has done nothing but good for the community as far as I am aware.

He only gets paid when people license Poseidon and a driver that doesn't feed anything back to him is kind of a slap in the face.

I also assume that he probably has a driver already and that if he was OK with the community doing it, then he would just release his instead.

[amigakit]

I am not sure if it is still possible to register Poseidon any longer- I registered way back in 2003(?).  However if you like Poseidon, consider sending Chris a donation in recognition for his hard work.  Poseidon is a rare example of modern, good quality Amiga software.

[José Manuel]

yes thx to Chris ,without this possibly very much users of amiga classic have left the platform  and I think elbox also deserves applause for all good hardware in the last years

[Tripitaka]

I think the biggest barrier to that is doing anything that might hurt Chris who has done nothing but good for the community as far as I am aware.

He only gets paid when people license Poseidon and a driver that doesn't feed anything back to him is kind of a slap in the face.

I also assume that he probably has a driver already and that if he was OK with the community doing it, then he would just release his instead.

Well, I certainly wouldn't like to see Chris get screwed. That would be most unfair.

[amigakit]

@Tripitaka

I agree, USB is one feature I use on my Classic Amiga every day and it proves to be essential.

[mongo]

I think the biggest barrier to that is doing anything that might hurt Chris who has done nothing but good for the community as far as I am aware.

He only gets paid when people license Poseidon and a driver that doesn't feed anything back to him is kind of a slap in the face.

I also assume that he probably has a driver already and that if he was OK with the community doing it, then he would just release his instead.

Poseidon is open source. There are no licensing requirements anymore.

[Hizoap]

So are these cards still rebadged NEC 720101 USB cards with a modified PCI ID? (They sell for $7 or so)
?

Yes, thats right.

Does this mean that any USB card using the NEC 720101 chipset will work? If so, I found USB cards with this chipset for even less at $4.98!

Yes, with an different subsystem id.  I see you have no signature, I do however.

How do they change the PCI ID of the card? Jumper a few pins on the ASIC? Can someone  mod their own $4 board so as to not require software patches??

Atc24lc02 can easily be programmed, yes you can mod your own.

@alexh

perhaps they reflash the small 8KB flash or eeprom chip. Depending on the chip model perhaps they update it using software (like uniflash) and they don´t need to modify anything of the hardware.

They did remove the atc, programmed it and soldered it back on, looks like they didn't have a test clip for easy programming.
But yes you can reflash it. I like .5... instead of .5..3

We have banks and politicians to do that, no need for us to join in.

I'm a bit shocked to see some of the comments here to be honest. It's all well and good giving Elbox a hard time (and no, I am not in any way defending them), but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.

Why do it so difficult, serial eproms are easy to work with.
There are several low cost solutions for flashing 24 series, look on ebay. You can build a programmer for less then 20$.

[platon42]

Well, I certainly wouldn't like to see Chris get screwed. That would be most unfair.

... over and over again... seems to be a letter 'E' problem.

[platon42]

Poseidon is open source. There are no licensing requirements anymore.

AROS Poseidon != Poseidon for classic Amiga 68k.

[platon42]

Poseidon 4.4 works fine on my A1200T with AmigaOS 3.9

Try a mouse/keyboard behind a USB 2.0 hub. If this works, I'd like to see a PsdDevlister output.

[platon42]

We have banks and politicians to do that, no need for us to join in.

I'm a bit shocked to see some of the comments here to be honest. It's all well and good giving Elbox a hard time (and no, I am not in any way defending them), but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.

The source code of pciusb.device used on MorphOS and AROS can be got hold of from the AROS repository. My guess is that with minor modifications it could be adapted to work on classic PCI adapters. I have no idea about the state of the ArakAttack drivers on current versions of Poseidon. Maybe Geit has interest to get these up and running again. Maybe he should be bribed instead?

[platon42]

I think the biggest barrier to that is doing anything that might hurt Chris who has done nothing but good for the community as far as I am aware.

He only gets paid when people license Poseidon and a driver that doesn't feed anything back to him is kind of a slap in the face.

I also assume that he probably has a driver already and that if he was OK with the community doing it, then he would just release his instead.

I never was attempting to make a living on Amiga Software and gladly, in the past years it was less than 2% of my overall income... But yes, there were slaps in the face from people I would never had expected it.