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Title: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 12, 2011, 09:01:30 AM
So people... Been on and of since the Amiga days ended in 1995 for me... Been making a setup once in a while with E-UAE ... But it does not satisfy me anymore.

I want a real Amiga again.

What should I go for ?

I want to have it hooked up with my 42 Inch LED Flat Screen.... I want to draw some sprites in Deluxe Paint, for using with some coding in AMOS again ... Havent done that since 1995 and miss programming :-)

Should I buy an Amiga 600 HD ? Or a 1200 ... Or go totally retro and get me a 500+ ?

I want a HD in it ! ... And at least kickstart 2.0

What is the best buy ? Sorry for my poor english.

And by the way... Where is Motorolin ????
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 12, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
If you want a hard drive best to get an A600 or A1200 really.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 12, 2011, 09:07:39 AM
I had both back in the days, and I liked the design og the A600 best... Is it difficult to put in a larger harddrive ? .. Mine back then was only 40 mb :-)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tasmanian guy on April 12, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: TheMud;631122
I had both back in the days, and I liked the design og the A600 best... Is it difficult to put in a larger harddrive ? .. Mine back then was only 40 mb :-)

Compact flash with IDE to compact flash adaptor way to go.
 
For your tv output I suggest you get the Amigamaniac SVHS adaptor works great and flicker free on LCD TV's.
 
I'd recommend a 1200 rather than a 600, more expansion opportunities.
 
Need any help let us know.  I also recommend for retro gaming purposes to get WHD Load, a great program and worthy of buying.
 
I also got alot of Amos stuff still, including all the Amos programming books ever written and the Amos Aussie News letter from issue 2 to 9.
 
If you want to transfer your AMOS knowledge to PC, I heartily recommend Dark Basic Pro (now free with the advert supported version).
 
Best of luck with it all!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: TheMud;631122
I had both back in the days, and I liked the design og the A600 best... Is it difficult to put in a larger harddrive ? .. Mine back then was only 40 mb :-)


The A1200 won't cost much more than the A600 second hand (well, in the UK/Europe). And you get twice the ram, twice the speed (and it doubles again as soon as you add fast ram), and more colours/resolution choices, plus it will run most of your old OCS/ECS stuff (especially with WHDload). It's a no brainer really, unless you only want to program OCS/ECS.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tasmanian guy on April 12, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Khephren;631126
The A1200 won't cost much more than the A600 second hand (well, in the UK/Europe). And you get twice the ram, twice the speed (and it doubles again as soon as you add fast ram), and more colours/resolution choices, plus it will run most of your old OCS/ECS stuff (especially with WHDload). It's a no brainer really, unless you only want to program OCS/ECS.

With AMOS you're pretty much stuck ECS land unfortunately, they never did release an Amos that officially supported VGA.
 
But anyway, get an Amiga 1200.  I think you'll regret getting an Amiga 600 in the long run as for the reasons others have stated already.
 
Check out amigamaniac web site for info on things you may want.
 
www.amigamaniac.com (http://www.amigamaniac.com)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 12, 2011, 10:22:58 AM
Thanx people :-)

Just bid on a Amiga 1200 on eBay.

Jebus they are expensiv now a days :-O
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: A1260 on April 12, 2011, 11:12:17 AM
go for that a1200. that a600 is neat but very limited and got no aga.....


you should get this....

a1200, joystick, amiga mouse, composite/s-video cabel, aos3.1(and aos3.5/3.9 if needed)
ide2flashcard and a 1gb flash card for the hd
indivision for good display on your flat screen
an acceleration card blizzard 030 and 32mb ram or a blizzard 060 64mb ram or other 030/060 cards, 16mb is minimum
an pcmcia card reader that you can use flashcards with for easy transfer between the pc and amiga
an pcmcia network card for internett/network etc
an usb thingy for the clock port so you can connect a usb mouse/flashpen/extern hd/extern cdrom...

and some old floppies... always good to have a few, you never know when you need one..

if you need a sound card and can find a melody1200(then you also need a clock port expander), then you can play mp3 and do some more seriouse music making..


i think that pretty much cover it...
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: TheMud;631118
So people... Been on and of since the Amiga days ended in 1995 for me... Been making a setup once in a while with E-UAE ... But it does not satisfy me anymore.

I want a real Amiga again.

What should I go for ?

I want to have it hooked up with my 42 Inch LED Flat Screen.... I want to draw some sprites in Deluxe Paint, for using with some coding in AMOS again ... Havent done that since 1995 and miss programming :-)

Should I buy an Amiga 600 HD ? Or a 1200 ... Or go totally retro and get me a 500+ ?

I want a HD in it ! ... And at least kickstart 2.0

What is the best buy ? Sorry for my poor english.

And by the way... Where is Motorolin ????
Have you rulled out a MiniMig... That is what I would use for AMOS/DeluxPaint/OctaMed work on a modern TV now... The advantages over the old commodore machines are too numerous to mention :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 11:35:06 AM
I guess if you want to pay 3x the price for an ECS machine, with no case or keyboard as standard, then  minimig is the way to go ;)

Seriously though, minimig is meant to be upgradable in the future isn't it? AGA etc. How far have they got with that?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Damiga on April 12, 2011, 11:36:15 AM
Quote from: TheMud;631132
Thanx people :-)
 
Just bid on a Amiga 1200 on eBay.
 
Jebus they are expensiv now a days :-O

I recently bought an Amiga 1200 on ebay, I was very satisfied with the condition of it.
 
About a week later I was lucky to get an Amiga 1200 from Amigakit and the condition was superb. The one I got from ebay suddenly looked like crap when compared to the one from Amigakit.
 
So my suggestion is to contact Amigakit and see if they have any left or arriving soon. A bit more expensive, but mine was is excellent condition so I think it was really worth the extra money.
 
And while your at it, order a ACA 1230 accelerator like I did so you get the extra RAM, great for gaming with whdload =)
 
PS. And as "tasmanian guy" said, a pcmcia with cf-card for transfering files is nice to have, or networking.... or both =)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 12, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
I'll take a look at AmiKit

...

Again -> What happen with Motorrollin ?

He was always the first to answer my 100000000 queastions :-D
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 12, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
+3 A1200.
Re:Motorollin, He'll be back.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2011, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631139
I guess if you want to pay 3x the price for an ECS machine, with no case or keyboard as standard, then  minimig is the way to go ;)


An ECS machine won't interface properly with a modern TV, won't have as much RAM, will need adaptor to have an HD... And the ECS machine could die any moment. The ECS machine will need adaptor for a new Mouse/keyboard... Etc...

The OP doesn't need AGA as he is using AMOS :)

Quote

Seriously though, minimig is meant to be upgradable in the future isn't it? AGA etc. How far have they got with that?


That is the replay, apparently at A1200 level :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 12, 2011, 12:19:17 PM
"I want to have it hooked up with my 42 Inch LED Flat Screen.... I want to draw some sprites in Deluxe Paint, for using with some coding in AMOS again "

A1200   :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:19:38 PM
If you're interested MAINLY in OCS/ECS games I'd recommend to forget A600 and all the shit that comes with it. If I were you I'd buy PS3 and run Amiga emulation on it.. uses E-UAE but only a fraction of OCS/ECS won't run.. hardfiles with WHD works also. Costs you less than $300 and you get the best multimedia/games-center as a bonus.

If you're interested in AMOS-programming then this won't be an option as I think keyboard and mouse aren't supported by PS3 EUAE (yet!).
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 12:25:40 PM
You would have to hack your PS3 to play amiga games on.

This may cause issues as Sony claim to have solved the hacking issue with the last firmware update.

AFAIK nobody has disputed this yet
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631151
If you're interested MAINLY in OCS/ECS games I'd recommend to forget A600 and all the shit that comes with it. If I were you I'd buy PS3 and run Amiga emulation on it..
If you're interested in AMOS-programming then this won't be an option as I think keyboard and mouse aren't supported by PS3 EUAE (yet!).

The OP wants to program, and he does not want to use an emu. He says so in the first post.

@Bloodline

The Amiga is very PAL/NTSC compatible, why won't it interface with a modern PAL/NTSC tv? Iv'e had no probs so far. I recomended an A1200, but my point holds true- far cheaper. Both the A600 and A1200 feature IDE ports.

He may not need AGA, but he may wish to use it in the future. Certainly more RAM will help with WHDload. And the speed will help with compile times.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631155
So your point is pretty much pointless then. The OP wants to program, and he does not want to use an emu.


It's not pointless. The best and easiest way to have an Amiga plugged into your bigscreen-telly is the way I told. Plus who would want an ugly Amiga in his livingroom anyway, can't imagine many livingrooms the creamy lightbrown color fits. Current EUAE is pretty much on par with real A500/A600 .. if not even better.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 12, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
Y U No Risson ?

"I want a real Amiga again."

Da Man Said "Real!"

:banana: A1200 :banana:

Retrobrite White. Is Vogue !.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631154
You would have to hack your PS3 to play amiga games on.

This may cause issues as Sony claim to have solved the hacking issue with the last firmware update.

AFAIK nobody has disputed this yet


There are no issues I am aware of.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631156
It's not pointless. The best and easiest way to have an Amiga plugged into your bigscreen-telly is the way I told.


Surely the easiest way would be to get an Amiga and plug it into the TV with a RF/Scart/Composite cable
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 12:35:48 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631158
There are no issues I am aware of.


How about the issue of being banned from PSN and being unable to play future PS3 software?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631161
How about the issue of being banned from PSN and being unable to play future PS3 software?


Who in their right mind would let their hacked PS3 to connect to internet?

I have a second PS3 for that purpose. The hacked one is part of my homenetwork and used mainly for watching pictures and movies, listening to music and emulating several retro-machines.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631159
Surely the easiest way would be to get an Amiga and plug it into the TV with a RF/Scart/Composite cable


And as told before, where in your livingroom you hide the Amiga?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631156
It's not pointless. The best and easiest way to have an Amiga plugged into your bigscreen-telly is the way I told. Plus who would want an ugly Amiga in his livingroom anyway, can't imagine many livingrooms the creamy lightbrown color fits. Current EUAE is pretty much on par with real A500/A600 .. if not even better.

He wants a real Amiga
He does not want to use an emulator
He wants to use a mouse to draw
He wants to use a keyboard to program
He probably does not want to spend 300 quid, when he can get an A600/A1200 for far less. Even the minimig is cheaper.

Why don't you listen to what the the man wants, rather than trying force your viewpoint that's contrary to what has been requested?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2011, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631155
The OP wants to program, and he does not want to use an emu. He says so in the first post.

@Bloodline

The Amiga is very PAL/NTSC compatible, why won't it interface with a modern PAL/NTSC tv? Iv'e had no probs so far. I recomended an A1200, but my point holds true- far cheaper. Both the A600 and A1200 feature IDE ports.


The MiniMig output is scan doubled and flicker fixed... My LCD TVs look horrible when running my A500 and A1200... Both via RGB (Scart) and the RF modulator...

Quote

He may not need AGA, but he may wish to use it in the future. Certainly more RAM will help with WHDload. And the speed will help with compile times.


AMOS isn't generally compiled ;) but the 68k on the MiniMig does run quite a bit faster than the A600.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631165
And as told before, where in your livingroom you hide the Amiga?


I would never dream of hiding my Amiga
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631167
He wants a real Amiga

Why don't you listen to what the the man wants, rather than trying force your viewpoint that's contrary to what has been requested?


..and encouraging illegal activities that I think is not allowed on Amiga.org
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
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Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: bloodline;631172
The MiniMig output is scan doubled and flicker fixed... My LCD TVs look horrible when running my A500 and A1200... Both via RGB (Scart) and the RF modulator...



AMOS isn't generally compiled ;) but the 68k on the MiniMig does run quite a bit faster than the A600.


heh, true. little extra speed never went amiss.
Own 3 LCD TV's all display fine, without any flicker, and display NTSC fine as well. Can even link it up through VGA for scandoubled modes, but generally don't bother. In fact, iv'e never seen any LCD I own display interlace flicker. I guess it's going to depent on his make and model of TV then.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631167
He wants a real Amiga
He does not want to use an emulator
He wants to use a mouse to draw
He wants to use a keyboard to program
He probably does not want to spend 300 quid, when he can get an A600/A1200 for far less. Even the minimig is cheaper.

Why don't you listen to what the the man wants, rather than trying force your viewpoint that's contrary to what has been requested?


I'm not forcing anything, as a matter of fact it's pretty much the same for me if he wants to fill his apartment with buttugly hardware, I merely told about an option he may not been in knowledge of.

There are pros and cons as always.. in this case it may not be exactly what he wanted but instead he gets a good mediacenter. I feel its more you forcing options here.. you want to offer only one solution while I added an extra option. Sorry if I wen't offtopic with emulation stuff.. would have stfu if I'd known it causes this much stir.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 12, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631178
I'm not forcing anything, as a matter of fact it's pretty much the same for me if he wants to fill his apartment with buttugly hardware, I merely told about an option he may not been in knowledge of.

There are pros and cons as always.. in this case it may not be exactly what he wanted but instead he gets a good mediacenter. I feel its more you forcing options here.. you want to offer only one solution while I added an extra option. Sorry if I wen't offtopic with emulation stuff.. would have stfu if I'd known it causes this much stir.


No Stir    :banana: A1200 :banana:
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631174
..and encouraging illegal activities that I think is not allowed on Amiga.org

Amiga emulation for PS3 was posted and accepted and discussed as newsitem awhile back, so apparently it ain't so much of a hot potato for Amiga.org moderators.

I own legal copies of Amiga roms .. it takes a much bigger company than Sony to stop me lying on the sofa drinking beer while watching good old Amigademos :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 01:03:10 PM
@Hooligan

Nah,your as entitled to your opinion as I am, so maybe I should stfu :)

As for a butt ugly Amiga, your right that's going to be the problem, most second hand ones are a lovely '20 smokes a day' colour (well, maybe not the Amigakit ones).
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 12, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631184
Nah,your as entitled to your opinion as I am, so maybe I should stfu :)

As for a butt ugly Amiga, your right that's going to be the problem, most second hand ones are a lovely '20 smokes a day' colour (well, maybe not the Amigakit ones).


AmigaKit will be happy to supply a nice clean one for a few $100 more.  As for LCD display I suggest Svideo(If your LCD has it) Smoother than RGB (IE: not as harsh/jaggy)
Here you go: http://www.amigamaniac.com/RGB_to_PAL_NTSC_adapter.html out of stock but they'll be back....
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: A1260 on April 12, 2011, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631178
I'm not forcing anything, as a matter of fact it's pretty much the same for me if he wants to fill his apartment with buttugly hardware



Calling the A1200 buttugly hardward... that is outrageous!! what are you doing on an Amiga forum at all??.. jeeezus!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tone007 on April 12, 2011, 01:55:37 PM
This ain't ugly!

(http://cbmvax.com/jungle/a1200b.jpg)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631181
Amiga emulation for PS3 was posted and accepted and discussed as newsitem awhile back, so apparently it ain't so much of a hot potato for Amiga.org moderators.

I own legal copies of Amiga roms .. it takes a much bigger company than Sony to stop me lying on the sofa drinking beer while watching good old Amigademos :)


Hacking PS3's is illigal and your telling a fellow forum user to do it
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tone007 on April 12, 2011, 02:12:25 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631202
Hacking PS3's is illigal


..are you sure?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: tone007;631204
..are you sure?


Well I don't have a law degree but I do know if your caught hacking sony will ban your console from the PSN and take you to court and get injunctions slapped on you that prevent you hacking any sony product
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: bloodline on April 12, 2011, 02:16:45 PM
Quote from: tone007;631204
..are you sure?
Google Geohot :(
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tone007 on April 12, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
Glad I stick to hacking cellphones, then.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631202
Hacking PS3's is illigal and your telling a fellow forum user to do it


Would be nice to know which part of finnish law forbids me to modify hardware I purchased with my own money. Without knowing better I would even go as far as guessing the law precisely tells I can do what ever I want with my device.

I also have hacked tv playing videos and a hacked regionfree dvd-player so quess that makes me a triplepirate :(
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 12, 2011, 02:33:55 PM
The whole Geohot thing is very iffy. Sony are out to prove he was actively promoting piracy. As far as I understand it, they are trying to get him on that, rather than say he has no right to alter a piece of equipment he owns rather than licences. After all you bought your PS3, it's yours, not sony's. The network you try to play on, that's a different story. Anyway, a bit OT :)

@tone

Good job, iv'e always fancied doing that. You need a new case sticker though ;)
Hope you have blue LED's for that bad girl!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631211
Anyway, a bit OT :)


A bit? :roflmao:
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: nikodr on April 12, 2011, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631202
Hacking PS3's is illigal and your telling a fellow forum user to do it

And do you work for sony?

Are you going to arrest me for having a custom firmware 3.55 ?

Listen,noone here posted links to cfw or something,sony hunts users for doing cfw(and sony is not a good company btw for doing this)

,but since noone here offered tools or stuff to hack a console i dont see what is your problem.

If i drop my ps3 from ten floors down the floor will sony come and arrest me,for doing harm to something i bought???

What right do they have to stop people from doing cfw ?I see you are ready to post "piracy",but here NOONE did piracy,all they did was to post an emulator for a machine capable of running homebrew.

I am very carefully following the rules of the amiga.org i didnt post links to cfw publicly but I WAS the one who posted on the news the links for the uae emulator for cfw 3.55.

Unless you are a Sony boss or something i dont see any reason for you to have any problem with a user wanting to go to CFW.

Kind regards
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: nikodr;631230
And do you work for sony?

Are you going to arrest me for having a custom firmware 3.55 ?

Listen,noone here posted links to cfw or something,sony hunts users for doing cfw(and sony is not a good company btw for doing this)

,but since noone here offered tools or stuff to hack a console i dont see what is your problem.

If i drop my ps3 from ten floors down the floor will sony come and arrest me,for doing harm to something i bought???

What right do they have to stop people from doing cfw ?I see you are ready to post "piracy",but here NOONE did piracy,all they did was to post an emulator for a machine capable of running homebrew.

I am very carefully following the rules of the amiga.org i didnt post links to cfw publicly but I WAS the one who posted on the news the links for the uae emulator for cfw 3.55.

Unless you are a Sony boss or something i dont see any reason for you to have any problem with a user wanting to go to CFW.

Kind regards


you say all that as if I care
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: nikodr on April 12, 2011, 06:25:57 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631237
you say all that as if I care


Then if you dont care,quit from trying to make people feel fear in the idea of hacking their ps3.
Regards
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: brenry on April 12, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
Quote from: tasmanian guy;631123
For your tv output I suggest you get the Amigamaniac SVHS adaptor works great and flicker free on LCD TV's.

wow.. just wow.  If you are recommending ANYTHING other than a 15khz RGB display he might as well be sticking with WinUAE !  LCD / Plasma is ass for any retro system.

Get a C= 1084s-D RGB monitor and you will be in pure bliss looking at those sexy pixels.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: runequester on April 12, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
A proper 1084 IS very nice for an amiga display.
 
But they are also dying at an unfortunate rate, due to age.
 
 
EDIT: I apologize for posting about something amiga related on www.sonyapplecusa.org (http://www.sonyapplecusa.org) ;)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: brenry on April 12, 2011, 07:58:37 PM
Another option would be checking on craigslist (if you are fortunate to be in a large area).  NEC CRT Multisyncs are very very nice displays.  People snatch them up all the time on the arcade mame forums.  Usually you will find business' offering them for less than $40 for 20 inch displays and just want to get rid of them.  NEC multisyncs have RGB input.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 12, 2011, 08:19:18 PM
What happend with my thread ? :-D Hahaha...

Well - tomorrow Im going to Kolding (Denmark) 30 km from here. A guy
says he has a near mint A1200 with 3.1 and 6mb of RAM and a 2GB harddrive.

Someone said -> Who want an ugly amiga in his livingroom ? ...

Hmmm.... I DO !!!!!!!!!

Modern style with a little retro looks very nice ;)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Digiman on April 12, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
If someone creates a bootable ISO then fair enough, until then even I wouldn't bother with PS3.

Only the 500, CD32 and 2000 are a bit ugly, the 4000 has no style but the rest look nice to me :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 12, 2011, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Digiman;631260
If someone creates a bootable ISO then fair enough, until then even I wouldn't bother with PS3.

Only the 500, CD32 and 2000 are a bit ugly, the 4000 has no style but the rest look nice to me :)

the 2000 is beeeyouteeful!!!!

take it back! :lol:
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 12, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
@The_mud

That would be my fault, sorry. believe me it wasn't my intention, just wanted to help you with what experience I have had. I found it extremely boring to sit on PC running WinUAE but found a cosy way for me to run Amiga-software.
As Amiga isn't really up for office work anymore, I myself think it more of an retroentertainmentbox novadays.. and at least I want to have my entertainment in livingroom (or bedroom, if I get lucky ;-))

Quote from: Digiman;631260
If someone creates a bootable ISO then fair enough, until then even I wouldn't bother with PS3.


Eer.. why to have bootable iso when you can have it all on PS3 harddrive always, doesn't make sense to me. I actually went a bit further, I have a usb-stick with a couple hardfiles if I want to play with AGA.. and a couple directories of ADF's and exes so I can run a demo or a game in a few seconds when I want.

USB stick because its easy to add/edit/remove files when necessary, plus I didn't find hardfile on harddrive much faster. I could do the same via FTP of course but USB-stick is just so simple and quick for this particular task.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: minator on April 12, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631202
Hacking PS3's is illigal



Sony not liking something does not make it illegal.

If it was illegal Geohot would have been arrested.  He wasn't.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: foleyjo on April 12, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
If someone is going to suggest using a hacked ps3 then they should point out the downsides.

If you think it's not illegal to hack a ps3 because geohot did not get arrested then go ask him to hack any sony product and see what he says .
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: LordSpunky on April 12, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: A1260;631195
Calling the A1200 buttugly hardward... that is outrageous!! what are you doing on an Amiga forum at all??.. jeeezus!

Agreed - Like - Whatever

I am proud to have my A1200 on my TV stand it full view, and my A4000 squeezed next to my Mac......they are there easy to use when I want them, and people come and say.....'Wow! Yeah I remember them, you use that?'....Yeah wanna go?......I don't want to hide my Amiga's!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: LordSpunky on April 12, 2011, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: A1260;631195
@tone

Good job, iv'e always fancied doing that. You need a new case sticker though ;)
Hope you have blue LED's for that bad girl!

Ohhhh......BLUE LED's???? Yum!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 12, 2011, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: foleyjo;631202
Hacking PS3's is illigal and your telling a fellow forum user to do it


No it's not. Get a grip man...
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Claw22000 on April 12, 2011, 11:08:48 PM
A1200 all the way.  I have one and its the only miggy I ever wanted when I was a kid.  As soon as I saw it I loved it.  And considering you can get NEW expansion cards for it you will not be let down!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 13, 2011, 05:53:47 AM
Quote from: foleyjo;631280
If someone is going to suggest using a hacked ps3 then they should point out the downsides.


The only downside (if you can call it one as I don't) is that you are not able to connect to the internet.

Quote from: foleyjo;631280
If you think it's not illegal to hack a ps3 because geohot did not get arrested then go ask him to hack any sony product and see what he says .


Are you trying to twist this intentionally? Geohot's case is totally different compared to what we are having here. As a matter of fact there is almost nothing common between a regular user updating a firmware and the Geohot-lawcase.

For years now http://www.modpiiri.com has offered modchip-solutions and modded consoles on their website. You get guarantee for your purchase and they file their taxes (I hope). Wouldn't you think Microsoft or Sony would have done something about it years ago if it was that illegal?
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: kolla on April 13, 2011, 06:14:52 AM
Hacking a PS3 is just as illegal as hacking your Amiga. There is no fundamental difference between your Amiga and a PS3.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 13, 2011, 08:07:17 AM
By investigating a bit it seems internet actually works just fine on custom firmware, only PSN is not available. So downsides just went from one to zero.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: runequester on April 13, 2011, 08:27:45 AM
Im sure that will be a great help in helping the gentleman with his amiga
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 13, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
Enough already with the PS3 rubbish tricky to hack emulator please!

Besides PS3 is just plain ugly, makes the A500 look good :roflmao:
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 13, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;631378

Besides PS3 is just plain ugly, makes the A500 look good :roflmao:


Besides, I don't like the lineage:     ;)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 13, 2011, 01:24:29 PM
Quote from: Khephren;631417
Besides, I don't like the lineage:     ;)


Well my take on it is...

Sony used profits from their high quality reliable A/V product sales to muscle in on the console market after Nintendo publicly embarassed them with the SNES-CDROM project.

Microsoft used profits from their illegal monopoly on OS market and their overpriced substandard rubbish operating systems like Vista etc

So in a world of lesser evils I would rather Nintendo and Microsoft went bust and Sega came back and battled with Sony :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: tasmanian guy on April 13, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;631419
Well my take on it is...
 
Sony used profits from their high quality reliable A/V product sales to muscle in on the console market after Nintendo publicly embarassed them with the SNES-CDROM project.
 
Microsoft used profits from their illegal monopoly on OS market and their overpriced substandard rubbish operating systems like Vista etc
 
So in a world of lesser evils I would rather Nintendo and Microsoft went bust and Sega came back and battled with Sony :)

Severely off topic.   This is about the Amiga, not who has the moral high ground.
 
To the op get an Amiga 1200.  The End!
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 13, 2011, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;631378
Enough already with the PS3 rubbish tricky to hack emulator please!

Besides PS3 is just plain ugly, makes the A500 look good :roflmao:


I don't think its ugly, but its damn impractical. The one who decided the top should be in curved shape oughta be shot :laughing:

My A500 with turbocard and a harddrive making it about three meters long looked pretty geeky.. far away from stylish too hehe

Brand new A600 looked kinda cool IMO, shame there wasn't much inside to justify the purchase, especially the harddrive-version cost an arm and a leg. A1200 in A600 at reasonable price.. that would have been a winner.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: persia on April 13, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
And PS3 is still an emulator anyway.  Personally I've gone the other way, I use my emulated Amigas more now than my non-emulated ones.  I can put UAE up on the left screen, leave OS X on the centre one and still have the right screen free for other uses.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 13, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: TheMud;631258
What happend with my thread ? :-D Hahaha...

Well - tomorrow Im going to Kolding (Denmark) 30 km from here. A guy
says he has a near mint A1200 with 3.1 and 6mb of RAM and a 2GB harddrive.

Someone said -> Who want an ugly amiga in his livingroom ? ...

Hmmm.... I DO !!!!!!!!!

Modern style with a little retro looks very nice ;)


Superb TheMud. Agree 100%.
You will see I  and some stayed on topic for the thread.  A challenge for me.
Good luck with the new machine.  Let us know how you go plugging it into your LCD..:)

PS: Hello McFly !!! "No More Emulator for Me - Want an Amiga" then half the thread is on frikkin emulation.  Start a new thread if ya wanna talk about the PS3.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: hooligan on April 13, 2011, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: gertsy;631432
Superb TheMud. Agree 100%.
You will see I  and some stayed on topic for the thread.

Here, have a medal.

Quote
PS: Hello McFly !!! "No More Emulator for Me - Want an Amiga" then half the thread is on frikkin emulation.  Start a new thread if ya wanna talk about the PS3.

Half of the thread is about correcting wrong information by several people to several people. Don't stack all the shit on top of me.
Also I have no need to start a new thread about PS3, I'm happy running Amigasoftware by emulation, and TheMud will be happy running Amigasoftware by the real thing. No losers here, only winners. And hey, maybe some people even learned something about hacking.
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 13, 2011, 03:15:30 PM
A1200 all the way baby!
(iv'e been on topic some of the time....)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Franko on April 13, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
Whasa Emulator !!!

Sound like a cross between a big lanky flightless bird and one of em big green things wot lives in swamps with big pointy teeth and bite's yer head off when you stick it the water... :eek:

PS:Amiga's are real and emulators are mere imitations... :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: LordSpunky on April 13, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
It has to been an A1200.......tis everything you'll want.....
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: gertsy on April 14, 2011, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: hooligan;631434
...Half of the thread is about correcting wrong information by several people to several people. Don't stack all the shit on top of me.
.....


No shit stacking...And certainly not directed at individuals but to the off topic subject..
I'm Just looking to help TheMud.  It's difficult to find helpful responses when a thread is interupted with off topic information, no matter how valuable, it detracts from the experience.  Just ask Franko and Kesa.

I think everything that was said had merit and value.  Just not for this thread.  :)

Well "TheMud", did you get it.. how's it going..?

PS: Thanks for the Medal, But I want a real one from Karlos for being sooo! good.  It's hard to stay on topic...I know  :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: rvo_nl on April 14, 2011, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: TheMud;631132
Jebus they are expensiv now a days :-O

Actually, for all the fun you'll (hopefully) have, I'd say they're quite cheap :)
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: TheMud on April 14, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Wiiiii .... Got an A1200 today !!! Nice gift for the weekend. It has kickstart 3.1 - 6 mb's of RAM and some card inserted I cant quite figure out :-)


But its white as new and im happy... Hmmm... But with german keyboard... Have to switch the Y and Z ... Think I'll live :-D

Paid Danish Kroner 1.000,- ( 125 € )
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: Khephren on April 14, 2011, 06:50:53 PM
Well done mate! Keep us informed about how you get on with it. Good price too. Even if it's just  a ram card, it will double the machines speed.

One of these sites should help with the card:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/
http://amiga.resource.cx/
Title: Re: No more Emulator for me - Want an Amiga
Post by: runequester on April 14, 2011, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: TheMud;631630
Wiiiii .... Got an A1200 today !!! Nice gift for the weekend. It has kickstart 3.1 - 6 mb's of RAM and some card inserted I cant quite figure out :-)


But its white as new and im happy... Hmmm... But with german keyboard... Have to switch the Y and Z ... Think I'll live :-D

Paid Danish Kroner 1.000,- ( 125 € )


Awesome :)

Especially that it isn't all yellow and icky.