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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: amigakit on June 07, 2010, 09:01:27 PM

Title: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: amigakit on June 07, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
AmigaKit.com is pleased to announce immediate availability of ZorRAM

ZorRAM is a new modern memory card for Zorro 3 Amiga 3000(T) and 4000(T) computers.

The new card can be supplied with 128MB of SDRAM memory as standard and 256MB of SDRAM memory as an product option.

It features a low profile Zorro III expansion card and has full Autoconfig support.


Direct Product Links:

USA:
http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=958

UK:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/GBP.php?url=product_info.php?products_id=958

Europe:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/EUR.php?url=product_info.php?products_id=958

Canada:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/CAD.php?url=product_info.php?products_id=958

AmigaKit.com - Amiga Computer Store
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: LoadWB on June 07, 2010, 11:22:06 PM
Will the CyberStorms support 1GB of memory??  I mean, that's only around $750, ya know :)

Before anyone says anything snide, I do lament that things have to be so pricey for our beloved hobby.  But then, how many loves are inexpensive? heheheh  I am pretty happy to see new things like this come out for Amiga, even though I will not be affording one for a while. :)
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: TheGoose on June 07, 2010, 11:50:29 PM
Damn! More stuff I want!
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: Minuous on June 08, 2010, 12:35:48 AM
Does anyone know the Manufacturer and Product IDs for this board, I will add them to the registry?
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: spihunter on June 08, 2010, 02:04:24 AM
Yea Goose! You need one of those 128MB ones for your A3000 that I'm using!
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: TheGoose on June 08, 2010, 02:53:03 AM
Quote from: spihunter;563411
Yea Goose! You need one of those 128MB ones for your A3000 that I'm using!


LOL ! yep, you're right. Hope it's running ok now, I think that is a sweet machine.
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: jsixis on June 08, 2010, 04:24:36 AM
good price, now if I had a reason for that much ram
alas, I'm not a power user anymore
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: Colmiga on June 08, 2010, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;563382
Will the CyberStorms support 1GB of memory??  I mean, that's only around $750, ya know :)


Heh, if only it was possible :). The Cyberstorm boards are limited to 128MB as that's the memory window available to CPU Boards on the A3000/A4000 fast slot.

Can't wait to get my ZorRAM now they are available. Ordered mine just after they were announced. Been very patient :)
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: omnicron10 on June 08, 2010, 06:24:19 AM
To: Minuous

I see in this post on english amiga board a screen shot with 4 boards in the machine.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52704

Prod=3643/32($E3B/$20)

Is that what you are looking for?
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: amigakit on June 08, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
The ZorRAM product ID is listed on the product page on our webstore

ZorRAM is compatible with the Cyberstorm but we have only tested 2x cards with it so far..

However, just out of curiosity, we previously tested 4x ZorRAM 256MB installed together with a 4060T accelerator (68060) with 128MB SIMM memory- here is the result:

http://www.amigakit.com/images/4xzorram-4060t.jpg
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: Piru on June 08, 2010, 01:19:01 PM
Quote from: amigakit;563487

http://www.amigakit.com/images/4xzorram-4060t.jpg

Could you please provide the full bustest output as requested before?
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: Zac67 on June 08, 2010, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: Piru;563489
Could you please provide the full bustest output as requested before?


Would be very interested in that as well... ;)
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: Minuous on June 08, 2010, 06:41:26 PM
I can't see anywhere the name of the manufacturer on any of the product announcements or threads...?

In the meantime I will use AmigaKit as the manufacturer. http://amigan.1emu.net/reg/manuf.html has been updated accordingly.
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: mboehmer_e3b on June 09, 2010, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: Minuous;563548
I can't see anywhere the name of the manufacturer on any of the product announcements or threads...?


Hint: decimal 3643 is 0x0E3B in hexadecimal. :-)

Could well be that you have to correct you database once more (amiga.resource.cx has a nice database for manufacturer numbers).

Michael
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: mboehmer_e3b on June 09, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: Piru;563489
Could you please provide the full bustest output as requested before?


Bustest depends strongly on the CPU card being used. 030 cards are usually faster on Zorro III, as no mapping logic is needed, 040 and 060 cards are ways slower.

ZorRAM compares to the DKB3128, the limit for both read and write accesses is somewhere around 13.5MB/s - measured with DENEB operating as DMA master from/to ZorRAM (DENEB DMA state machine is fast, the limit is here mainly the rising edge of /DTACK, which is awfully slow due to the pullup structure of that signal, increasing the waiting phase between two DMA accesses).

On 030 systems you will end up with PIO rates of 12MB/s write and 9MB/s read, while 060 based systems (which usually have 128MB of really fast on-CPU-card memory) values of 10MB/s write and 7MB/s read can be expected. Your mileage may vary.

Michael
Title: Re: ZorRAM 128MB / 256MB Now Shipping (www.amigakit.com)
Post by: mboehmer_e3b on June 10, 2010, 06:35:29 AM
@Piru: sorry for the delay. Had to assemble my test machine again.

First test on Blizzard 4030@50MHz:
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BusSpeedTest 0.19 (mlelstv)   Buffer:     262144 Bytes, Alignment: 32768
========================================================================
memtype   addr       op         cycle     calib         bandwidth
user      $50000000  readw     255.8 ns   normal       7.5 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  readl     430.3 ns   normal       8.9 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  readm     415.0 ns   normal       9.2 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writew    331.4 ns   normal       5.8 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writel    331.5 ns   normal      11.5 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writem    289.6 ns   normal      13.2 * 2^20 byte/s


Second test on CSPPC 060@50MHz:
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BusSpeedTest 0.19 (mlelstv)   Buffer:     262144 Bytes, Alignment: 32768
========================================================================
memtype   addr       op         cycle     calib         bandwidth
user      $50000000  readw     631.5 ns   normal       3.0 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  readl     632.7 ns   normal       6.0 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  readm     632.7 ns   normal       6.0 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writew    362.2 ns   normal       5.3 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writel    362.8 ns   normal      10.5 * 2^20 byte/s
user      $50000000  writem    362.8 ns   normal      10.5 * 2^20 byte/s


Values are in real megabytes (2^10 bytes = 1kB), not in "HDD" megabytes (10^3 bytes = 1kB).

Michael