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[Dragster]

This was a FRAUD. two people from here PAID to t his guy for the same board... :-(

It was too good t obe true it seems...

We're on claim process with paypal

Dragster

[Dragster]

You can see the "FRAUD on amibench" thread here:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14208&forum=1#193412

x56h34 and me paid for this board... what a shame to  see and be part of this in the amiga community :-(

Dragster

[Dragster]

Geez... Well, we will take LEGAL ACTION against him if he does not refund the money...


Dragster

[Dragster]

@Cyberus

Thanks for the suggestion. I will keep a copy of the page (a screenshot should do??). I've never experienced this before and I expect paypal to do something about it. I doubt my bank refunds me anything...

I have emails, bad quality photos of the board, but I don't think that's enough proof for the bank..

:-(

[Dragster]

@Lempkee

Thanks for your support. I hope this issue gets solved soon.. we will keep you posted, and guys, frauds like this are real and happen in the amiga world... take care who you buy from and make sure things you're buying do really exist, try to get as much proof as possible and never, ever send payments to hotmail (or such) emails.  I hope our experience and lose does something good for the whole amiga community.

regards,

Dragster

[Dragster]

@Cyberus

I wonder if the same applies with debit cards... :-(

[Dragster]

We believe he is in the UK, but we don't really know.

He could be anywhere... paypal accounts and hotmail email addresses can be obtained in many countries so... he could be laughing at us in another country already...

:-(

[Dragster]

@Lempkee

Thanks mate. We don't have the real address of this guy, maybe paypal does. We only have his/her paypal information as xf said before and that's all we know. We don't really know if he's in the UK or any other place. Paypal takes sometime to investigate (30 days), until then we don't know anything... I'd like to believe he's unable to reply emails or whatever, but the fact is that he got money from 2 different persons for the same board, nothing justifies that and it's as simple as he committed fraud! xf told me he emailed yesterday... I've emailing the guy since monday and no reply yet.  So.. he must have seenmy emails and has not bothered to reply... sadly you can register onpaypal with any email account, even hotmail's... :-(

Regards,

Dragster

[Dragster]

This is an actual email from him:

hi there,
you were right cant do ups on saturdays,will have to be monday/tuesday.
will have to go to another post office to do this as my post office doesnt
do ups,so ill have to drive to a bigger post office in town,and sort it
there.
ill keep you posted,sorry for the delay.
thanks
graham!

and last monday he replied this:

hi mate,
tuesday lunchtime ,didnt get time got out of work late,and stuck in traffic.
dont panic it will be sorted mate,ill let you know when posted and with ups
tracking.
thanks
graham.


>From: "Rangel, Daniel"
>To: graham williams
>Subject: RE: Regarding Your AmiBench Advert
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:50:09 -0600
>
>
>   Hi Graham... are you there???
>
>   What's going on?
>
>   Please let me know.
>
>   I'm waiting for the shipping information and you do not reply my
>emails... man, I don't want to start a complain on amibench.
>
>   Thanks
>
>Daniel
>


i sent money on Jan 8th. I have no email from him since last monday evening.

:-(

D.

[Dragster]

Hi:

I got information from Mark from amibench  of the original advert from this guy.. it includes an IP address.. could anyone help to trace him with this?
Or at least try to identify the ISP?

Any ideas??

Thanks

Dragster