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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: DJS on April 18, 2005, 12:39:21 PM
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Pictures of the production version of DRAGON 1200, the ColdFire-based accelerator combined with the PCI/AGP expansion busboard, are published in the Elbox website
www.elbox.com/dragon_photos.html (http://www.elbox.com/dragon_photos.html).
ColdFire CPU card:
(http://www.elbox.com/products/extra_prod/dragon_42-200.jpg)
Close-up of the DRAGON ColdFire CPU card fitted in the CPU slot. The ColdFire MCF5475 processor on the left.
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DRAGON 1200 mainboard:
(http://www.elbox.com/products/extra_prod/dragon_219-300.jpg)
Part of the DRAGON 1200 mainboard. From left: five PCI slots, AGP slot, CPU slot, PSCs module connector, and ATX connector.
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the posiblities 8-) both old and new :kitty:
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I never thought they would actually come up with something, but I'm not convinced yet.
Why is there no picture of it showing the whole board ? Doesn't those few pins on the top right of the second picture look like part of a PCI connector ? So is this just an industrial PCI/Coldfire risercard with an Elbox label (just like the Sonnet 7200 that should go for the SharkPPC). There is nothing wrong with it, but how should someone add this to an Amiga ??
I will only belive in it's existence if you show me a picture of it actually connected to an Amiga (if it will only sit around and do nothing but draw power from the PSU is a different story)
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Well done Elbox!
Sadly i don't use my 1200 anymore since i got a powerfull A1XE. Anyway i could buy a Dragon... or better a Shark to give new life to my 1200.
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Elbox,
Thanks for finally posting some pictures.
They could have been more detailed, true, however it's a nice sneak preview of what's (hopefully) to come. :-)
I like the idea of Coldfire being a replaceable board, so that if a future faster version should come out, one could simply replace it.
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No, it's quite visible that it's custom. That connector is not a PCI connector, it's a 1200 edge connector, it will be connected with the usual riser, I guess. Now, I'm still skeptic in tha I don't yet believe their performance figures and that they'll be able to pull it off.
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Time to start selling crack to school children, it's the only way I'm going to be able to afford this.
See what you are forcing me to do Elbox!!! :/
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"Infidels!
They shall all drown in a lakes of blood..."
"Tulsa Doom, Conan the barbarian" -1982. :-x
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Is the retail price of Dragon Euro 350 / US$ 455?
Is there any large volume discount for the product?
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If the specs are true as far as memory access and interface speeds goes wouldn't this board on an A1200 running OS3.9 kick the A1's rear? I mean with radeon 9700 graphics, DDR memory, with an OS that works?
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Well what is stated on the Elbox page is the theoretical maximum of the hardware itself.
DDR-RAM is capeable to trasfer data at...
Coldfire ha s a raw performance of...
That doesn't say one bit about how it would performe when it is put together and mounted to an Amiga running unter AmigaOS / drivers and with 68k emulationlibrary.
In theory the VooDoo3 in current Amiga-PCI boards should performe way better then it does in real live.
And I still don't belive it exists yet. I don't doubt the existence of the thing on the picrure, but I doubt that it is an actual running Amigaexpansionboard.
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I don't think so...
-0KB of L2 cache against 1MByte
-266Mhz against 800Mhz
-No vector unit against Altivec
-No native coldfire software against native ppc software
-No Warp3D (unless you use a voodoo3) against a Radeon with full 3D support (remember that Warp3D is done by Hyperion and I doubt they release Radeon Warp3D for 68k/Coldfire... so it doesn't matter much if you are using a radeon7000 or 9800 ;-P
-A system that requires various old boards to work against a modern board
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@Beowulf
Ah ah ah ah dream on.
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I still think it is a facinating combination. Even though an Amiga One would be faster (on the PPC side), I (for some reason) am more interested in blowing a laughable amount of cash for this and a $230 case (what the hell!?!??!). I guess it's just he idea of taking hardware from 1992, and Super Sizing it in a way that McDonalds and Arby's united, could NEVER dream! :)
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BTW, what sort of cards can you use with the new style PCI slots aside of certain sound cards?
What are those called anyhow?