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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #179 from previous page: October 28, 2016, 11:31:42 AM »
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As a side note, I always thought the naming of 3.5 and 3.9 was terrible. Leaves no scope for newer 3.x versions without resorting to increasingly confusing version numbering.


What's wrong with 3.10? And then 3.11 for Workgroups - aka built in Envoy? :)
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #180 on: October 28, 2016, 12:35:10 PM »
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What's wrong with 3.10? And then 3.11 for Workgroups - aka built in Envoy? :)

For a start, in 1993 Commodore disbanded the networking group which at the time had been responsible both for the AS225R2 TCP/IP stack (derived from 4.3 BSD Reno, if I remember correctly) and Envoy.

Development of both projects stalled and was never completed in-house. Years later INet-225 and Envoy 2.0 would surface as polished commercial products.
 

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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #181 on: October 28, 2016, 12:57:22 PM »
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Development of both projects stalled and was never completed in-house. Years later INet-225 and Envoy 2.0 would surface as polished commercial products.


Yes, at some point we were a bunch of students who tried to have the university sponsor us Inet-225, but it wasn't successful :) I did buy Envoy 3.0 eventually, which could use existing TCP-stack, but I recall a lot of hassle because of Envoy using different uid/gid scheme (with "nobody" instead of "root" being uid/gid 0? I don't recall...)
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #182 on: November 05, 2016, 11:55:52 PM »
Does anyone know if the Winbond W29C040 can be used to hold a Kickstart for the 500/2000 as a drop-in replacement for a 512k EPROM?
 

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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #183 on: December 31, 2016, 12:33:25 AM »
Hi everyone, i use 3.1 workbench. I want to know how big of a hard drive can use this drive size 2.1Gb and 2.15 Gb hard drive. But i am useing a gvp controller card my computer is useing a 68040 Cpu. How can i get a set of those disk?. Can you mail me the set to this address
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #184 on: December 31, 2016, 03:19:50 PM »
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Hi everyone, i use 3.1 workbench. I want to know how big of a hard drive can use this drive size 2.1Gb and 2.15 Gb hard drive. But i am useing a gvp controller card my computer is useing a 68040 Cpu. How can i get a set of those disk?. Can you mail me the set to this address
Kenny smith
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Rancho Cordova ca 94670 usa.

Theoretical limit for your boot partition is 4GB, under 3.1. You can have extra partitions, but the max limit for those is 8GB.

It makes sense to use a little less than the maximum limit.

GVPTools is what you seek, same software for all GVP SCSI controllers... BUT... some of them have 68040s, and most don't.

Even with a ROM upgrade to 3.9, you will still be limited to an overall maximum of about 128GB for total drive size.

It is a bit difficult to answer WHICH vesion of GVP software you need without more information about your setup - which Amiga? Which GVP expansion?

For instance, is the SCSI interface part of the 68040 accelerator card, or is a separate card?

It makes a difference, as there is no point posting links to stuff that is irrelevent to your needs.
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #185 on: December 31, 2016, 03:31:19 PM »
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Does anyone know if the Winbond W29C040 can be used to hold a Kickstart for the 500/2000 as a drop-in replacement for a 512k EPROM?

Chip can hold the data but will not physically fit, as it is not a DIL (Dual InLine) package.

It is available in TSOP and PLCC form, but not DIL, sometimes called DIP (DualInlinePackage).
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #186 on: December 31, 2016, 05:33:54 PM »
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GVPTools is what you seek


GVP FaaastPrep software is horribly outdated. Even if you can get it to not trash your hard drive, I think it freaks out with drives much larger than 1GB. Dude should be using the latest version of HDtoolbox, just like most of us... and not spamming on unrelated threads, lol. ;)
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #187 on: December 31, 2016, 05:47:32 PM »
Fast prep sucks rocks. Threw out the disk when I got my A2000 that came with it.
 

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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #188 on: December 31, 2016, 05:52:55 PM »
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Chip can hold the data but will not physically fit, as it is not a DIL (Dual InLine) package.

It is available in TSOP and PLCC form, but not DIL, sometimes called DIP (DualInlinePackage).


I have ten of them in DIP form-factor sitting here which would disagree with you.  In the TI world there is a special setting on the home-brew cart boards which are required to make it work similarly to a 512k EPROM.  My guess is the 500/600/2000 have the same problem and it won't be a drop-in replacement.  If no one else has tried it I will have to at some point in the near future.  I will make one using the purchased ROM files, though I would rather build my own.
 

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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #189 on: December 31, 2016, 05:57:02 PM »
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GVP FaaastPrep software is horribly outdated. Even if you can get it to not trash your hard drive, I think it freaks out with drives much larger than 1GB. Dude should be using the latest version of HDtoolbox, just like most of us... and not spamming on unrelated threads, lol. ;)


Good God, I haven't seen or used FaaastPrep since WB1.3 days.  Yeah, no, and yeah, as Gold Five says: "Stay on target."
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #190 on: December 31, 2016, 06:09:32 PM »
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as Gold Five says: "Stay on target."


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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #191 on: December 31, 2016, 07:36:27 PM »
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I have ten of them in DIP form-factor sitting here which would disagree with you.  In the TI world there is a special setting on the home-brew cart boards which are required to make it work similarly to a 512k EPROM.  My guess is the 500/600/2000 have the same problem and it won't be a drop-in replacement.  If no one else has tried it I will have to at some point in the near future.  I will make one using the purchased ROM files, though I would rather build my own.

Don't shoot the messenger if the datasheet is plain wrong.
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Re: Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"
« Reply #192 on: December 31, 2016, 07:38:02 PM »
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as Gold Five says: "Stay on target."

Shortly before being blown out of the sky, as I recall. :)

But yeah, OK, it started as a necropost and went pear shaped very quickly. Fair play.
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