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AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« on: July 19, 2003, 07:37:09 AM »
Here's a teaser: the AmiWest Edition of the Super Bundle for MorphOS is ready! Phoenix and Genesi have been hard at work to roll out the first edition of this multi-CD set, pictured below, to be debuted at AmiWest.




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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2003, 08:36:22 AM »
Sorry, horrible logo :-)
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2003, 09:06:20 AM »
Thought so, too, back then when I saw it the first time - but fortunately most people will download it from FTP anyway rather than getting the Superbundle physically.

Once they aim at the broader public next year or so, I'd suggest that Genesi changes the cover of the bundle, since I doubt it will fit the european and especially german taste, rather being kind of problematic maybe.
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2003, 09:18:15 AM »
Hei ikir!

It is not so bad...:-D  !!!

Thanks Andre! We like it and so does everyone at PhuperBundle@phinixi.com!  (Hi Senex...Andre is German as you know!  :-)  )

The CD set is really just a starting point.  It is our intention that the SuperBundle is a "living" collection of applications, like the AmiNet, to grow and grow into the future.  There will be core applications that can be updated via an installer online and "community" inspired applications that will be "certified" and released in the same way.  We will work with all the maintainers to insure that as MorphOS evolves that the SuperBundle evolves with it.  In the future, we hope we can establish a similar package of applications for every OS running on the Pegasos.

Here is an example of what to expect...

With Pro Station Audio, Bars 'n' Pipes on and DigiBooster Pro the MorphOS digital audio workstation idea is developing very well! Thanks to Alfred Faust, Martin Blom, and a comfortable license agreement with Mario we managed this nice package that will be included in the SuperBundle/MorphOS.

Again, the ultimate SuperBundle goal:

1) provide great applications for the Pegasos -- starting with MorphOS
2) provide updates
3) channel the community support and interest with a FTP pipeline to release new applications and updates.

That is the plan!

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill  :-)

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2003, 09:22:11 AM »
I think it looks very nice, It has a nice norman rockwell look... like an olympian ...  very nice... good to see it has a box!...
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2003, 09:45:22 AM »
:-D What's that over the starboard bow?  It's a bird! It's a plane! NO! It's Captain Pegasos!!! :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  I like the artwork, the packaging, and everything else about the superbundle.
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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2003, 09:55:41 AM »
Yes, olympian, that's why I think it might be not such a lucky choice - since the style of the cover of the packet itself (rather than this logo here) might remind some people rather of Olympia 1936.

Personally I certainly don't mind this (besides that it's just not my kind of taste), but if even I think the cover could be problematic because of this, then it might really turn out to be it later.

I can imagine that most readers here - not familar with the situation today in Germany regarding "political correctness" etc. -, can't understand why this cover could be not the optimal choice, but being an international and professional company, Genesi will have to be aware of the different cultures, politics, "published opinions" and tastes, etc.

So while I can really understand that for example from the US-american mentality such a "hero" is a pleasant choice, I just want to point out that even already in Germany, as US-americanized as it already is, it wouldn't fit that much many people's taste. I.e. while the actual case isn't that much a problem (not that many customers yet and most of them will download it instead anyway), I just wanted to remember Genesi to be aware of such thoughts once they'll also start selling to the masses in culturally really different countries.
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2003, 10:10:52 AM »
Dear Senex, thanks for the thoughtful concerns.  We appreciate your feedback and certainly do not want to offend anyone for cultural or historical reasons.  

Now, having said that one "hero" from the 1936 Olympics was Jessie Owens!  :-D  All will admit he was a SuperBundle of speed and energy!  :-)

To your point, you are correct in your suggestions, which is why we will position the Pegasos as a non-west-coast-USA product.  This will have broad appeal here in Europe and elsewhere.  Linux started here.  CBM was more successful here.  SMS messaging and the digital path to multimedia communication is blazing a solid path here.  Further, the transtion to digital terrestrial television will be accomplished here first.  DVB is now almost the universal choice in Europe...all said it indicates enormous opportunity.  Thus, we need to be very sensitive to each star of the constellation we are contemplating.  Thanks again for your thoughts.  We appreciate your concerns.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill  :-)

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2003, 10:11:17 AM »
so your saying that olympian (hero) = nazi? ... I dont think so...political correctness must be extreme in Germany if a blue clothes,  dark haired olympian looking character could raise anti-sentiment...
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2003, 10:25:49 AM »
@meerschaum

Not generally olympian="nazi" of course, but the style of art the actual cover is drawn reminds of the art favoured during the "thousand years" of the Third Reich.

@bbrv

Am always positively surprised and glad to see which broad knowledge the heads of my favourite computer manufacturer do have, be it younger history/sports like in this case or ancient history, philosophy, literature or other topics in other cases. Am agreeing with Saint in that other thread at MorphOS-News.de that I wonder where you get the time from to build up and run a company, educate yourself that much and play demoversions of games Epic is porting to MorphOS. :-)
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2003, 11:00:42 AM »
@Senex  :")  Thanks, have the Carpenter Shop building carts now...;-)

R&B %-)

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2003, 11:10:46 AM »
Damn, that looks bad. However came up with that idea/design?

Not really important if the content is good, but still...

Congratulations for releasing actual products...something of a rarity in the amiga community the last 5 or so years.
A.miga D.emoscene A.rchive: Relive the dreams...
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2003, 12:01:40 PM »
jesus...that must be the crappiest design i have seen in ages...sorry but thats how my eyes responded together with my brain..

also, FIRST impression is ALWAYS the most important thing...changE it..
Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2003, 12:06:50 PM »
The idea of having a MorphOS man is stunning. The picture is very well made also. My two suggestion for Genesi is to add wings to him, and/or make a female counterpart for him.

Yes, it's resembling to old Olympic times, and ancient comics. And it's better than what my artistic abilities permit, :-)

I'd love to have faceless archangels as MorphOS symbols though :-) (Have you seen the game: Celtic Legends?)
 

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Re: AmiWest SuperBundle Edition
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2003, 12:47:28 PM »
Personally I think it's fine apart from some questionable anotomical knowledge (the head looks small and the forearms are curved).  but I doubt most people will even notice, never mind care.

As for reminding people of stuff I think it'll more likely to be associated with Superman or such like, I don't think there are many in our potential market 67 years old.

I don't think there's anything Nazi abut it, it looks like a generic super hero to me.  If it had a swastika* then there'd be something to complain about.

*The swastika is only a symbol the Nazis picked up, it's been around for thousands of years and is thought to have originally come from a passing comet.  Read "Comet" by Carl Sagen for more details.