>>It would break binary compatibility, unless that's why KMOS now sees intent to be important alongside AOS.
>If they want to run on mobile devices (as Garry has plainly said) then the only other option would be to port AmigaOS to Intent.
"mobile devices" covers huge set of devices, not just cell phones as we know them.
And I think KMOS is not stupid enough to try to push AmigaOS to current cell phones with current processors.
Especially, there's absolutely no room for AOS on symbian devices (no physically or otherwise).
After a few more thoughts: ARM CPU is a minor thing in the whole mobile space.
> But Intent is no operating system, it must be hosted. So running AmigaOS on Intent on the host's OS on the hardware doesn't seem "small and fast"...
Absolutely.
>ARM is more than suitable for mobile devices. That's why Nokia, Ericsson, Panasonic & co are using it right now to run SymbianOS on their devices.
>Symbian has practically a monopoly on the mobile device market - almost all of these devices sold uses ARM processors, there is no reason why this would change in the future.
You are talking about cell phones. There is no room for AmigaOS on any symbian devices. AmigaOS can not target Symbian devices.
(And companies you mentioned do a lot more than just cell phones, just a side note, but anyway. All of them already use and are familiar with PowerPC.)
ARM cores are integrated in phone media/telecom chips. Also MIPS and PowerPC cores are possible to be integrated if SymbianOS (binaries) is not used. If binaries are not used, there's no absolute must to use ARM either, and especially so with the enterntainment chip of the device. (phone stuff and JAVA stuff run in separate spaces, often on separate CPU/MPU)
> there is no reason why this would change in the future.
I think there is no reason for a cell phone to switch to AmigaOS. It would need to be something new...
>Compaq isn't going to start producing computers with PowerPC because it doesn't run the OS everyone uses (Windows).
Right.
>Just like Nokia isn't going to start producing PowerPC phones, because it doesn't run the OS everyone uses (Symbian).
Right.
Except that Nokia can get Symbian ported to any CPU, most (user) apps run on top of JAVA anyway.
And there is also no reason for Nokia to use AmigaOS.
And there is no absolute reason to use the bulk chip from philips that a lot of smaller companies use.
Asian market and asian cell phone manufacturers might have other interests, though... (there are those who do not use WinCE or Symbian, tens of millions of phones, etc.)
(I wonder what CPU does MyOrigo use (another phone, intent based, with Finnish origins) .... perhaps ARM, though, as one can buy cell phone chip with ARM from the local shop, grocery shop even.)
>If you want to make a new OS to run on mobile devices, then it must run on ARM.
If you plan to reflash Nokia (etc) cell phones to use AmigaOS, then yes. In practice it's impossible to make business with it.
Also. Several phones use more than one CPU. There might be one handling the phone side and some other handling PDA/enterntainment side.
>>And I'm pretty sure that KMOS is not stupid enough to go against Symbian&friends with their own cell phone OS, only M$ is.
>From reading the speech and the interview, this seems to be exactly what KMOS is doing! I'm as dubious as you are about how successful they can be....
Hmmm... Garry did mentione phone use several times. I thought it was mainly as an example and (only) as a one possible client/user of their mediasystem.
But ok. I'm not sure any more. It would need to be some new device, some new comer from asia perhaps, most likely not for European(/rest of the world) standards...
The competition is hard. Companies work heavily to try to differentiate from the rest as their advantage, find new sub niches perhaps, without loosing the mainstream.
I can not see how KMOS could gain any signifficant ground there... not anytime soon ... only remotely possible would be companies outside WindowsCE and Symbian users. How many there is? How big are their markets?
Interesting.
