Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?

[TheMagicM]

+1

Count me in for an extra copy of OS4 too!

Honestly... I'd buy a copy also.

[Jeff]

Can someone break this down as to what is can ACTUALLY RUN emulating a PPC Amiga?   I'm anxious to read the results.

Try taking a look at this thread over on EAB about page 11 or 12 for some details as to what is actually running or not at the moment.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74263&page=11

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74263&page=12

[amigadave]

Honestly... I'd buy a copy also.

Do any of you really believe that Hyperion is going to allow AmigaOS4.x to run on any emulator (if they have any way to prevent it, technically, or legally)?  It does not seem to be aligned with their market philosophy.

Edit:  Has Toni actually stated that any part of his work to include PPC emulation within WinUAE is being provided with the intent that it may some day be able to run AmigaOS4.x?  Maybe he is doing it only to allow the very few Amiga PPC software titles that were written for AmigaOS3.x and the Phase5 Blizzard and Cyberstorm accelerators, excluding AmigaOS4.x?

[bloodline]

That must have a been a loooong time ago.

I was running PearPC with OS X on my Windows notebook in 2005.  I used it until I bought a Macbook Pro in 2006.  Dolphin runs great in my MBP now (both in Windows and OS X).



Cheers!
-P

I ran PearPC for quite a while around 2004/2005ish, finally convinced me I could live with OSX

[Terminills]

Do any of you really believe that Hyperion is going to allow AmigaOS4.x to run on any emulator (if they have any way to prevent it, technically, or legally)?  It does not seem to be aligned with their market philosophy.

Hyperion doesn't have a leg to stand on legally to stop it.  At least in the United States.
See Sony v. Connectix

We could get in to the whole software patent issue with emulation but that's a whole new thread.

"There's no more questioning the
legality of emulation. Sony v. Connectix finally settles that issue once and for all. Both
developing and using an emulator are protected under the 'fair use' statute of copyright
law."

 As for technically I guess that depends on how accurate the emulation is.

Edit:  Has Toni actually stated that any part of his work to include PPC emulation within WinUAE is being provided with the intent that it may some day be able to run AmigaOS4.x?  Maybe he is doing it only to allow the very few Amiga PPC software titles that were written for AmigaOS3.x and the Phase5 Blizzard and Cyberstorm accelerators, excluding AmigaOS4.x?

Toni has stated he has no interest in making AOS4 run within Winuae however he is interested in properly emulating the hardware.  If the emulation is true to the hardware AOS4 classic will just run.

[bloodline]

Toni has stated he has no interest in making AOS4 run within Winuae however he is interested in properly emulating the hardware.  If the emulation is true to the hardware AOS4 classic will just run.

Then it will just be up to Hyperion to release an update/patch to detect that their OS is running in an Emulator and refuse to boot.

[Terminills]

Then it will just be up to Hyperion to release an update/patch to detect that their OS is running in an Emulator and refuse to boot.

That only stops future versions.

[danwood]

Do any of you really believe that Hyperion is going to allow AmigaOS4.x to run on any emulator (if they have any way to prevent it, technically, or legally)?  It does not seem to be aligned with their market philosophy.

Why wouldn't they?  Honestly, it sometimes seems like the Os4 community do everything they can to actively discourage new users.  

At least MorphOS 1.x is still downloadable for free iirc. so that may be available to WinUAE users.

[danwood]

Then it will just be up to Hyperion to release an update/patch to detect that their OS is running in an Emulator and refuse to boot.

Again, for what possible reason?!  Surely a new user to the platform and the money from OS4.1 classic is a "good thing"?

[xeno74]

It would be nice to see OS4.1 Classic in the Amiga Forever package.
I  think, this won't be a problem for the NG Amigas with PPC cpus. The new  Cyrus+ boards are very interessting and it's impressive to see a  Freescale cpu on the desktop board. For me it's more exciting to see  OS4.1 and Linux on the Cyrus+ boards.
But don't worry, I'll furthermore support Linux for A1-X1000. We have a lot of work to do for the A1-X1000.

Back to the topic.

I would pay much more money for an Amiga Forever package with OS4.1 Classic.

[TheMagicM]

Then it will just be up to Hyperion to release an update/patch to detect that their OS is running in an Emulator and refuse to boot.

Eh...then dont apply the patch.

[TheMagicM]

Why wouldn't they?  Honestly, it sometimes seems like the Os4 community do everything they can to actively discourage new users.  

At least MorphOS 1.x is still downloadable for free iirc. so that may be available to WinUAE users.

This is all just speculation.  But I suspect that OS4 would run if emulation is accurate.

Try taking a look at this thread over on EAB about page 11 or 12 for some details as to what is actually running or not at the moment.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74263&page=11

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74263&page=12

Nice.  Thanks!

[yssing]

And why would hyperion stop more sales of AOS4?

[number6]

Why wouldn't they?  Honestly, it sometimes seems like the Os4 community do everything they can to actively discourage new users.

I think comparing protectionism from the community with protectionism from the "owners" is 2 quite different things.
Let's not pin this on the devs/users/contributors/fans please.

#6

[eliyahu]

Again, for what possible reason?!  Surely a new user to the platform and the money from OS4.1 classic is a "good thing"?

absolutely! i'd pay double for a license that would let me run on winUAE. i'd finally have that amiga laptop i've been waiting on for so long.

-- eliyahu

[nicholas]

I wonder which will arrive first?  OS4 running on WinUAE with PearPC JIT or MorphOS 3.x running on QEMU with JIT that the Hungarian guy is working on?

Either way, bye bye overpriced and outdated hardware!