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Offline clusteruk

Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« on: June 03, 2017, 06:37:36 PM »
Just a short video about if I should upgrade my 060 A2000 with RTG to a Vampire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6M4STITMc

But seriously I am torn.

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Offline Motormouth

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2017, 08:53:02 PM »
I guess it really comes down to if you need mmu and/or FPU.  Also the video is HDMI out, and has some this could be a problem if you need D/A video (ie VGA).
 

Offline amiadudeorwat

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2017, 11:43:44 PM »
Why are you using a GVP HC+8 when you have the tekscsi.device in there?  I'm going to guess it's because you have the Tekmagic 060 board which has the RDB bug which was fixed a long time ago by Doobrey.
 

Offline mechy

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 12:17:10 AM »
Quote from: amiadudeorwat;826648
Why are you using a GVP HC+8 when you have the tekscsi.device in there?  I'm going to guess it's because you have the Tekmagic 060 board which has the RDB bug which was fixed a long time ago by Doobrey.

I was going to ask this also, but even worse he's still using FFS lol. the drive would work on the tekscsi as is and likely be much faster.
 

Offline Crom00

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2017, 03:36:28 PM »
Hey I have a Vampire 2000 (V500 and the Kipper cpu slot adapter) I also have a Toaster 4k and the Amiga 2000. If you can get my a disk image of that A3000 drive I can install it onto the Vampire and boot it off the Vampire ide bus and report back how it all works.

I also have the PAR (Personal Animation Recorder card and DCTV) in addition to a Tricaster TCXD300 HD unit. So I have similar gear to what you have.

I can can confirm anyting that uses the FPU wont work and you will want a 2mb agnus and the 2mb chip ram on that A2000.

The Vampire trounces the 060 and you get faster IDE and HDMI in addition to some other amenities. The massive speed increase speeds up even ECS graphics.
I've run IDE to CF Card and IDE to SD cards up to 32 gb without issues. The A2000 is now a prominent machine the sheer amount of slots and space to work with is great.
Vampire worked with every card I tested. ASDG8meg ram card, A2091 scsi, Live a2000, ASDG serial card, Commodore flicker fixer, ADSCSI 2008, DCTV, and PAR.
Scsi is no longer worth the trouble when you've got a Vampire.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 03:47:41 PM by Crom00 »
 

Offline Motormouth

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2017, 05:03:40 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;826661
Hey I have a Vampire 2000 (V500 and the Kipper cpu slot adapter) I also have a Toaster 4k and the Amiga 2000. If you can get my a disk image of that A3000 drive I can install it onto the Vampire and boot it off the Vampire ide bus and report back how it all works.

I also have the PAR (Personal Animation Recorder card and DCTV) in addition to a Tricaster TCXD300 HD unit. So I have similar gear to what you have.

I can can confirm anyting that uses the FPU wont work and you will want a 2mb agnus and the 2mb chip ram on that A2000.

The Vampire trounces the 060 and you get faster IDE and HDMI in addition to some other amenities. The massive speed increase speeds up even ECS graphics.
I've run IDE to CF Card and IDE to SD cards up to 32 gb without issues. The A2000 is now a prominent machine the sheer amount of slots and space to work with is great.
Vampire worked with every card I tested. ASDG8meg ram card, A2091 scsi, Live a2000, ASDG serial card, Commodore flicker fixer, ADSCSI 2008, DCTV, and PAR.
Scsi is no longer worth the trouble when you've got a Vampire.

@Crom00 This is quite useful to know.  I was considering putting the vampire (when I finally get it) in my A2000 instead of my a500.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 05:04:16 PM by Motormouth »
 

Offline AltRN8

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2017, 05:25:33 PM »
I read one demo saying the vampire couldn't work with boards that had memory on them since it wasn't able to autoconfig the zorro II slots. Sounds like that isn't entirely true. I've now got to decide whether to place it in my A2000 or with my A500 in a Bodega Bay case.
 

Offline Crom00

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2017, 09:17:31 PM »
dunno what to say... they all showed up in early startup control with the Vampire Gold2 core. Why you would want to use the slow 16 bit memory is baffling.

Quote from: AltRN8;826663
I read one demo saying the vampire couldn't work with boards that had memory on them since it wasn't able to autoconfig the zorro II slots. Sounds like that isn't entirely true. I've now got to decide whether to place it in my A2000 or with my A500 in a Bodega Bay case.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2017, 09:31:13 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;826667
Why you would want to use the slow 16 bit memory is baffling.


Some older applications require it. Don't work correctly with only 32-bit memory.
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Offline Motormouth

Re: Amiga 2000 to Vampire or not to Vampire with A3000 Toaster
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2017, 10:50:14 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;826667
dunno what to say... they all showed up in early startup control with the Vampire Gold2 core. Why you would want to use the slow 16 bit memory is baffling.


Bridgeboard ;)