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Does AROS have an integrated UAE type emulation layer like MorphOS or Amithlon?
No.

In fact the two similar options you present are different already:

MorphOS - no chipset emulation, custom powerpc JIT, 68k apps run inside the powerpc OS, taking advantage of the native OS routines, 68k apps are just like any other applications. 68k apps have access to the native system resources such as 3d acceleration. MorphOS 68k emulation has nothing to do with UAE.

Amithlon - stripped down UAE sitting on top of linux kernel, has a fast JIT engine AFAIK only partially based on the UAE one, limited HW emulation, there is a way to call native x86 routines. 68k apps have access to the bare HW here as well.

As far as I know AROS is opting for UAE integration: Running a stock UAE, sharing clipboard, filesystems etc. Much like what you have with VMWare where you can access the host system resources (note: vmware is used here only as a reference to how the host environment can be accessed).

The obvious plus here is that it will run pretty much anything UAE does. Downside is that it will be a pain to integrate it anywhere near as good as MorphOS or Amithlon. For instance it will be hard to make the 68k apps not look out of place (Preferences are hard to propagate etc). The biggest problem probably is that it requires a legal copy of the AmigaOS to be able to run anything (There have been talks about using AROS 68k as a AmigaOS replacement, but as far as I can tell that plan hasn't advanced).

Speaking of which, is there "Unity" mode in the AROS UAE integration yet?
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 08:29:12 AM »
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Did you check out the o1i or is that something different again?
Well I assume o1i's stuff is the UAE integration?

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I'm referring to mode similar to VMWare Unity.
 

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 08:49:45 AM »
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AROS's UAE integration features a Unity mode (that is kind of the point)

Why there are no screenshots of it? All I've seen is the whole emulation running in a window, just like regular UAE.

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Please spend more time on the AROS Dev list, there are people working on a complete Amiga port of AROS, I'm sure you could offer advice ;)

Sorry I'm busy enough already, which reminds me I should finish a report today...
 

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 11:18:56 AM »
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Well this is a turn up for the books! Looks very exciting, for those who didn't click the link, this is the same 68k type of emulation that MOS and AOS4 use :)
Yeah this looks very promising. There's one difference to MorphOS at least: With MorphOS there's no need for virtual address space and mapping to the OS structures and calls. MorphOS is compatible enough so that only 68k emulation is needed.

This is very interesting and important project. I'd even consider this more important than Janus UAE (since there's no need to (C) Kickstart ROM or Workbench files, and the 68k applications benefiting from the native libraries and system components).
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 06:59:07 AM »
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Are there examples of code originating from MorphOS being brought to AROS?
Considering such code doesn't fall into APL I very much doubt it. Obviously if some code falls into other non-restrictive licenses then it might end up into AROS.

I'm not going to open up shell, sorry.
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