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Offline spirantho

Re: blender benchmarks
« on: February 03, 2012, 12:09:28 PM »
Seems to me like people are trying to point out that their PowerMacs using MorphOS are faster than the fastest AmigaOS 4 machine out there.

Which is probably true. It's also true that any modern x86 out there will blow either system out of the water. To outsiders we're all crazy for arguing over whose platform is faster, when they're both far slower than what everybody else uses.

It's also true that for myself I don't care, and I value my AOS 4 machines much more than any PC. Power is not important to me, it's how it uses it - and if the X1000 offers me a way to use it in a way that no other machine does, then that's reason enough to get excited.

@AmigaNG:
Nil illegitimi carborundum. In pragmatic terms, benchmarks mean nothing, except numbers. What matters is which you prefer, and no amount of figures and statistics can tell you that.
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Offline spirantho

Re: blender benchmarks
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 01:13:53 PM »
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I think those benchmarks are perfectly demonstrating where PPC hardware is going today.


I disagree. These benchmarks are a small part of the full story. They're maths-heavy (which is arguably the X1000's weak point against the G4 Macs), whereas in bandwidth-heavy apps it's a completely different story. Then you have to account for the fact we're only use one core in the X1000 at the moment. PLUS it's unoptimised.

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I am sure you wouldn't mind if X1K was winning by wide margin :-)


Well, yes, I would get some satisfaction from that. :) But only because I'm a bit tired of people trying to spoil the enjoyment of people who do want the latest AmigaOS 4 hardware.

I make no pretence about the fact that I prefer AmigaOS 4 - I do (and I do have MOS and AROS too). And I want Trevor's work to be rewarded, not rubbished. But even if the X1000 slaughtered every PowerMac out there I still wouldn't be going out of my way to point it out to MOS users.
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Offline spirantho

Re: blender benchmarks
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 01:49:59 PM »
Agreed - if you want to compete with x86 you'd need the same investment into the PPC architecture, which just isn't going to happen. Your best bet on that front is AROS, which is x86, of course.

But I think it's important that people remember that nobody ever claimed the X1000 to be more than the most powerful AmigaOS 4 machine out there - it's never been pretended that it can compete with 8-core i7s, because it can't.
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Offline spirantho

Re: blender benchmarks
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 03:09:42 PM »
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@ Tuxedo
I'm a big fan of OS4.  But I bet Blender crashes just as nice on a X1000 as it does on my SAM 440.


I would imagine it crashes about 4 times as quickly. That's progress for you. :)
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