What the F***!

[commodorejohn]

http://www.karmadigital.com/tf5_htpc_home_theatre_pc_case.html +
http://www.ubuntu.com =
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Amiga.aspx

You, madam, win. Wonder how much they're going to be charging for their stylish "couldn't be bothered to render with textures, but don't worry, we'll slap a boing-ball sticker on it in production" look on generic x86 desktop hardware?

As far as the whole "at least they're doing something" line of reasoning - I'm not going to trash on the people who think that next-gen Amiga-like OSes ought to run on x86 hardware (even if I myself disagree,) but come on. All that Commodore USA has been doing thus far is slapping a brand on generic Atom hardware in an unusual form-factor - it has less to do with the Amiga (x86, PPC, or 68k flavors) than those cheapo "greatest hits as performed by some group of barely-awake session players" records you find clogging up thrift stores have to do with the band they'd like you to think you're buying a record by.

[klx300r]

Commodore Amiga is a registered and legitimate business in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

We will be announcing something very soon.

heck I trust Iran more than AI..so why not:roflmao:

[WolfToTheMoon]

You, madam, win. Wonder how much they're going to be charging for their stylish "couldn't be bothered to render with textures, but don't worry, we'll slap a boing-ball sticker on it in production" look on generic x86 desktop hardware?

Amiga desktop cases will be customized... Those Karma Digital cases that you currently see on the website are only the base... As to your possible question of how much customized... From what I can remember, the front fascia will be completely different(no cheap stickers), there's some talk about a keyboard garage like on the original A1000 and there are bound to be some changes inside as well.

[commodorejohn]

Okay, so they're going to slap a boing-ball logo bubble and a slightly customized case on generic x86 hardware. Whoop-de-doo.

[klx300r]

Amiga desktop cases will be customized... Those Karma Digital cases that you currently see on the website are only the base...

yes yes we've heard it all before a million times..of course they have a 30 million dollar budget but from day one have taken others work off the internet and pawned it off as their own...all in a good honest days work for AI:laughing:

honestly I bet that bloody 'snowman' was ripped off from some poor soul too...AI and CUSA you reap what you sow

[WolfToTheMoon]

Okay, so they're going to slap a boing-ball sticker and a slightly customized case on generic x86 hardware. Whoop-de-doo.

What would you have them to do? There's nothing else anybody can do... even the mighty Apple uses "generic x86 hardware". There is simply no choice out there today, if you want to be a player, you're bound to use generic x86.  But at least they'll be using the best x86 hardware ... Intel SandyBridge

And slightly customized cases... sure, in some models. Some will have a fully custom case. And they're starting a new Linux distro with aspirations to make if a fairly custom OS in the future. I think one can hardly accuse them of being "generic"(or slapping stickers), especially for a start-up...

[persia]

The words "legitimate" and "Iran" are an oxymoron.  Even my relatives who have done well in the country are getting tired of the corruption.  They said at first it was fun figuring out which mullah to slip the tomans to and how much but now it's just a drag...

It's sort of amazing that a country that vets all it's candidates using a "purity control" still has to resort to vote stealing.  Current rumours are that in the next election you can vote for the "opposition" candidate by turning yourself into Evin prison directly and save everyone a bit of time...

Commodore Amiga is a registered and legitimate business in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

We will be announcing something very soon.

[billt]

Amiga® trademark used under exclusive worldwide license by Commodore USA, LLC for its line of AIO (All-In-One) keyboard computers, and is the trademark of Amiga Inc., registered in the United States and other countries.

Curious. Those pictures are of big-boxes, not of AOI keyboard computers.

Regardless, I feel that this is all an attempt my an embittered Amiga Inc. to try and ruin Hyperion's success. I do not support any of this Amiga branded hardware without AmigaOS (and cannot possibly run AmigaOS) crap.

[nicholas]

Curious. Those pictures are of big-boxes, not of AOI keyboard computers.

Regardless, I feel that this is all an attempt my an embittered Amiga Inc. to try and ruin Hyperion's success. I do not support any of this Amiga branded hardware without AmigaOS (and cannot possibly run AmigaOS) crap.

Commodore Amiga OS5 is coming soon to hardware near you.

[commodorejohn]

What would you have them to do? There's nothing else anybody can do... even the mighty Apple uses "generic x86 hardware". There is simply no choice out there today, if you want to be a player, you're bound to use generic x86.  But at least they'll be using the best x86 hardware ... Intel SandyBridge

Again, I don't have a problem with Amiga-like OSes on x86 hardware - what I have a problem with is someone trying to pass off "x86 PC with a Commodore logo on it" as an actual Commodore computer. Commodore, the company, is dead. None of the people who made it what it was have anything to do with this venture - this is purely a case of a company dressing up in the trappings of a once-loved brand to hawk its own wares, which don't even bring anything special to the table.

I mean, seriously. I like Linux just fine, but Linux is not AmigaOS, never has been, and never will be. I don't care whether you're a devotee of AROS, MorphOS, ClassicWB, or even AOS4 - at least those have some basis in the Amiga architecture and design philosophy, instead of being a "well, uh, we cobbled up a desktop environment that looks like Workbench!" Linux distro. Using that on your desktop? Okay, sure. Selling it as AmigaOS? No.

(And no, you don't have to use x86. There's ARM, there's ColdFire, there's even Hitachi's SuperH architecture if you want. The domination of the Intel Hegemony isn't complete - not yet, anyway.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Hyperion's success.

Sure... I hear AmigaOS4 devs are rolling in money and apple is trembling with words of Amiga OS 4.2 release... :rolleyes:

[WolfToTheMoon]

what I have a problem with is someone trying to pass off "x86 PC with a Commodore logo on it" as an actual Commodore computer

Commodore sold x86 computers... and it would be doing x86 if it survived until today, including Amiga. Get over it.

this is purely a case of a company dressing up in the trappings of a once-loved brand to hawk its own wares, which don't even bring anything special to the table

From your point of view, maybe. But again, some may think differently.

I mean, seriously. I like Linux just fine, but Linux is not AmigaOS, never has been, and never will be. I don't care whether you're a devotee of AROS, MorphOS, ClassicWB, or even AOS4 - at least those have some basis in the Amiga architecture and design philosophy, instead of being a "well, uh, we cobbled up a desktop environment that looks like Workbench!" Linux distro. Using that on your desktop? Okay, sure. Selling it as AmigaOS? No.

Amiga OS architecture is a dead end. Face it. Had Commodore survived, there would be none of the original Amiga OS architecture today. End of story. C=USA could have just used Windows with their computers. The easy way. Instead, they're going with all the trouble of creating something custom, if only slightly, at the beggining. And no... it's not being sold as AmigaOS. The naming is not yet set in stone.

And no, you don't have to use x86. There's ARM, there's ColdFire, there's even Hitachi's SuperH architecture if you want. The domination of the Intel Hegemony isn't complete - not yet, anyway.

Coldfire? Are you serious? Sure, ARM I can see being competitive on the desktop market in a few years maybe. The rest is a no-go for any home computer use other then a hobby.

[dammy]

Okay, so they're going to slap a boing-ball logo bubble and a slightly customized case on generic x86 hardware. Whoop-de-doo.

If they substituted a flaky PPC mobo for the generic x86, would that make things better?  Oh, triple the price as well.

[klx300r]

Commodore sold x86 computers... and it would be doing x86 if it survived until today, including Amiga. Get over it.
..

really? why don't you go back and see how well their x86 computers did

[WolfToTheMoon]

really? why don't you go back and see how well their x86 computers did

that is well known. the fact remains if they had any hopes of staying competitive past 95', x86 was the only way in the future with a possible PPC era like Apple in between.

[spihunter]

Nobody will ever know what would had happened if Commodore had survived. Your starting to lose credibility by saying stuff like this.

Amiga OS architecture is a dead end. Face it. Had Commodore survived, there would be none of the original Amiga OS architecture today. End of story. C=USA could have just used Windows with their computers. The easy way. Instead, they're going with all the trouble of creating something custom, if only slightly, at the beggining. And no... it's not being sold as AmigaOS. The naming is not yet set in stone.