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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #104 from previous page: December 04, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »
The jumper should be on Auto.  I suspect it was on DIS because the previous owner it was mentioned had an accelerator in there that the drives were connected to.  I assume they disabled the SCSI boot function on the A2091 and were just using it as a ram expansion, or something.

Flip it to Auto and power up with no drives connected.  It might take a while because it's attempting to scan the SCSI bus, but eventually you should get a "Insert Workbench disk" screen.

Also try accessing the "both mouse buttons" early startup menu - just to make sure it's showing up there, and reported as working correctly.
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #105 on: December 04, 2014, 09:33:48 PM »
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The jumper should be on Auto.  I suspect it was on DIS because the previous owner it was mentioned had an accelerator in there that the drives were connected to.  I assume they disabled the SCSI boot function on the A2091 and were just using it as a ram expansion, or something.

Flip it to Auto and power up with no drives connected.  It might take a while because it's attempting to scan the SCSI bus, but eventually you should get a "Insert Workbench disk" screen.

Also try accessing the "both mouse buttons" early startup menu - just to make sure it's showing up there, and reported as working correctly.


Unless something is badly wrong with the drive, he should be able to pop in a wb3.1 install disk and it should boot the floppy, then he can use hdtoolbox to redo the HD,then reinstall workbench maybe.
 

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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2014, 09:43:19 PM »
Just a wild thought... is the A2091 in the first expansion slot left of the power supply? If not, insert there and try again...
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #107 on: December 04, 2014, 09:45:46 PM »
Quote from: mechy;779004
Unless something is badly wrong with the drive, he should be able to pop in a wb3.1 install disk and it should boot the floppy, then he can use hdtoolbox to redo the HD,then reinstall workbench maybe.

I have an A2000 that used to take over a minute to start the boot process.  For that first minute it simply looked dead.  While I attributed this to the accelerator (Supra Turbo28), I never did figure out the delay.  Eventually, it started booting faster on its own, or I have become more patient (NOT).

Point is Brian, if you think you have everything configured correctly, give it a minute (Unless you smell the smoke leaking out.  ;))
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #108 on: December 04, 2014, 09:47:37 PM »
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Just a wild thought... is the A2091 in the first expansion slot left of the power supply? If not, insert there and try again...


Maybe that was my delay!  Doh!
 

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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #109 on: December 04, 2014, 10:18:10 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;779002
The jumper should be on Auto. I suspect it was on DIS because the previous owner it was mentioned had an accelerator in there that the drives were connected to. I assume they disabled the SCSI boot function on the A2091 and were just using it as a ram expansion, or something.

Flip it to Auto and power up with no drives connected. It might take a while because it's attempting to scan the SCSI bus, but eventually you should get a "Insert Workbench disk" screen.

Also try accessing the "both mouse buttons" early startup menu - just to make sure it's showing up there, and reported as working correctly.

Hi with no drives attached and the jumper  on AUTO the insert  workbench screen comes up and if I go into boot options it said DFO Enabled ,and DF1 Enabled
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #110 on: December 04, 2014, 10:25:58 PM »
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Hi with no drives attached and the jumper on AUTO the insert workbench screen comes up and if I go into boot options it said DFO Enabled ,and DF1 Enabled

This machine has Kickstart 3.1 ROM, correct? What does it say under "Expansion Board Diagnostic" in the early startup menu?

Also, what ROM version is on the A2091? (two chips, near the top, labeled BOOT ROMS U12 & U13)
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #111 on: December 04, 2014, 10:29:45 PM »
Brian, just for the heck of it, if you're a member over at EAB, you can download and create a bootable ADF of SysInfo v3.24 from the Zone - you have to logon to get the file. It may help since your floppys are working.

Just asking again... what ROM version is on the A2091? Sorry if you already answered.
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2014, 10:35:46 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;779011
This machine has Kickstart 3.1 ROM, correct? What does it say under "Expansion Board Diagnostic" in the early startup menu?

Also, what ROM version is on the A2091? (two chips, near the top, labeled BOOT ROMS U12 & U13)

u12 v.592 288.c 390508-02

u13 v.5 92 390508-02
and Diagnostic both working
 and 3.1 roms
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #113 on: December 04, 2014, 10:47:44 PM »
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What happens when you set the board to auto with the hard drive and cable disconnected (nothing attached to the board)?

Hi the workbench  screen comes up
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #114 on: December 04, 2014, 10:52:39 PM »
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Brian, just for the heck of it, if you're a member over at EAB, you can download and create a bootable ADF of SysInfo v3.24 from the Zone - you have to logon to get the file. It may help since your floppys are working.

Just asking again... what ROM version is on the A2091? Sorry if you already answered.

u 12 v.592 288c
 39050902
 
 u13    39050802
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #115 on: December 04, 2014, 11:05:48 PM »
Okay, so, the 5.92 ROM's in the A2091 are pretty old. I can't remember the exact details, but it may be that they don't work with Kickstart 3.1. It sounds like the card itself is working, though, since it shows up in the Early Startup menu, correct?

You can get a set of the latest 7.0 boot ROM's over on Amibay for around $20, or they show up on ebay pretty frequently. Might not hurt to have "the latest and greatest".

Like the others have suggested though, download a copy of SysInfo and try running that. It might help avoid ambiguity if you're able to post pics of some screenshots (even just point a camera phone at the screen might help, LOL). ;)
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #116 on: December 04, 2014, 11:16:31 PM »
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Okay, so, the 5.92 ROM's in the A2091 are pretty old. I can't remember the exact details, but it may be that they don't work with Kickstart 3.1. It sounds like the card itself is working, though, since it shows up in the Early Startup menu, correct?

You can get a set of the latest 7.0 boot ROM's over on Amibay for around $20, or they show up on ebay pretty frequently. Might not hurt to have "the latest and greatest".

Like the others have suggested though, download a copy of SysInfo and try running that. It might help avoid ambiguity if you're able to post pics of some screenshots (even just point a camera phone at the screen might help, LOL). ;)

Ok thank you
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #117 on: December 04, 2014, 11:39:25 PM »
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Okay, so, the 5.92 ROM's in the A2091 are pretty old. I can't remember the exact details, but it may be that they don't work with Kickstart 3.1. It sounds like the card itself is working, though, since it shows up in the Early Startup menu, correct?

You can get a set of the latest 7.0 boot ROM's over on Amibay for around $20, or they show up on ebay pretty frequently. Might not hurt to have "the latest and greatest".

Like the others have suggested though, download a copy of SysInfo and try running that. It might help avoid ambiguity if you're able to post pics of some screenshots (even just point a camera phone at the screen might help, LOL). ;)


I found some more details.  Version 7.0 roms are needed for drives over 1 Gig in size.  This page has some more info including jumper config:  http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1161
 

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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2014, 11:43:23 PM »
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I found some more details.  Version 7.0 roms are needed for drives over 1 Gig in size.  This page has some more info including jumper config:  http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1161

Nice digging! I know for a fact that when I was trying to get mine going that I was using a 4GB HDD. Now I HAVE to dig out my A2091 and check the ROM version! :lol:
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Re: Amiga 2000
« Reply #119 on: December 05, 2014, 02:30:35 AM »
if you need rev. 7 roms i have some.