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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: lost_loven on January 28, 2018, 12:04:16 AM
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20-year anniversary edition of the Buddha flash is pre-ordered!!!
https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/buddha-ide.html#filter=*
Why? lol why not.. soooo the question is. what to do with it.
1) compact flash and adapter? what one to order of flee bay?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1XUseful-40Pin-ATA-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-Adapter-Converter-w-PCI-Bracket-Panel/112672486148?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D556c26c68f304b01bf6424d3567155b7%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D222169023768%26itm%3D112672486148&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%253Ac62d8728-038b-11e8-b078-74dbd1803718%257Cparentrq%253A38c5e7921610abc5a8f8227affde6318%257Ciid%253A1
2) DOM?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/TRANSCEND-2GB-IDE-PATA-FLASH-DOM-DISK-ON-MODULE-HDD-40-PIN-TS2GDOM40V-POWERCBL/232617930711?hash=item36291befd7:g:1dcAAOSwAAVZbws7
3)40 pin ide to sata?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/40-Pin-3-5-PATA-IDE-to-SATA-Hard-HDD-Converter-Adapter-new/282569364382?hash=item41ca72539e:g:bw0AAOSw5cNYYkA1
I dont have any old ide 40 hard drives kicking around so that would be out of the question. and I would rather us something that would't generate much heat.
Any ideas? links?
thanks :)
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The card already includes a 128MB DOM with the purchase. :)
Quote:
"We have licensed the OS versions 1.3, 2.1 and 3.1 from Hyperion, and include them on a 128MByte-DOM which is included in the price."
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The card already includes a 128MB DOM with the purchase. :)
Quote:
"We have licensed the OS versions 1.3, 2.1 and 3.1 from Hyperion, and include them on a 128MByte-DOM which is included in the price."
true.. but I want BIGGER :)
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@ lost_loven
thanks for posting! ordered mine:hammer: Love the fact that it takes DOMS directly on board as I'm totally done with the horrible reliability of CF cards as HD's on my miggies
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true.. but I want BIGGER :)
they're relatively cheap nowadays so just buy a bigger one;)
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Looking at getting one of these myself to move around between my different amigas. Will this still work with the A1000? Also, have they started shipping them yet?
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Will this still work with the A1000?
How does it work in a stock A1000?
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I think my DOM is a dud. I tried 4 HD's and 3 different cables and no boot. Even with scsi drive installed and not installed.. disconnected ext scsi cd rom.. pulled zorror ram and no go. ugh.. tried 3 different slots.. ugh. early start up see's card. sysinfo sees card.. show config shows card.. maybe try download buddha install disk and install it on my 3.9 set up ...
never surrender!!!!!
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Update. uninstalled xsurf also.. no go.. Then put all cards in and booted system (with scsi setup) with only a 1 gig ide drive attached this time and in hdtoolbox there was a 2ndscsi.device.. well low and behold there it was.
Still no signs of the DOM. Be nice to have some printed docs or a trouble shooting on a web site.
So what now to get a larger drive above 4 gig to be recognized, or get the DOM working. Isn't it suppost to auto boot the DOM (and tried with out scsi drive attached) to setup the drives?
edit: yes jumper is set for DOM
Help
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Return it and demand money back, it is a flawed product.
EDIT: oh wait, I was thinking of the ide4zorro board.
Anyways, open support ticket where you bought it.
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Return it and demand money back, it is a flawed product.
EDIT: oh wait, I was thinking of the ide4zorro board.
Anyways, open support ticket where you bought it.
You're pretty close, though. There are plenty of people reporting problems with the card not recognizing ANYTHING. Over on A1K, out of 10 HDs one guy tested, only 2 were detected. I've had a few not work either, and, Acill reports that nothing works with his either.
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well what the heck.. wonder if we can get a list of drives that does work!Out of 6 drives only one works and its a old 1 gig. I have a few sata drives to test once my ide to sata adapter comes in.. DANG!!!!! Anyone try putting the DOM on the first port and see if the thing boots?
I had big plans for this thing. JENS FIX THIS!!!!!
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well what the heck.. wonder if we can get a list of drives that does work!Out of 6 drives only one works and its a old 1 gig. I have a few sata drives to test once my ide to sata adapter comes in.. DANG!!!!! Anyone try putting the DOM on the first port and see if the thing boots?
Didn't someone mention that card had to be flashed with newer firmware right out of the chute (hmmm, can't remember now). Also, I think the DOM must be on the first port. Plus, did you try the iComp-installer, which complements the software package that comes with the 20-year anniversary edition of the Buddha controller?
This card doesn't need IDEFix97 does it? The drivers have been programmed by Oliver Kastl, who has set highest standards with the "ALF" drivers and the IDE-fix (later "IDE-max") software. The software includes the whole IDE-package from Elaborate Bytes: Cache CD Filesystem, Harddisk Autopark, CD-changer tool, CD-32 emulator (only for AGA-chipset).
Also, Caution: UDMA cables cannot be used with this controller.
And, Industrial-CF cards (with Adapter, not included) can be used. WTH kind of adapter would that be to go from 40pin to CF? Where would you even get this adapter (supposedly from AmigaKit).
And don't even think about using the TruIDE adapter - NO WAY will that fit on those 40pin connectors. WTH did he put 40pin connectors on this new card? Same connectors that are on that Zorro4IDE card.
So, I have never got any CF card to work on my Pheonix edition Buddha other than a 2GB. The only way I have so far been able to detect my Pheonix card using either HDToolBox or HDInstTools is to hang it off a Zorro2 adapter from my A500 LOL! Anyhoo, that's neither hear not there. But yeah, not good for a new product.
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"industrial CF cards" is pretty much a scam btw.
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Well here what works right now. Still no DOM.
Hopefully I can get something newer, bigger and faster soon on the go that works. A1k has some good reading there on this.
Scsi sd card is faster according to sysinfo.
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Feeling burnt on this.....
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What I don't get is, why didn't the DOM just boot (to at least one of the included OS's)? Or, are you supposed to install one of the included OS's to the DOM from the DOM (based on what version of KS Rom you have? Or, is the included DOM not intended to be bootable? I don't have one of these new iComp products with the included OS scheme.
@lost_loven
Don't ya just love using a HDD the size of a blimp on a new micro-sized product? It took me an hour to dig up a 5.25" IDE HDD from my rubble box to try out on the Zorro4IDE card! :roflmao: And it STILL didn't work! HA!
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What I don't get is, why didn't the DOM just boot (to at least one of the included OS's)? Or, are you supposed to install one of the included OS's to the DOM from the DOM (based on what version of KS Rom you have? Or, is the included DOM not intended to be bootable? I don't have one of these new iComp products with the included OS scheme.
@lost_loven
Don't ya just love using a HDD the size of a blimp on a new micro-sized product? It took me an hour to dig up a 5.25" IDE HDD from my rubble box to try out on the Zorro2 to IDE card! :roflmao: And it STILL didn't work! HA!
I assumed (I guess I shouldn't) that the DOM auto boots on the card, you use its installer for the workbench of choice (mine would be 3.1) and once in stalled remove the jumper and the DOM and away you go!
I wish I could even get that far but booting into my 3.9 install and using hdtoolbox there to see the drives (which I went into my COLD storage and rummaged and dug out and defrosted just to see and make sure the card part of it at least works!
I am going out tomorrow and see if I can get a ide2sata adapter (instead of waiting for fleabay) and see at least if I can get my 2.5 inch 500 gig sata drive working.
Feeling very disappointed!
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I assumed (I guess I shouldn't) that the DOM auto boots on the card, you use its installer for the workbench of choice (mine would be 3.1) and once in stalled remove the jumper and the DOM and away you go!
OK, so the included DOM is not meant to be a production drive? Just an OS installer? Maybe get another DOM for a production drive.
I went into my COLD storage and rummaged and dug out and defrosted just to see and make sure the card part of it at least works!
:roflmao:
I am going out tomorrow and see if I can get a ide2sata adapter (instead of waiting for fleabay) and see at least if I can get my 2.5 inch 500 gig sata drive working.
I did the EXACT same thing the other day! I shoulda took a pic - what a mess-o-cables! DIDN"T work either! :( And the 2.5" drive spun up and everything! I get nuthin from HDToolBox or HDInstTools. You will probably have better luck though since you can at least see your old IDE 5.25" drives.
Feeling very disappointed!
Me too! I've had my Buddha Phoenix card for like 2 years now! HAHAHAHA! I know it's not defective though.
So, I went out & bought another bare bones A2K (arrived today) just for testing so I wouldn't have to keep tearing apart the A2K in my sig! I hope the A2K test rig will help solve some Zorro2 card problems though.
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I hear ya.. The mess!
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The card includes a quick setup on paper. It says you leave the DOM in port 1, connect an IDE cable with HDD to the other port and care about the power jumper (!). then the DOM will boot, but it has a priority of -1 for not messing up your usual boot sequence.
Sometimes you have to check your already attached drive with hdtoolbox, check for LastDevice or whatever it is called these days. Normally hdtb will mention that "something has changed, do you want to save recent changes" iirc.
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Oh boy. I was going to post an unrelated question about something I was hoping to setup on my 3000 after I had the Buddha setup. Hmmm. Maybe I better be sure my new Buddha is working on my system first. Hahah. Film at 11. :)
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Found another drive today. (out stock at local store for adaptor).. It is 160 gig drive but 127 is seen. Really would like that DOM to work.. At ak1 site looks like Jens found a fix. So guess we wait till something (page 22 I believe) is official...
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Yep. Y'all got me to take a look at my card. No DOM boot love here. I tried quite a few different configs... no cards... some cards all cards...
I had bought a 32GB DOM to use with it.
With the "boot" DOM in IDE 2, and the new 32GB in IDE 1...
I tried with jumper 2 on. I tried with jumper 2 off and power connected to the new DOM...
no love
I'm also using 3.9 (3000 w/3640 super buster 11/7.1 Daughterboard)
Tried running the Flash update tool. That didn't work either. It said it found the card but... Error 20.
will find that thread.
fun!
thanks for kickstarting (!) me into action here.
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Hmmm. I just checked out that thread. My German is not so good. Maybe I'll just send a support ticket hahah. :)
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"industrial CF cards" is pretty much a scam btw.
No, not really.... There are some CF cards made with industrial use in mind. Some CNC machinery can run programs of CF cards (with proper equipment, SD cards as well) and some cnc machines even run os from a cf card. or close resembling cf card nand.....
And then there is someone trying to explain (https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-392) the difference...
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Hmmm. I just checked out that thread. My German is not so good. Maybe I'll just send a support ticket hahah. :)
Chrome translates on the fly.. not perfect but does work ... ;)
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62869&page=22
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Funny how things have gone from: "IDE4Zorro sucks because it has a lot of issues, but salvation is here in the form of new Buddha cards", to: "The Buddha cards have issues as well" :)
Anyway, here are couple of things to have in mind:
1. For using CF cards with the Buddha, the driver probably has to be patched by using this: http://aminet.net/package/driver/media/IDEFix_patches
After this is done, it should then be flashed to the Buddha card.
2. If IDEfix is to be used with the IDE4Zorro board + CF card, it probably needs to be patched as well.
3. Before testing various harddisks on the Amiga, it might be a good idea to wipe the drive clean by using DiskPart (or something similar) first.
4. As the storage capacity of harddisks have increased over the years, so have the power requirements. Is the PSU of the Amiga really able to power large harddisks? Maybe it can be a good idea to test them by using an external PSU first?
As for patching IDEfix or BuddhaIDE in a really easy way, there is the IDE-fix 97 AIO packs: http://rhz1.comlu.com/miscstuff/idefix97_aio.htm
Which can be downloaded from here: https://app.box.com/s/uuyi3kka5smiogq6vwsmn21folkxy983
Or here (ADF image): https://app.box.com/s/ny3is2k70oqdp8qo6phnkv6smz3p71kz
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@PanterHZ
This looks like some good info here! Thanks! :) I'm getting the A2K that arrived yesterday all cleaned up and will be ready to go back to testing and setting up my Buddha Phoenix and IDE4Zorro board. I'll be working from a real nice, uncluttered, clean A2K so should be fun!
@Blatboy
We'll get thru this bud! :)
@lost_loven
Jens will get it sorted... He always does! :)
The IDE4Zorro board - we'll see? :rolleyes: [strike]But I did get that kinda working in the A2K in my sig (has lots of memory stomping cards in it).[/strike]
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Think these would work with the new Buddha or the IDE4Zorro boards?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40pin-IDE-to-CF-Compact-Flash-Bracket-for-Commodore-Amiga-4000-A4000-Mac-PC/282845240303?hash=item41dae3dbef:g:qFEAAOSwnbZYDZc5
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Oh that would be mad convenient if they did. Those look great!
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So I have two of these, and not one of them works with anything OTHER than the included DOM. I can boot to the nice installer menu it has on that DOM, but thats it. I have about 25 drives here, all are not detected. Every CF adapter of various types are not detected, none of my IDE2SD adapters are detected with disks in them, so all I can do is format the DOM it came with, and I dont want to do that.
When you go into the setup you get an HDtoolBox like interface and it shows just the DOM. Its sad, because I had one of these back when it was integrated with a catweasel and it worked perfectly. I had it in my A3000 that was in an Elbox Mirage tower and mediator back in the day.
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Oh that would be mad convenient if they did. Those look great!
Well, I went ahead and bought two of these adapters - we'll see. I'm more interested if they'll work with the IDE4Zorro card. I'll probably get the new Buddha depending on how all these troubles get worked out. I see that Acill also has tried many different drives & adapters to no avail. :( I've been looking at these adapters for a while though so, pulled the trigger. :)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40pin-IDE-to-CF-Compact-Flash-Bracket-for-Commodore-Amiga-4000-A4000-Mac-PC/282845240303?hash=item41dae3dbef:g:qFEAAOSwnbZYDZc5
@blatboy
You're a professional musician with many big credits to your name including movies I see! And you're an Amigan - that's awesome!!! :)
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Same day I bought the budda I ordered these also ..
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/40-Pin-3-5-PATA-IDE-to-SATA-Hard-HDD-Converter-Adapter-new/282569364382?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
For maybe that 2.5 inch 500gig sata drive I have hanging around
For sh!tz and giggles
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1-2-Port-Slot-Micro-SD-SDHC-TF-to-CF-Type-I-Compact-Flash-Card-Reader-Adapter/222562074060?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=521403566529&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1XUseful-40Pin-ATA-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-Adapter-Converter-w-PCI-Bracket-Panel/112672486148?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
And a 32 gig Sandisk microSD card today just in case all works out :)
If all does work out I will put the sd2scsi card in the external case with the scsi cdrom and leave all Ide in the A3000. Then upgrade that power supply in that old girl..
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@blatboy
You're a professional musician with many big credits to your name including movies I see! And you're an Amigan - that's awesome!!! :)
Thanks man. I'm a professional musician and a struggling engineer. ;) Soldering is knitting for nerds.
@lost_loven
Your purchases are making me feel better... optimism! Jens will figure out the issues. :)
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Same day I bought the budda I ordered these also ..
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/40-Pin-3-5-PATA-IDE-to-SATA-Hard-HDD-Converter-Adapter-new/282569364382?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
For maybe that 2.5 inch 500gig sata drive I have hanging around
For sh!tz and giggles
Those are cool! I take they didn't arrive yet?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1-2-Port-Slot-Micro-SD-SDHC-TF-to-CF-Type-I-Compact-Flash-Card-Reader-Adapter/222562074060?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=521403566529&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
Interesting.....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1XUseful-40Pin-ATA-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-Adapter-Converter-w-PCI-Bracket-Panel/112672486148?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
I got RIPPED OFF!!! :(
And a 32 gig Sandisk microSD card today just in case all works out :)
If all does work out I will put the sd2scsi card in the external case with the scsi cdrom and leave all Ide in the A3000. Then upgrade that power supply in that old girl..
Which sd2scsi adapter did you get?
This one?
https://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Or this one?
http://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1314
Why does AmigaKit state that this 2nd card is Micro SD anyway? Anyone know if this 2nd card will fit in A590?
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Which sd2scsi adapter did you get?
This one?
https://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Or this one?
http://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1314
Why does AmigaKit state that this 2nd card is Micro SD anyway? Anyone know if this 2nd card will fit in A590?
I can chime in on this as I own both. I was only able to get the 1st one (rev 5) to work with my A3000. While I could "see" the SD card hooked to a PC w/the rev 6, the drives I created always had problems.
If I created a drive on the scsi2sd v5 card when it was attached to the Amiga directly, it basically worked (though kinda wonky sometimes)
If you have a way of hooking scsi up directly to a PC, like a SCSI PCI card... (I do) then you can hook the SCSI2SD to your PC that way and access it via WinUAE.
Or at least this has been my experience. I'm no master.
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Yup still waiting....
Next week local store might get in sata adapters so might pick one up then. $30cdn vs $4 flea bay lol oh well .. Impatience rulez! :)
I have this one V5
https://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Here it is in action :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGjQXTN2eQ
YOU GOT RIPPED OFF??? DANG!! Guess I can expect that also then!
Guess maybe I should order another from another supplier just in case.
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Yup still waiting....
Next week local store might get in sata adapters so might pick one up then. $30cdn vs $4 flea bay lol oh well .. Impatience rulez! :)
I have this one V5
https://amigakit.amiga.store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Here it is in action :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGjQXTN2eQ
YOU GOT RIPPED OFF??? DANG!! Guess I can expect that also then!
Guess maybe I should order another from another supplier just in case.
When I say I got ripped off, I mean I paid $17.00 each from "MyAmigaShop" https://www.ebay.com/itm/40pin-IDE-to-CF-Compact-Flash-Bracket-for-Commodore-Amiga-4000-A4000-Mac-PC/282845240303?hash=item41dae3dbef:g:qFEAAOSwnbZYDZc5 and you paid $3.00 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1XUseful-40Pin-ATA-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-Adapter-Converter-w-PCI-Bracket-Panel/112672486148?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648 (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1XUseful-40Pin-ATA-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-Adapter-Converter-w-PCI-Bracket-Panel/112672486148?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648)each! I think I overpaid! I'm sure that what you bought is exactly the same thing I bought so, I'm sure you're good to go.
However, I just noticed on the eBay link you posted that the seller says "[FONT="]This seller is currently away until 19 Feb, 2018." Plus the item is in China. Slow boat from Tuna Town! You don't have to wait that long do you?
I've been buying from MyAmigaShop for like 8 years, and although his prices have seem to skyrocket lately, his Amiga gear is always top notch! I haven't bought any of his recently expensive Amiga stuff though. I also ordered an A500 floppy drive with the IDE2CF adapters (the pristine A2K I just got had an absolutely trashed floppy drive & I want one NOW LOL) - good thing is, this guy ships FREAKY FAST and I know I'll have the stuff either Tues or Wed.
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I'm definetely gonna order a few of these though!
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/40-Pin-3-5-PATA-IDE-to-SATA-Hard-HDD-Converter-Adapter-new/282569364382?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648 thanks for the link on these! :)
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awh ok @Gizmo350 ... so I hope it works then the Cf adapter works..
As for the sata adapter understand I bought it in hopes that it would work.
in the past I bought a cheapo scsi 2 to wide adapter and it worked after some mucking around so I thought I would take the same chance.
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awh ok @Gizmo350 ... so I hope it works then the Cf adapter works..
As for the sata adapter understand I bought it in hopes that it would work.
in the past I bought a cheapo scsi 2 to wide adapter and it worked after some mucking around so I thought I would take the same chance.
Well, those IDE2SATA adapters you linked to are dirt cheap so no worries there! And they look a helluva a lot tidy-er than the old sata adapter I was trying to use. :) I'm gonna do a little ebay searching to see if there are any that will plug directly into the 40pin connector so no cable would be required... the search is on! :lol:
I was following some of your ebay links (which kept asking me to re-sign in) and realized they're from eBay Canada! I checked you sig.... YUP! You're from Canada! :lol:
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I looked at one today as a matter of fact for the direct 40 pin connector adapters and read some reviews that they are to lose to just sit on a board. (here is link look at review) so that kindda put me off..
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX23755
had it in my hand in said nah! I rather something i can mount.. dont mind cables.
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I looked at one today as a matter of fact for the direct 40 pin connector adapters and read some reviews that they are to lose to just sit on a board. (here is link look at review) so that kindda put me off..
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX23755
had it in my hand in said nah! I rather something i can mount.. dont mind cables.
I did find one on ebay..... have a look see.... there's more cheaper too...
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/PATA-40-Pin-IDE-Female-to-SATA-Serial-7-15Pin-22-Pin-Male-Adapter-Card-for-3-5/262117008357?hash=item3d076423e5:g:VtMAAOSwRTVaWByf
ebay search .ca
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS5&_nkw=40+Pin+3.5+PATA+IDE+to+SATA&_sacat=0
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No, not really.... There are some CF cards made with industrial use in mind. Some CNC machinery can run programs of CF cards (with proper equipment, SD cards as well) and some cnc machines even run os from a cf card. or close resembling cf card nand.....
And then there is someone trying to explain (https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-392) the difference...
Yeah, and it's all just nonsense. I am telling you as someone who due to guarantees and support agreements have had to use so called industrial CF and SD cards in various equipment. All experience says it's better, safer, cheaper and more convenient to use off-the-shelf SanDisk cards rather than whatever they ship as "industrial" cards to their OEM partners.
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Its sad, because I had one of these back when it was integrated with a catweasel and it worked perfectly.
Same here. So what happened?
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Yeah, and it's all just nonsense. I am telling you as someone who due to guarantees and support agreements have had to use so called industrial CF and SD cards in various equipment. All experience says it's better, safer, cheaper and more convenient to use off-the-shelf SanDisk cards rather than whatever they ship as "industrial" cards to their OEM partners.
The reason he recommends industrial cards is because all industrial cf's are set to fixed disk mode. the old buddha(and idefix iirc) had problems with non fixed disk cards,which is why he did the true ide thing.
Industrial flash use SLC flash while most other consumer/commercial cards use MLC.
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Industrial flash use SLC flash while most other consumer/commercial cards use MLC.
That's some time ago, though. MLC has evolved with consumer product demands, lots of testing and usage by the millions, today there is eMLC (e as in "enterprise") and TLC too flying around. What matters though, is what works, for how long, and how it fails, and it seems to me that many so called "industry" cards are (if not were) rebranded cheap-skate cards.
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Well, I went ahead and bought two of these adapters - we'll see. I'm more interested if they'll work with the IDE4Zorro card. I'll probably get the new Buddha depending on how all these troubles get worked out. I see that Acill also has tried many different drives & adapters to no avail. :( I've been looking at these adapters for a while though so, pulled the trigger. :)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40pin-IDE-to-CF-Compact-Flash-Bracket-for-Commodore-Amiga-4000-A4000-Mac-PC/282845240303?hash=item41dae3dbef:g:qFEAAOSwnbZYDZc5
I will consider this type of adapter to be among the best ones out there, because unlike so many others, it actually does have proper Master/Slave functionality. Not like those who have extra solder pads for another CF slot on the back, where the system will see this as some kind of non-existing Slave being present.
I'm pretty sure that you can attach both of your adapters to the same cable if you like, and they will work in perfect harmony.
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I will consider this type of adapter to be among the best ones out there, because unlike so many others, it actually does have proper Master/Slave functionality. Not like those who have extra solder pads for another CF slot on the back, where the system will see this as some kind of non-existing Slave being present.
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I was wondering... how come on some these adapters you see a jumper for 3.3vdc and 5vdc?
I'm pretty sure that you can attach both of your adapters to the same cable if you like, and they will work in perfect harmony.
I didn't think of that... good to know 'cause in the case of the IDE4Zorro you need to run IDEFix97 when using the secondary port - with both adapters on the same cable it would eliminate the need for that.
I got to thinking that these might work very well in an Intel DOS machine and even a Win98 (which hates USB!) machine where a removable media would come in very handy. I use my DOS machine as much as I do my Amigas. (Just got all the Tex Murphy adventures on CD!) :lol:
I snagged a couple of these too - just for the heck of it! :)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transcend-4GB-Vertical-PATA-IDE-SLC-Flash-DOM-40-pin-Female-TS4GDOM40V-S/302627811533?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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@lost_loven - Did you ever get the original DOM to boot?
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@lost_loven - Did you ever get the original DOM to boot?
Nope.. But got email from Jens to try cleaning my daughter board slots and I was waiting for the ok to try in other ide port. And the master slave switch on the DOM doesn't effect nothing apparently. Will try after work today.
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Cool. He said the same thing to me. I'll hopefully have the time to clean mine today as well. You and I have a very similar setup...
(A3000D, 3640, scsi2sd, buster 11...)
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Mine recognized the shipped DOM but nothing I plugged into second port worked so until this "flash" that hopefully will fix. If its CPL fix another piece of junk. I got unstable A2630 that is too expensive to ship back to Germany to fix.
I have to say I have 4 things from Individual, a C64 reloaded works great. ECS ScanDoubler works great. A2630 Piece of crap and now Buddha.
Not sure Individual computing will be seeing any more of my money.
:angry:
Doug
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Per EAB thread......
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=90081
Confirmed working:
Seagate, ST34321A, 4.3GB, XY454813, 3.41
Maxtor, 7171AT, D8069HWS, 170MB
WD, D160BB-00GUC0, 160GB,
Seagate, ST3630A - 958004-030, 630MB, CBMSJESB07, 22-22.06-A1
Seagate Barracuda, ST340016A, 40GB, 3HSA5VLW, 3.19
Seagate ST3290A, 260MB,
WD, 64AA, 6448.6MB, WM653 171 2986
(there's a thread on the facebook CommodoreAmiga page about this)
Designing the new Buddha with those 40pin connectors... did Jens really expect everyone to go digging for old IDE hard drives? :crazy:
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I didn't clean anything (will on the weekend), but did swap over the dom and no go there. Maybe I just wait for the firmware update and the Amiga JTAG tool to carry on.
Cheers
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Cool. I cleaned mine today but had to split the studio. I'll put it back together and test tomorrow. I have my doubts (being that you and I are having similar issues) but I'll give 'er ye olde college try!
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Thanks for the vote of confidence! I was wondering... how come on some these adapters you see a jumper for 3.3vdc and 5vdc?
It could be the voltage rating or something.
I didn't think of that... good to know 'cause in the case of the IDE4Zorro you need to run IDEFix97 when using the secondary port - with both adapters on the same cable it would eliminate the need for that.
I got to thinking that these might work very well in an Intel DOS machine and even a Win98 (which hates USB!) machine where a removable media would come in very handy. I use my DOS machine as much as I do my Amigas. (Just got all the Tex Murphy adventures on CD!) :lol:
I have seen these adapters being used for DOS and early Windows machines on several YouTube videos.
What really sucked about Win98 was all those blue screens telling me how to turn off of my PC + the absolutely terrible USB support. That being said, I recently came across some old backup CDs that may contain my good old Win98 setup. It would be fun to see if I could manage to restore them to a emulated PC.
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Mine recognized the shipped DOM but nothing I plugged into second port worked so until this "flash" that hopefully will fix. If its CPL fix another piece of junk. I got unstable A2630 that is too expensive to ship back to Germany to fix.
I have to say I have 4 things from Individual, a C64 reloaded works great. ECS ScanDoubler works great. A2630 Piece of crap and now Buddha.
Not sure Individual computing will be seeing any more of my money.
:angry:
Doug
I agree with you.
I thought about giving him another chance and purchasing this Buddha, but now I am glad I did not.
I tried to be fair and give him every opportunity to support the product (A2630) and do not think that I'm being unreasonable to want a resolution.
It is too bad, as I have many other products from him and they work fine.
Glad to see others are producing upgrades to look into.
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I can boot from DOM but for some reason when I attach my 'real' IDE drive to the 2nd port of the Buddha (jumpered as slave) it boots up to my WB..tried going into startup menu screen to disable drive as bootable but still same issue?
take out real HD and it boots up to DOM no problem...just ordered another DOM as the one I have for my 1200 is 2.5" and need 3.5" for the 2nd port in Buddha so hopefully that works and wanted to get rid of my CF HD as they always seem to go bad on me after a year or so no matter what type I use
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How about configuring boot priority on your partitions properly using hdtoolbox or some other tool?
You cannot disable "as bootable" in early startup, but you can tell what filesystem to boot from and disable devices entirely. Note that if you use OS3.5+, LoadModule and/or Setpatch will reboot again, and then not care what you selected to boot from (unless you go to early startup again).
I recommend you look at this program that lets you install many early menu config settings as resident from CLI (not just VGA mode):
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/bootctrl
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@ kolla
thanks for the reminder tip:) changed boot priority in HD Tool Box to higher value and then WB booted up normally with Buddha Install folder on it:hammer:
All fine now so just have to wait for my new 40 pin DOM to arrive to copy my WB partition on 'real' IDE HD over to it & all good!
I thought the DOM that came with the Buddha had some install files to go into WB but it's just a partition/disk prep util with WB 3.1 on it & some other stuff
..come to think of it I'm gonna keep that small DOM as my Boot HD backup since you can nver have enough of em
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That's some time ago, though. MLC has evolved with consumer product demands, lots of testing and usage by the millions, today there is eMLC (e as in "enterprise") and TLC too flying around. What matters though, is what works, for how long, and how it fails, and it seems to me that many so called "industry" cards are (if not were) rebranded cheap-skate cards.
true, i just use standard sandisk ultra or extreme cards in every amiga i own,none have failed to this day.
likely if they just rebranded a cheap card it wouldn't be set to fixed disk mode,removable instead but im sure it happens. some older SBC's i used wouldn't see removable cards on their ide but worked with fixed disk industrial transcend cards for example. mileage varies. there used to be a utility to change some brand cards from removable to fixed mode.
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true, i just use standard sandisk ultra or extreme cards in every amiga i own,none have failed to this day. .....
Me too.
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Anyone try the public beta yet? If so let me know how it went!
Google translate actually works sometimes on chrome :):roflmao::hammer::rtfm:
from A1k.org
Now. Is sometimes difficult when I am the last healthy person in the house; Woman and both children sick greatly reduces the available working time.
First public beta: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BuddhaSCSI.lha
Please with the flash tool V1.3 import. And please also test with old buddha flash controllers.
A little getting used to "old customers" exists because NO IDE doubters are supported anymore - we need this to have access to the interrupt-enable register of the individual devices. This also makes the unit numbers more intuitive: Master on the first port is Unit 0, Slave is Unit 1. Master on the second port is Unit 2, and Slave on the second port is Unit 3.
In addition, there is no difference between ATA and ATAPI devices at the device name: it is consistently only "buddhascsi.device". CD-ROM mountlists might need to be customized in two places: the device name and the unit number.
If you have a Picasso IV, please also test it: The old ROM was not compatible with the Picasso IV, because there was just a guru on power up. That should be gone now too.
I have to check the CPLD update again: I'm currently having trouble with a Silversurfer on the clockport of my test controller. I still want to find out if they come from the CPLD update, or if the part is just wobbly in itself.
Jens
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Designing the new Buddha with those 40pin connectors... did Jens really expect everyone to go digging for old IDE hard drives? :crazy:
Nah, just get an IDE-to-SATA bridge.
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Nah, just get an IDE-to-SATA bridge.
Hm, I have a few of those, and they are 44 pin.
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So, I cleaned my contacts on my daughterboard (and the connector on the motherboard to the daughter board and still no love from the DOM.
It doesn't even show up on the boot menu.
lost_loven - maybe you'll have different results -- If yours still doesn't see the DOM, I can't help but think that our similar setups may be something to consider...
:)
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So, I cleaned my contacts on my daughterboard (and the connector on the motherboard to the daughter board and still no love from the DOM.
It doesn't even show up on the boot menu.
lost_loven - maybe you'll have different results -- If yours still doesn't see the DOM, I can't help but think that our similar setups may be something to consider...
:)
Maybe its the 040? I pulled everything out but that. Maybe I will give a try on the weekend. I flashed card and didn't see DOM. Didn't see 160 gig drivenow either. But It did see 80 Wd drive but that was it. Could'nt partition or anything. wouldnt let hard drive install.
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I put my Buddha order in on Feb 8 with a request they update the firmware to the latest and "greatest". Just got notified it's been picked and will be packed and shipped.
Guess we'll see how it compares to the IDE4Zorro when it gets here.
Here's hoping...
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I put my Buddha order in on Feb 8 with a request they update the firmware to the latest and "greatest". Just got notified it's been picked and will be packed and shipped.
Guess we'll see how it compares to the IDE4Zorro when it gets here.
Here's hoping...
Was there any mention on the order that they flashed it? Wonder if they tested it. Let us know OK? :)
BTW, the IDE to CF adapters arrived yesterday. They didn't work with the IDE4Zorro on my A2K with either HDToolBox or HDInstTools. :( Gonna try next with the A500 w/Zorro adapter. DOMs are arriving today... gonna give that a whirl too.
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So confirmed. I pulled out my 3640 and the Dom is recognized and Boots up the Dom when selected an early start up. So just got to get the CPL updated to go along with the new Flash!.. Ugh
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So what's involved with getting the CPL updated? Good to know you're progressing! :)
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over from A1k.org page 27 .. (google translated)
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62869&page=27
from Jens .. .
We're working on a method of how anyone can really do the CPLD upgrade themselves: I'll give you (and other customers) a free cable that you plug into the Buddha and an Amiga port. Then you start an Amiga software that we also deliver, and the CPLD update is over.
We should deal with it next week. The cable is simple, can be built by anyone with a little soldering experience. And who does not have this experience, wait until we send the free cable. The fact that I have already released the CPLD upgrade is only "up-front" for those who already have this special equipment at home.
Jens
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So confirmed. I pulled out my 3640 and the Dom is recognized and Boots up the Dom when selected an early start up. So just got to get the CPL updated to go along with the new Flash!.. Ugh
I had a feeling it was the 3640. I'm assuming you told Jens? Seems the 3640 had gotten in the way of the RapidRoad USB as well in the past. Had to go out of town last minute, so I'm really happy you were able to do that test.
:)
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By the sounds of his reply on A1k he already knew but stated that the A3640 does work with the upgrade. ..
So that being said I took my scsi2sd card out of the A3K and put it inside along with the external cd-rom I have and using system like that for now.... making way and space for IDE drive and cf card in the A3K. Have a 500 gig sata drive sitting here ready for install and mother load dump of software on it..:rofl:
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Got my Buddha in today and started playing.
Gotta say this thing is finicky! Using a TrueIDE adapter some CF cards are recognized and some are not.
Sometimes the DOM is seen, most times it isn't.
Tried a couple of 2.1G regular IDE drives (yes a real 3.5") drive and one was seen, the other not.
Like I said. FINICKY!!!!!
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At least it's working... so AmigaKit must have flashed it for you. :) I'll have to go back and edit my previous post about the TrueIDE not fitting on the new Buddha card - I forgot the bottom connector is 40 pin. Good to hear it's working for you! :laugh1:
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Had some odd side effects along with the testing. Not sure if their related, but curious if anyone else noticed anything similar.
Sometimes when I inserted a CF and fired the machine up I'd lose all but about 256K of my chip RAM. Sometimes my expansion memory board wouldn't be recognized.
Only about have the time was the DOM recognized.
Not sure what any of the above means, but it is interesting. At least to me!
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Yo Curtis, what ROM is in your machine? Did the new Buddha come with a tool to check the firmware revision? Are these tests with your 030 combo board installed?
I still haven't received my 3.1 ROMs so I've been idle with my Buddha tests. I have a GVP 030 combo accelerator too so just waiting on ROMs to help you reproduce glitches. :)
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It's a 3.1 ROM. If there is a tool to check the firmware revision I didn't notice it.
Tests were with and without the 030 combo board that I have. Didn't seem to make a difference whether the accelerator was installed or not.
Yo Curtis, what ROM is in your machine? Did the new Buddha come with a tool to check the firmware revision? Are these tests with your 030 combo board installed?
I still haven't received my 3.1 ROMs so I've been idle with my Buddha tests. I have a GVP 030 combo accelerator too so just waiting on ROMs to help you reproduce glitches. :)
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Hey Curtis... I don't know who the manufacturer of the CF cards your using is but, I found out something very interesting! I'm now using my gutted old A2K to test my Buddha with (it's great). I just got 3 Transcend 4GB 133x CF cards from a guy on eBay. I prepared and partitioned one of them with HDToolBox. Worked perfect. Formatted the partitions. Worked perfect. Installed OS2.1. Worked perfect.
I also have a couple of 4GB 133x CF cards I bought about a year ago from Tiger Direct. I prepared and partitioned it with HDToolBox. Just acted really weird & couldn't correctly define a 2nd partition. Formatted the partitions. 1st partition formatted OK but second failed as bad & came up as "not a DOS disk" - but displayed correctly on Workbench - just too odd. Installed OS2.1 on partition 1. Worked perfect. Tried the whole procedure again on the Tiger Direct CF - acted even differently.
I then remembered I had trouble with these Tiger Direct CFs from the get go. I get to looking at the backs of the eBay CFs and the Tiger Direct CFs. They are different. The ones I got from Tiger Direct are FAKE! The REAL ones have a burgundy stripe at the top with the Transcend logo on it. And state at the bottom "Made in Taiwan". The fake ones have a rainbow stripe with no logo and doesn't state where they are made at the bottom.
This FAKE card media is a very bad problem! There must be millions of fake cards out there and telling the difference is probably impossible. And where can a guy buy REAL ones? Tiger Direct was always reliable before they got sold (look up why - you won't believe it).
I'll post a couple pics tomorrow showing the difference. Maybe someone here can shed some light on this and might even know what the difference is with the Transcend cards. But there is a BIG difference!
So, you might have some fake cards. Just a thought. It's just terrible that you can't trust re-sellers anymore. I mean, where can a guy go to ensure that he's getting a genuine product? Sad. :(
I bought these ones and they work perfect.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3pcs-4gb-Transcend-Compactflash-speed-133-X-memory-card-for-CF-i-DSLR-cameras/272658970188?hash=item3f7bbdb64c:g:q0IAAOSw~y9ZDKRR
These are just like the ones I bought from Tiger Direct (look at the back with the rainbow colors) & have been nothing but trouble & possibly fake.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-USED-4-GB-Transcend-Compactflash-133x-CFI-best-for-CF-cameras/261448178189?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49917%26meid%3Dd73b3ae049bd42a39a02d5c02455fc68%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272658970188%26itm%3D261448178189&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
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This FAKE card media is a very bad problem! There must be millions of fake cards out there and telling the difference is probably impossible. And where can a guy buy REAL ones? Tiger Direct was always reliable before they got sold (look up why - you won't believe it).
Ha! Omg. I never liked that store and after googling, am glad I've given them very little of my money over the years.
Here's one amusing story for ya:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/brothers-guilty-of-fraud-at-systemax-computer-company-sent-to-federal-prison-by-miami-judge
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true, i just use standard sandisk ultra or extreme cards in every amiga i own,none have failed to this day.
I used to use a lot of sandisk cards, we had terrible performance problems with cards from one of their factories.
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I buy all my sandisk cards from B&Hphoto video or adorama,been getting them there for 15+yrs and never a problem with a single card. i Use cf's in all my amigas (but the 4k with ssd) and have set up hundreds of machines over the years for people with no one reporting any problems.
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I buy all my sandisk cards from B&Hphoto video or adorama,been getting them there for 15+yrs and never a problem with a single card. i Use cf's in all my amigas (but the 4k with ssd) and have set up hundreds of machines over the years for people with no one reporting any problems.
+1 for B&H and Adorama.
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@OM
Yea.... Tiger Direct. What idiots! :rolleyes: Hope the brothers are having fun in jail!
@Team
I bought stuff from B&H and Adorama before! Thanks for the reminder! :)
Also, my AmigaKit order is out the door! The 3.1 ROMs will really help testing the Buddha... & hopefully I can help Curtis. :laugh1:
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I once went shopping at B&H on Manhattan, nobody had prepared me, lol
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Just wanted to add, all the problems I've had with the new Buddha Flash on my A2000 went away when I updated the CPLD with the latest firmware.
It works perfectly now.
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Great! I think Curtis needs to do that too - at least check his revision.
@gazsp If the BFlashTool V1.3 is loaded, will it show the current revision without actually flashing CPLD?
@Curtis Here's the latest flash tool for 20th anniversary Buddha.... :)
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BFlashTool.lha
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Great! I think Curtis needs to do that too - at least check his revision.
@gazsp If the BFlashTool V1.3 is loaded, will it show the current revision without actually flashing CPLD?
@Curtis Here's the latest flash tool for 20th anniversary Buddha.... :)
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BFlashTool.lha
Just remember the CPLD update tool is a different utility, named Buddha_CPLD. It comes in a separate archive on the iComp wiki. You have to use a cable you either make, or Jens sends you (at the end of March) to update the CPLD from the Amiga's parallel port to the header on the card itself. The card MUST be plugged into a Zorro slot at the time, else, the card will not be detected by the CPLD update utility, and it will error out and fail.
The flash ROM, instead, can be updated directly to the card over the Zorro bus with no cables, from command line.
Make sure, with both utilities, that when they ask if you want to proceed with updating, you press CAPITAL Y, else it will not start.
To update the CPLD, you need BOTH of these archives (one is the update files, the other is the updater):
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:Buddha_CPLD.zip
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BuddhaCPLD.lha
Update the CPLD *first* and then flash the ROM, else it doesn't work. After doing both of my cards, they now work as they should.
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Thanks for the clarification Kirk_M! :)
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Getting tired of waiting to... Debating making my own cable also..just bought 120gig ssd to toss in. Killing me looking at this thing lol
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Getting tired of waiting to... Debating making my own cable also..just bought 120gig ssd to toss in. Killing me looking at this thing lol
You should. It's not hard at all if you have the parts (I scavenged parts from old PCs). It took all of 10 minutes to fabricate.
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You should. It's not hard at all if you have the parts (I scavenged parts from old PCs). It took all of 10 minutes to fabricate.
Does it work better after the flash update?
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Does it work better after the flash update?
Yes, prior to me updating mine, virtually no IDE device I plugged into the buddha, other than the provided installation DOM, was recognized. Afterwards updating, it recognizes all the drives I had tried before.
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I've discovered that changing the HDToolBox Information to device=buddhascsi.device helps alot in getting the DOM recognized.
May be a no brainer to a lot of people, but I hadn't even thought of it until I got to pondering the typical GVP SCSI device needing that little change.
Still doesn't recognize all the cards, but it's a LOT better now.
Found one off-brand 4GB cf card that works perfectly in a PC, but Amiga thinks it's been write protected, even after I JUST formatted the stupid thing in my PC.
Oh well, I've got a 5GB Seagate microdrive that's working like a champ now.
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I've discovered that changing the HDToolBox Information to device=buddhascsi.device helps alot in getting the DOM recognized.
May be a no brainer to a lot of people, but I hadn't even thought of it until I got to pondering the typical GVP SCSI device needing that little change.
Well Duh!
Ha... j/k.... good catch!
Still doesn't recognize all the cards, but it's a LOT better now.
Found one off-brand 4GB cf card that works perfectly in a PC, but Amiga thinks it's been write protected, even after I JUST formatted the stupid thing in my PC.
Curtis.... check the revision of your firmware. I got to thinking... even tho you asked AmigaKit to "take care of that for you" the latest updates might have succeeded your order date.
Oh well, I've got a 5GB Seagate microdrive that's working like a champ now.
Operating correctly with your GVP Combo Card?
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Will check the firmware when I get a chance.
Yes, the Buddha is working just fine with the GVP Combo card. Mostly.
Only thing that isn't recognized is the RAM on the combo board. However, I don't think that's due to the Buddha card. I tried it without the Buddha installed and still no RAM.
Reset the jumper to auto-config the RAM into the Zorro space and I get the red screen at boot up saying it's bad. Move the jumper so the RAM isn't in the Zorro space and it boots up fine, but no RAM.
Any suggestions?
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Will check the firmware when I get a chance.
Yes, the Buddha is working just fine with the GVP Combo card. Mostly.
Only thing that isn't recognized is the RAM on the combo board. However, I don't think that's due to the Buddha card. I tried it without the Buddha installed and still no RAM.
Reset the jumper to auto-config the RAM into the Zorro space and I get the red screen at boot up saying it's bad. Move the jumper so the RAM isn't in the Zorro space and it boots up fine, but no RAM.
Any suggestions?
Hmmm, have you tried re-configuring the ram modules? Maybe a bad ram stick? Do you have any "other" ram in the system from an additional board? The only two additions I have in my test machine is the Buddha and the GVP card. I did notice one thing... when I use the Buddha with the GVP card, the machine takes about 20 seconds to boot and all the ram does show up.
Since I have 40MHz version of the combo card, is there anything you would like to check? You might want to start a new post.
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Yeah, might be better to start a new thread rather than hijack this one. Really hate it when people go wandering off topic.
And you're right about the L-O-N-G boot time.
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so this updater from Jens..do we need a cable or not?:confused:
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I've discovered that changing the HDToolBox Information to device=buddhascsi.device helps alot in getting the DOM recognized...
ah maybe this is all i need as I can't see one of the two DOMS in my Buddha right now BUT where can I find this buddhscsi.device ??? The installer only gave me the buddhaatapi device:confused:
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Yes there is a firmware update and also a CPL update with the cable that goes from the card to your parallel port
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so this updater from Jens..do we need a cable or not?:confused:
To update the CPLD, yes, you need a cable.
After updating the CPLD, you update the flash ROM, for which a cable is not needed. You can't do the FLASH ROM without doing the CPLD first.
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I read over on a1k.org Jens said it didn't matter what order it had to be done in.
Quote from Zick Doctor Show contribution
First flashing and then CPLD?
Or better vice versa.
Jens - This makes no difference.
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62869&page=27
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ah maybe this is all i need as I can't see one of the two DOMS in my Buddha right now BUT where can I find this buddhscsi.device ??? The installer only gave me the buddhaatapi device:confused:
Its in the ROM on the device, not installed. This is so it can be used to boot off of at powerup.
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Its in the ROM on the device, not installed. This is so it can be used to boot off of at powerup.
hmm wonder why it's not an option in HDToolBox? ..anyhow I'll juts wait for the update cable to get to me from Jens and hopefully I'll be able to see my 2nd DOM then...other than that it's working great as my main boot drive in my A4000
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hmm wonder why it's not an option in HDToolBox? ..anyhow I'll juts wait for the update cable to get to me from Jens and hopefully I'll be able to see my 2nd DOM then...other than that it's working great as my main boot drive in my A4000
Because you need to add it to the HD toolbox icon info.
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Because you need to add it to the HD toolbox icon info.
oh boy Paul can you please spell this out for me noob style as my brain 'right now' can't compute what it has to do with HDToolBox:crazy:
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oh boy Paul can you please spell this out for me noob style as my brain 'right now' can't compute what it has to do with HDToolBox:crazy:
Does anything here help? :confused:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18071
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=add+device+to+hdtoolbox&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
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Does anything here help? :confused:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18071
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=add+device+to+hdtoolbox&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
thanks for the info..tried the suggested tooltypes and yet only see the buddha atapi tool type so still seing only one of my 2 DOMS in mu Buddha? guess I'll just wait for the cable from IC and hope update solves it
anyone else have this issue and what exactly did you type into the HDToolbox ??
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bumpidty bump
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From what I read on a1k everyone who has did the updates everything has worked out.. I am waiting for the cable from Jens and my Sata adapter to come in. Then Deciding on the Sata SSD 120 gig or the sata 500 gig to install on ;) Pics and Vids will be coming!
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Just waiting for that cable from Jens now.. Any day hopefully!
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Just waiting for that cable from Jens now.. Any day hopefully!
+1, btw ya know if Leafs go out in 1st round vs Bruins I'm jumping on the Jets band wagon eh:pint::biglaugh:
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+1, btw ya know if Leafs go out in 1st round vs Bruins I'm jumping on the Jets band wagon eh:pint::biglaugh:
Bahah GO JETS! watching right now.. 4 -0 Jets 1st period.! WHITE OUT CITY HERE! Wild going down!
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@ lost_loven
:drink:
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@ lost_loven
did you get your cable yet? anyone else on this side of the pond get it ?
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@ lost_loven
did you get your cable yet? anyone else on this side of the pond get it ?
I didnt, but made my own and just reflashed it myself.
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I didnt, but made my own and just reflashed it myself.
cool..is it seeing all the HDs / DOMs now ?
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I haven't yet. Suppose to be any day now coming.
GO JETS!
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cool..is it seeing all the HDs / DOMs now ?
YES!!!! Even CF card adapters!!
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YES!!!! Even CF card adapters!!
that's awesome:hammer:
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been a few weeks....
@ lost_loven
did you get your cable yet? anyone else on this side of the pond get it ?
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YES! Arrived last Saturday !
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been a few weeks....
@ lost_loven
did you get your cable yet? anyone else on this side of the pond get it ?
From what I read they are mail out now.. I haven't received mine yet but hopefully any day! Then the hardware porn I will post! I also read that there is a disk provided to and both flash upgrades are newer than what is on Jens site.. So we shall see!
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From what I read they are mail out now.. I haven't received mine yet but hopefully any day! Then the hardware porn I will post! I also read that there is a disk provided to and both flash upgrades are newer than what is on Jens site.. So we shall see!
ok thanks just making sure I'm not the only one still waiting ;)
oh and GO JETS GO :drink:..those Knights are darn fast & Fleury is a 3X Stanley Cup Golaie but still think the JETS can power through to Cup finalo this year:D
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You're not alone. I'm still waiting for mine as well.
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I assume we that are all waiting are in the US or not in Europe? Has anyone got any indication it is in mail? My understanding I should be able to update the cpld on my BigRam2630 as well once I have the cable and get the updated code for it. Jen's has been 0-2 for my last two purchases so holding out this will correct the trend. We need a re-seller in USA who can support his products.'
Regards,
Doug
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I concur, as I am still waiting on a cable as well.
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How long have you guys been waiting? Let me ask you guys this if it wasnt an amiga company would you be this patient? its rather absurd at this point.
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In fairness to Jen's the cable arrived for me today. Now to try and mess with it. Does Buddha need to be installed?
Doug
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How long have you guys been waiting? Let me ask you guys this if it wasnt an amiga company would you be this patient? its rather absurd at this point.
If this wasn't a amiga company, I would be all out mad and looking for a refund. But also knowing its a amiga company and things do happen and/or gets over looked for older hardware I do have some forgiveness and I have other products from Jens that work great and his support has been very good in my eyes. He replies to all my emails and answers them timely. If this was some other bigger out fit like I said I would probably rampage.
I ordered pretty much day 1. I can wait, no rush, I have a ton load more projects on the go to keep me busy.
But the day the cable comes in, my poor wife won't see me for awhile as hide in my office with BEER in hand...
GO JETS GO!!!!!!!!
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my cable showed up today:hammer:
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my cable showed up today:hammer:
boooo wheres mine! lets us know how it goes!
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boooo wheres mine! lets us know how it goes!
I bet you get yours in a few days...I'm hoping to have some spare time to update my Buddha over the long weekend but with all the landscaping and honey doos ya never know
Go JETS GO:hammer:
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I got mine. :)
Tried it out tonight.
No love.
I get:
Maxretries exceeded
buddha-cpld-upgrade failed return code 10
That's when I boot up with the supplied floppy or if I boot up from the HD and run the utility via a shell. And yeah, I've attached the cable correctly and am holding the cable as instructed when the update program runs.
Oh man... haha. I swear I'm the Charlie Brown of the Amiga community. I feel like I'm always saying "Good grief. I got a rock."
Anyhoo, maybe I should try this with the 3640 removed? Red herring? Wild Goose Chase?
Curious how it goes for everyone else...
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Against my better judgment, I took off my 3640 and now, of course, the A3000 doesn't boot at all.
The 3640 was installed when I got the computer, so I'm not hip to how it was installed. Are there jumpers on the A3000 motherboard I need to adjust if I take off the 3640, or should it just work?
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There are jumper settings to go back to the 030 on board.. But maybe put the 040 back in and retry a few more times..Hopefully I get my cable in next few days. Over at A1K.org there was similar probs and quote" If necessary, try another Amiga, because that can also be due to a defective CIA. Or because maybe the pin strip is not properly plugged in the plug. So yes, keep trying until it works.
Or it's due to a broken cable - the likelihood is low with a brand new cable, but if you tear it sufficiently strong, you'll break everything. In the case, the wiring plan is public in the wiki; You can use a continuity checker pin by pin to check if the connections are still OK.
Jens "
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Thanks for the hot tip. I have a couple more Amigas I can try it on. Hopefully today if stars align.
:)
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I made the stars align ;)
Tried on the 3000, the 1200, and the 500. (I don't have the proper gender changer for it to work in the parallel port on the 1000)
The same thing happened (as before, see post 136 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=839579&postcount=136) ) on each setup... I tried multiple times with each computer.
I'm pretty sure I'm getting a good connection with the cable. One time on the 500, I held it more loosely, and I got a "bad connection" message, and the utility didn't even start. That makes me think there isn't an issue with the cable or the connection I'm making normally.
I'll sit back and wait and see how it goes for others...
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See http://www.l8r.net/technical/t-a3640.shtml (http://www.l8r.net/technical/t-a3640.shtml) for jumper settings.
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Have any other cards in? pull them? try different slots? Maybe discount the scsi drive when booting with the floppy so system sees nothing but. We have similar A3000D, hopefully we can figure something.
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Thanks for this!
While I don't know if I'll take out the 3640 for this use case... after reading this I'm now thinking I'm understanding the voodoo that's always in my SCSI bus.
Ok. That's for another thread...
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Have any other cards in? pull them? try different slots? Maybe discount the scsi drive when booting with the floppy so system sees nothing but. We have similar A3000D, hopefully we can figure something.
Somehow I missed your post here.
On the 3000, I took out all the cards and the scsi drives when I was testing.
Yeah. I'll hold tight and see how it goes for you. :)
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got around to doing the CPLD update and firmware upgrade in my A4000 and initially it didn't work so tried again putting steady pressure to one side of the card for better contact and voila update went fine and so did firmware update from disk:hammer: Now my CF card works on either port along with the original DOM but unfortunately a larger 8GB DOM I couldn't get to work still BUT no problems as I can use that in of my other miggies.
All in all very happy with the Buddha as I was having on/off gurus and constant resets with the onboard IDE and now with update boot up is guru/ reste free so happy amigan here:knuddel::pint:
@ lost_loven
sorry about the Jets we were cheering hard here but Fleury was just unbelievable and honestly deserves playoff MVP this year
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The upgrade was a success first try here is some pics and how I held the cable from boot up.
And that is with all my cards in including the 68040 still running. Now will try install the 120gig SSD and the 32gig cf with microsd adapter.. Stay tuned!
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Wow! That's great!
Man... I must be cursed. Tried again many times today and yesterday on the 500 and the 1200, using a multitude of pressure levels. Still no CPLD love.
Now that I have taken my 3640 off and put it back on a couple times, the 3000 doesn't want to boot at all. Another day in the life... [tangent: I wonder about those caps on the 3640...]
Anyway. I also checked the pins on the cable, and an initial check seems to line up ok. Though the "1" embossed in the cable on the DB25 side puts pin 1 on the wrong side. If you're looking at the business end of a male DB25 connector, pin 1 is on the top left, correct?
I'll try some more tomorrow. :)
I was considering soldering on the cable just to take that part out of the troubleshooting equation. I have a nice desoldering gun, so I can clean it up pretty well when I'm done...
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get it going?
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motherboard jumpers need to be changed back to use the internal 030 on the A3000.
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Great! I think Curtis needs to do that too - at least check his revision.
@gazsp If the BFlashTool V1.3 is loaded, will it show the current revision without actually flashing CPLD?
@curtis Here's the latest flash tool for 20th anniversary Buddha.... :)
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BFlashTool.lha (http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BFlashTool.lha)
Just remember the CPLD update tool is a different utility, named Buddha_CPLD. It comes in a separate archive on the iComp wiki. You have to use a cable you either make, or Jens sends you (at the end of March) to update the CPLD from the Amiga's parallel port to the header on the card itself. The card MUST be plugged into a Zorro slot at the time, else, the card will not be detected by the CPLD update utility, and it will error out and fail.
The flash ROM, instead, can be updated directly to the card over the Zorro bus with no cables, from command line.
Make sure, with both utilities, that when they ask if you want to proceed with updating, you press CAPITAL Y, else it will not start.
To update the CPLD, you need BOTH of these archives (one is the update files, the other is the updater):
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:Buddha_CPLD.zip (http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:Buddha_CPLD.zip)
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BuddhaCPLD.lha (http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:BuddhaCPLD.lha)
Update the CPLD *first* and then flash the ROM, else it doesn't work. After doing both of my cards, they now work as they should.
Hello there,
I just ordered a BUDDHA card for a A2000 that's been sitting idle for a year.
Done everything possible I could with HW for A2000 last time I had it out, so this Card appeared to be a interesting project.
I've got IDE Drives, SD Cards, Compact Flash Cards, and associate IDE Adapters, and other stuff for the Fully Loaded A2k.
From what I read thru on this thread there are some issues that need to be worked thru (in in post quoted), but otherwise it works.
Is that true?
Anything else I should know about from everyone's experience with a A2000.
Looking forward to the Card Arriving.
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You will get the updated version and should have no problems.. I just tried out a ide to Sd card adapter and works great. I tried various hard drives as well and no problems.. Don't bother with SSD drives.. I tried a 120 gig and no go.
Now I have gone from no space to way to much space! Its a quest to fill :)
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Against my better judgment, I took off my 3640 and now, of course, the A3000 doesn't boot at all.
The 3640 was installed when I got the computer, so I'm not hip to how it was installed. Are there jumpers on the A3000 motherboard I need to adjust if I take off the 3640, or should it just work?
Yes, if you remove the 3640 you must change jumpers to set cpu and clock instructions. The link provided in the thread gives you details. The a3k will not boot without these changes.
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I ordered and received my buddah from amigakit about 2 months ago. It boots fine with the DOM module and goes to the install screen. However, Any device i hook up the other other main ide port (yes with a 40 wire ide cable and the jumpers removed and DOM removed) puts my amiga in a non bootable state. Even though the wiki states the card works OOTB. I was hoping to use the 40gb ide drive from my old A4000 with all my files on it. Its set to master and just locks the machine... I also tried another older ide drive i had sitting around and same thing. Any advice? I forgot to order the cable for the jtag but the board should be loaded with the most recent firmware from amigakit right?
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get it going?
So, yeah, it's been a minute since I've gotten back to you on this... what, about 7 months? Here is another tale of idiocy and tangents:
As I was troubleshooting the Buddha and attempting to update the CPLD (more on that in a moment) I figured I'd take off the 3640 and attempt using the Buddha without it. It didn't go so well... I was so young and foolish back then in September. I realized I didn't know what jumpers to set on the a3000 motherboard go back to a non-accelerated situation. So, instead of doing the 15 minutes of research I'd need to figure that out ::), I aborted that approach and put the 3640 back on. Then the machine wouldn't boot. I tried reseating it etc etc. Nope. No dice. I did have a version with backwards caps, so I figured I'd have someone fix that. (Thank you @Acill ) Alas. It couldn't be repaired. The board was dead as a doornail. :( So, in a fit of financial irresponsibility, I picked up an a3660. So, now we're back to testing Buddha!
Ahem. Then I read the below (emphasis mine) from @kirk_m
Just remember the CPLD update tool is a different utility, named Buddha_CPLD. It comes in a separate archive on the iComp wiki. You have to use a cable you either make, or Jens sends you (at the end of March) to update the CPLD from the Amiga's parallel port to the header on the card itself. The card MUST be plugged into a Zorro slot at the time, else, the card will not be detected by the CPLD update utility, and it will error out and fail.
/SNIP
OY. Yeah. I was trying to update the CPLD without the card attached in the Zorro slot. My first try updating the CPLD correctly worked like a charm.
So, that rather stupid mistake sent me on a wonderful, expensive, and needless 7 month journey... I hereby deserve any hell anyone feels to throw in my direction.
*sigh* Onward!