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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: trekiej on February 17, 2010, 05:33:16 AM
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Here is an Amiga500 promo I never saw
Back then I lived in the country, we only had 3 channels for tv.
If you did not live in the city you had to get an expensive satellite system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaRkacQ-YMg&NR=1
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LOL i remember this one. We used to play it from a VHS tape at the BX on base to promote the Amiga computer.
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In 92/93 I did get a video of Amiga CDTV form a place in TX.
I wish I could find it.
It may be ruined by now.
BX, must be and Airman. :D
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In 92/93 I did get a video of Amiga CDTV form a place in TX.
I wish I could find it.
It may be ruined by now.
BX, must be and Airman. :D
How could they promote the CDTV?
"please buy this, we don't know what we made it for, but please buy it off us? We've got a ******** of them, they're all over the place, We have to wade through pointless wastes of engineering budget every time we want to use the coffee machine. They're like tribbles or something. Send help."
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wait they had the monitors sitting right on computer, did anyone ever do that? i never had a 500, i never saw any reason back then to change from my 1000, then later my 3000. i never did that with my 1200 though.
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The 500 is a fair amount deeper than the 1200, and some of the earlier monitors had fold down feet in the back to elevate them so the front half would rest nicely on the computer. It wouldn't make much sense to do it with a 1200 since it wouldn't save you much space.
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Hell Labs, do you have to be so ignorant in every post you make on this forum? The CDTV had some very well made and informative video ads made for it that explain the many uses it had as a multimedia entertainment system with the ability to easily turn it into a fully functioning home computer. Just have a look on YouTube maybe before coming back with comments you know are going to piss off most of the people on this forum (like nearly everything you have ever posted on Amiga.org).
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Hell Labs, do you have to be so ignorant in every post you make on this forum? The CDTV had some very well made and informative video ads made for it that explain the many uses it had as a multimedia entertainment system with the ability to easily turn it into a fully functioning home computer. Just have a look on YouTube maybe before coming back with comments you know are going to piss off most of the people on this forum (like nearly everything you have ever posted on Amiga.org).
It did nothing a 500 and cdrom addon couldn't do. Please don't defend that junk. I've yet to see anyone on a music forum go "kurt blowing his brains out was the right thing to do, it improved his popularity with goths 300% and gave his girlfriend further oppertunites to get in gossip magazines!"
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Hooray for ignorance!
The A570 does not give you 100% CDTV compatibility.
The CDTV obviously wasn't a huge success, but it was a forerunner in CD based home entertainment and was deliberately marketed to non-computer users as a home entertainment device, under the well-known Commodore brand. The technology was new and the market didn't really exist yet, and unfortunately for Commodore their name wasn't enough to make them fly off the shelves.
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Hooray for ignorance!
The CDTV obviously wasn't a huge success, but it was a forerunner in CD based home entertainment and was deliberately marketed to non-computer users as a home entertainment device. The technology was new, and the market didn't really exist yet.
It's not like much was missing. Maybe FMV? Good riddence, I've played half melted vhs tapes with better quality. and those FMV only games SUCK.
the market didn't really exist, and never would
There we go.
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Misquote me all you want, but the market did and does exist, albeit with far more capable technology. DVD player, CD-based game console, anyone?
..and hey, how about that stinker AppleTV!?
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Those aren't really the same at all. You can't really compare wierd ass faux-vcrs with **** like "plumbers don't wait ties" that they called "interactive movies" with either a games console or a whatever the hell the appletv is supposed to do. It plays itunes stuff, right?
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The "weird-ass faux VCR" could play both video and games, so it can be compared to both DVD players and games consoles.
The AppleTV was just thrown in as another example of a product missing the mark.
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Hell Labs, do you have to be so ignorant in every post you make on this forum? The CDTV had some very well made and informative video ads made for it that explain the many uses it had as a multimedia entertainment system with the ability to easily turn it into a fully functioning home computer. Just have a look on YouTube maybe before coming back with comments you know are going to piss off most of the people on this forum (like nearly everything you have ever posted on Amiga.org).
Cammy - going off like that is just plain sexy. lol Luverly new profile pic btw :)
BTW: I'm not "pissed" by Hell Labs posts, but it would be nice to hear a little bit of the background - as to why he feels the way he does about things, considering his retrospective banter which is probably more introspective than anything. Sounds like he might be in his early 20's though as he extrapolates much. A lot of younger internet guys are desperately trying to re-writing classic gaming and computer history that way. BUT... in his defense, CDTV was marketed horribly here in the States - almost nonexistent. In fact, Philips CD-i had an even better clue that way, but no surprise there really, considering the megacorp that they are. No, Commodore mucked the marketing up big time here anyway. Europe (for sure) and maybe even Australia might have had more attention paid that way when it came to certain products - but certainly not here in the land of the free and brave.
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I used to stop by a shop that had a demo CDTV, to play Lemmings after school. I also remember Indiana Jones and Faith of Atlantis on it. This was long before I became an "amigan" myself :)
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The "weird-ass faux VCR" could play both video and games, so it can be compared to both DVD players and games consoles.
I can't really say people would want to watch a film in OCS graphics, thats what, 32 colour video? And no record function. I don't really understand why people who didn't use computers would have wanted one, over say a vcr and a nintendo or something.
the land of the free and brave.
What, canada?
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I bet there's alot you don't understand. You make it very clear in your posts, keep it up, it's entertaining. The more useless crap you post, the more useless you appear.
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He said the 'N' word... he's definitely a Tween ;) :lol:
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How could they promote the CDTV?
"please buy this, we don't know what we made it for, but please buy it off us? We've got a shitload of them, they're all over the place, We have to wade through pointless wastes of engineering budget every time we want to use the coffee machine. They're like tribbles or something. Send help."
So very true. . .
Cammy - going off like that is just plain sexy. lol Luverly new profile pic btw :)
Have you been sleeping under a rock?
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I bet there's alot you don't understand. You make it very clear in your posts, keep it up, it's entertaining. The more useless crap you post, the more useless you appear.
Aww, did I hurt your feelings? Is the CDTV your friend?
Tell me, out of the box, what is the CDTV actually useful for? Not watching videos, because the video quality is terrible, not playing amiga games, because there is no floppy drive, and not playing those FMVB games from the early 90s because none of them are even remotley fun or interesting.
A foot stool?
The only good thing about the CDTV was when the stores were getting rid of them cheap, and you could assemble, with a bunch of addons, a Cool black computer with a CDROM drive. And even then a 500+cdrom was probably cheaper, and far more portable. I'd go as far as to say you'd be better of buying a used 1000 and a can of spray paint.
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(http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/cdtv1411.jpg)
Just keep digging yourself in deeper.
Most people agree it wasn't a successful product, but it isn't nearly as useless as you make it out to be.
..and no, I don't really care either way for the CDTV aside from the fact that it was a "cool looking black computer."
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So, i'm "digging [my]self in deeper" While the only thing you can suggest is to add a floppy drive? You have no defense. You can't even properly argue against my point other than "you're wrong, because i'm not telling you why you're wrong." You've lost. The CDTV is a peice of ****. Give up already. Nothing you say can possibly justify it's existence. Are you arguing just because you have to or something? Take those ***** blinkers off already.
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Could someone point me of a game besides microcosm that used the akiko chip?.
The cd32 is an a1200 with that chip`, and nearly all cd32 catalog was available on the 1200.
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LOL i remember this one. We used to play it from a VHS tape at the BX on base to promote the Amiga computer.
Speaking of the promo VHS tapes, do you happen to have any copies of the Commodore 64c, 128, and Amiga fliers on display at the BX during the same time period? I believe I have a bunch in storage, but no idea where or when I will have access to them.
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Are you arguing just because you have to or something?
Who's arguing? I'm just trying to see how many dirty words I can get you to say. I win!
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Who's arguing? I'm just trying to see how many dirty words I can get you to say. I win!
And yet I'm supposedly the forums resident troll.:roflmao:
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Youtube is great for thing like this! I just wish some copyrighted stuff would be allowed up, specially when it not available to buy anywhere.
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Youtube is great for thing like this! I just wish some copyrighted stuff would be allowed up, specially when it not available to buy anywhere.
Check this one out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPPIyQXA4E
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Beautiful box tone, how did you manage to keep it in such new (like new) condition?
Check this one out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPPIyQXA4E
Wow, they managed to milk all them minutes out of a CDTV?
Could have been so much easier, "Hey, it's an A500 with a CDTV front screen and a CD drive. Buy me now! . . . Please?"
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I bet that is the video I saw. It was on a VHS tape. VH who? lol
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Could someone point me of a game besides microcosm that used the akiko chip?.
The cd32 is an a1200 with that chip`, and nearly all cd32 catalog was available on the 1200.
gloom
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I personally believe the CDTV to be a piece of crap, unless you add a ton of upgrades.
But in favour, i must say it is the most sexy looking Amiga of all. I still remember to this day, that poster (was it a poster?) where it stood along with the black floppy drive, black keyboard and of course, a black monitor. It looked really stunning!
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A500 promo or cdtv promo? lol
The CDTV was a nice looking computer. I could have gotten one in Germany but passed it up. I guess it was a good idea after all. Maybe I could add it to my collection by the end of the year.
Do you think the CD32 was better, but not better looking?
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The CD32 at that time was not bad looking, just not so gorgeous.
And yes, the CD32 is far better though not better looking.
One thing i regret still, is that very few accelerators were developed for the CD32. I would have bought a CD32 if it had a 68040 accelerator available, instead of an Amiga 1200.
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Well there was the SX32 Pro, very rear and dear but it had a 68030 running at 50
Mhz, mmu, fpu with up to 64mb fast ram supported you would of notice very little performance different with a 68040 inside unless you got a top end version of them
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@AmigaNG
You are wrong :)
The slowest 68040, at 25 mhz is twice as fast as the 68030 at 50 mhz!
I would notice a huge difference!
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This technology has to be viewed on the context of the period. There was a lot of interest at the time in expanding the home entertainment value of computers to a wider less informed audience. The CDTV idea was way ahead of its time and suffered because of that. The technology was just not advanced enough. But like many things this was a journey to somewhere else, so for those that love their Commodore kit you can be proud of being part of that history. It is a shame that some choose to make comment in ignorance of the historical significance of all Commodore products.
I will say that my CDTVs are my least used of my machines though compared to other machines of that period the CDTV is a fine peice of kit. And please don`t use the N word ... :-)
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz40.htm
The link is to the CDTVs in the collection.
scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
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You know, I have been lusting after one of those black floppies for a long time. I recall the beige model was the 1011, what is the model of the black drive? I really cannot explain why I want one. That and a black keyboard. *sigh*
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You know, I have been lusting after one of those black floppies for a long time. I recall the beige model was the 1011, what is the model of the black drive? I really cannot explain why I want one. That and a black keyboard. *sigh*
Here's an idea for 'ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STWSTgfMruc
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Vinyl dye works amazingly well, too - like it came that way from the factory.
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Vinyl dye works amazingly well, too - like it came that way from the factory.
Have you actually used it on something before? If so, you should post some pics please :)
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@AmigaNG
You are wrong :)
The slowest 68040, at 25 mhz is twice as fast as the 68030 at 50 mhz!
I would notice a huge difference!
Well I had a 68030 running at 40Mhz, then moved on to a 68040 at 28Mhz and I only notice a very slight increase in speed, that the only reason I'm saying it.
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Have you actually used it on something before? If so, you should post some pics please :)
Not on any Amiga gear, but plenty of plastic and it works fantastic. No runs, no dust inclusions, no unevenness, just a perfectly dyed surface.
I may try this on an extra A3000 bezel (turd yellow edition), the only problem is replicating the logo.
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I've painted lots of Amigas, Commodore 64s and car interiors (lots) with Vinyl Dye. It's the best thing you can get in a can, just make sure it's a good brand like VHT.
Here's an A1200 - http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/2061/1_RebelsA1200.jpg
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You know, I have been lusting after one of those black floppies for a long time. I recall the beige model was the 1011, what is the model of the black drive? I really cannot explain why I want one. That and a black keyboard. *sigh*
Some floppy drives for you... I do like the black one with my CDTVs. The beige one maybe the 1060 by the way not sure... My 1011 is white.
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz29.htm
scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
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Hell Labs, do you have to be so ignorant in every post you make on this forum? The CDTV had some very well made and informative video ads made for it that explain the many uses it had as a multimedia entertainment system with the ability to easily turn it into a fully functioning home computer. Just have a look on YouTube maybe before coming back with comments you know are going to piss off most of the people on this forum (like nearly everything you have ever posted on Amiga.org).
+1 Cammy!
I am surprised to see you post something so harsh (but true) on these forums. It is usually me or one of the other hot headed members here that get fed up with someone who repeatedly posts such ignorant messages on the forums and posts a flaming message aimed at the offender. I have been posting much less often though and restraining myself from voicing my opinions as much as possible since the first of the year. I fear that even the A.org forums are getting infected by young disrespectful computer users that feel they can post anything they want and they get some kind of kick from making other users angry, or they get on a power trip from putting others down from the safe distance of their keyboard without fear of retaliation. Not that all offenders are young, many older but immature users have the same sick mind set.
It is this growing frequency of bad behavior that has me spending less and less time on any forums, as the lack of courtesy and common sense is sickening to see.
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+1 Cammy!
It is this growing frequency of bad behavior that has me spending less and less time on any forums, as the lack of courtesy and common sense is sickening to see.
Its not necessarily an age thing, I think its the txt/facebook culture where anything goes frankly and no one bats an eyelid. I hear all sorts of things these days where Taboo has been replaced with F*ck u and with that is the "Open" txt bullying conversations that has begun with the young I suppose but now seems to turn 10,000 facebook friends into sexual/gender/power leverage.
How many times has anyone heard of someone bitching via facebook and drag the skeletons right into view for all to see and later you hear, some deal/relationship/Job/promotion etc somehow miraculously happens, when on the face of it, the person who started it should have by old skool been ostracised and made an outcast.
The clique has grown up and lives on the internet. Instead of round the beer table.
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I for one have zero use for facebook, twitter et al. I've been on the net so long that it's all kind of "been there-done that" since the invent of AmIRC!! Everyone treats it like it's never been done before -
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+1 Cammy!
I am surprised to see you post something so harsh (but true) on these forums. It is usually me or one of the other hot headed members here that get fed up with someone who repeatedly posts such ignorant messages on the forums and posts a flaming message aimed at the offender. I have been posting much less often though and restraining myself from voicing my opinions as much as possible since the first of the year. I fear that even the A.org forums are getting infected by young disrespectful computer users that feel they can post anything they want and they get some kind of kick from making other users angry, or they get on a power trip from putting others down from the safe distance of their keyboard without fear of retaliation. Not that all offenders are young, many older but immature users have the same sick mind set.
It is this growing frequency of bad behavior that has me spending less and less time on any forums, as the lack of courtesy and common sense is sickening to see.
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:roflmao:
Sorry for OT i do not have a CDTV but it looks great imo and i know
it was better than the laser disc :laughing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDz4epLULQ&NR=1
P.S. Ups i finally figured it out little hell-boy!
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How could they promote the CDTV?
"please buy this, we don't know what we made it for, but please buy it off us? We've got a ******** of them, they're all over the place, We have to wade through pointless wastes of engineering budget every time we want to use the coffee machine. They're like tribbles or something. Send help."
Yeah, its kind of like the Apple Newton. An idea way before its time.
Philips CDI also failed...
I suppose apple should have just given up on handhelds after the Newton and concentrated efforts on just computers.
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I can't really say people would want to watch a film in OCS graphics, thats what, 32 colour video? And no record function. I don't really understand why people who didn't use computers would have wanted one, over say a vcr and a nintendo or something.
What, canada?
From CDXL Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDXL
In an era shortly after the introduction of CD-ROM drives and before low cost MPEG decoding hardware became available the CDXL format was created primarily for the Amiga CDTV to permit playback of video from CD-ROM. CDXL was tailored for the Amiga chipset and took advantage of DMA transfers and relied little on the CPU [2]. As a result CDXL could only support weak video compression and therefore relatively low video resolutions and moderate frame rates.
The CDXL format initially allowed playback of up to 24 frames per second with up to 4096 colors encoded in HAM-6. Audio support allowed for 8-bit mono or stereo sound.
Here is an example of 24FPS HAM 6 Video. This is a Minimig, but you get the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWLtSWXtD8
I'm sure it supported EHB (64 color mode) which on a 320x200 screen, might not look too bad...
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Check this one out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPPIyQXA4E
Cammy,
CDTV was a totally cool concept. CDs were a major leap in storage technology!
The encyclopedia stuff on CD was a really cool idea before its time. When I was in school my family had about a 60% complete encyclopedia set. Past like "P" you were screwed - Except for we had "W" for some reason.
I'd of rather had a CDTV :)