Who's getting the Tabor?

[Iggy]

The thing is, most people already have powerful x86 boxes (more powerful than the X5000 in fact) for demanding tasks such as gaming, rendering, scientific calculations or whatever, and only want an AmigaOS system as a secondary box. The small size and equally tiny power consumption are actually advantages then, and performance isn't crucial as long as it runs AmigaOS apps at decent speed and can display most standard websites.

Indeed, until AmigaOS gains 64-bit and multi core support, the additional power is mostly wasted (you can run Linux, but then again, you can run Linux on your cheap 5 GHz overclocked quad-core x86 CPU with that GTX 1080 and 32 GB of RAM, too).

I don't see that as a legitimate excuse to buy something with that weak a cpu.
And the fact that it won't be able to upgrade to a 64bit OS (should we ever see that) is hardly a selling point.
Also, if the 31 bit memory limitation is lifted, then you've only got 4GB of address space (leaving abou 3.5 GB after I/O is considered)..
Further, I have X64 hardware, but still use alternative hardware.
I just don't think its such a hot idea to buy something with less performance than an over 15 year old G4 PowerMac.

Its got a PCIe slot? Will that matter when even a moderately powerful video card will be bottlenecked by the cpu?

[utri007]

This is who is getting Tabor thread, not a "who is NOT getting Tabor" thread. You are free start one yourself.

[Iggy]

This is who is getting Tabor thread, not a "who is NOT getting Tabor" thread. You are free start one yourself.

Ah...censorship.
I was simply replying to the comment about pricing.
Its kind of like getting a pair of polyester pants from Kmart at a good price.
If you're really unlucky they'll give you two for the same price.

BTW - a negative reply is just as valid as your positive replies (and in my opinion, quite a bit more sensible).
If you're two cheap to buy an X5000, why not buy a Raspberry Pi?

Everyone here keeps mentioning that as well.

[utri007]

Ah...censorship.

No censorship would be that you are not allowed to post. I suggested that you start your own thread, with those who doesn't want to buy Tabor. Your posts are OT

If you're two cheap to buy an X5000, why not buy a Raspberry Pi?

Everyone here keeps mentioning that as well.

I have some thirty Computers in my house. Only few of them are Amigas.

[utri007]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUg-6I9cizo

Radeon HD 6450 and Sam 440ep Flex. This is to demostrate, what kind of difference Graphics card do.

[darksun9210]

ok so i've been living under a bit of a rock i guess, to have not really heard of this.

my OS4 hankerings and excitment pretty much died when i tried to get my BPPC to kick off a build of OS4 classic. story i wont go into here.

not the easiest introduction i think we can admit, but if this board pops up at a good price i'll be interested.

good to see new kit coming out, and i wish A-EON and whoever has the amiga rights to whatever IP is left all the best for the future and hope they can make a go of it.

[RobertB]

I would like to buy one or two of the boards.  They would be even better in something like the X500 cases.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
June 10-11 Pacific Commodore Expo NW -
http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex

[Rob]

@RobertB

Trevor has just such a setup which you may have seen in his blog last October.

Something like this would be nice too but it's not practical to build in small quantities like the X500 case

[youtube]r85S48zsqTM[/youtube]

[Iggy]

No censorship would be that you are not allowed to post. I suggested that you start your own thread, with those who doesn't want to buy Tabor. Your posts are OT

I have some thirty Computers in my house. Only few of them are Amigas.

Its a valid point, if it helps, once I obtain the X5000, Tabor could be an option if I find OS4 interesting.
I don't anticipate a MorphOS port for Tabor, so I'd have to find OS4 more appealing than I do from my meager exposure to it.

And I don't think I have thirty systems here (I sell off whatever I'm not currently exploring) - but I have a pretty diverse group of systems myself.

And as I may attend AmiWest this year, I promise not to dump on Tabor (too much). I don't want to piss off Trevor, he's been very good to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUg-6I9cizo

Radeon HD 6450 and Sam 440ep Flex. This is to demostrate, what kind of difference Graphics card do.

Nice. I have an HD 6450 I pulled from a Lenovo SFF system that died. I guess I'll hold on to that in case...
Unlike the 4550 it replaced, its got hdmi output which was useful as I had it tied to an HD television.

[RobertB]

Trevor has just such a setup which you may have seen in his blog last October.

    You mean the one I saw at the Adelaide Retro-Computing Event in September.  

It was sweet,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
June 10-11 Pacific Commodore Expo NW -
http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex

[yssing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUg-6I9cizo

Radeon HD 6450 and Sam 440ep Flex. This is to demostrate, what kind of difference Graphics card do.

That is a huge difference, I would not have expected such a big difference.

[eliyahu]

@thread

hyperion has posted on their blog a new entry on the game tower 57 running on an A1222. of course this is an alpha build of the game running on an alpha build of the operating system, but it's already quite a bit faster than a SAM460ex at this point, and should be much better in future. there's also a youtube video as well. check it out!

-- eliyahu

[kolla]

Every time I see A1222, I think ACA1221 :p

[AmigaOldskooler]

@thread

hyperion has posted on their blog a new entry on the game tower 57 running on an A1222. of course this is an alpha build of the game running on an alpha build of the operating system, but it's already quite a bit faster than a SAM460ex at this point, and should be much better in future. there's also a youtube video as well. check it out!

-- eliyahu

Wow, looks very nice. It's cool that Tower57 will be available for AmigaOS 4.

[JimmiG]

@RobertB

Trevor has just such a setup which you may have seen in his blog last October.

Something like this would be nice too but it's not practical to build in small quantities like the X500 case

[youtube]r85S48zsqTM[/youtube]

Well there are those new A1200 cases being made... :idea:
However fitting a video card in that without using some kind of PCI-E raiser and doing some custom work is going to be tricky.

But that's one reason I like the A1222. It's so small that you can do some creative stuff with it. I already have a Define XL R2 case for my x86 system, so I don't need another gigantic computer.

[wawrzon]

@thread

hyperion has posted on their blog a new entry on the game tower 57 running on an A1222. of course this is an alpha build of the game running on an alpha build of the operating system, but it's already quite a bit faster than a SAM460ex at this point, and should be much better in future. there's also a youtube video as well. check it out!

-- eliyahu

btw. this is paricularly compiled native binary for that hardware target, as daniel himself writes, so this isnt representative for regular os4 software unfortunately.