Forum Moderation Techniques

[lempkee]

well i didnt know it was locked even! , but i gave up on replying once the others started to TWIST everything said , making it look like pegasos 2 was 3 times cheaper than a1 and beeing far superior etc, i posted prices here in norway (RETAIL) showing its not even half the price and so on, too much FUD in that thread and it would have needed 20 or 30 amigaone users to put out the fire 10 pegasos people posted (or non pegasos people who just "WANT TO MAKE TROUBLE".

i am sort of glad it was stopped/locked but i am not very happy about the ways everything goes atm, amigaone users normally dont even attend such threads in general as they know what will happen, its a shame as it might make people choose the wrong solution due to FUD and bias.


my opinion anyway, and i dont think moderators here are too powerhungry but i do feel that they are biased from time to time, but i understand the problem for them also but i would love to see them stepping out and showing some interest and knowledge about the AMIGA OS instead of aros and mos all the time , we all know that they know it, they are moderators and they should be uptodate on everything, hence when they see trollbait they should eithe 1. EDIT IT , 2. remove it! or 3. (the worst one really) reply to it.

sorry for the harsh words but i am pretty confident that theese are things that needs to be looked into!.

cheers

[lempkee]

bloodline:Read my post again! , u clearly didnt get my point at all , it was AMIGA OS vs Morphos vs Aros.

[lempkee]

i agree with hooligan here.



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anyway:
there is a reason why i never applied for moderator privi. here on amiga.org , i am too biased to be one, i have no problems stating that i am an amiga fanatic and beeing that 100%.

people who is biased shouldnt be moderators, they should be in the middle and have "experiences/interest" within all subjects and be able to stop/start a discussion or put it on the correct track again.

i never said its an easy job, but i still expect the moderators to do it properly and correct!.

or? , maybe a moderator is too high on my LIST atm , i normally read moderator's post twice or so just as i expect them to have a point in what they are saying + helpfull information and so on.

damage controll is important and we have seen VERY little at that here on amiga.org lately , we see threads where aros is forced into without any meaning, just propaganda! (infact in any threads from pc to c64) , we do see pegasos people giving fud and we do see amigaone users spilling FUD aswell and so on, this is where the moderators should know better and jump in and FIX pronto!


we recently saw a rather sad post by wayne who said that trolls where taking over the DMZ forum, well they wouldnt have done this imho if moderators where abit more "INTO it" in the whole forum/news sections etc.

another thing is the "MAKE FUN of PHOTO's" in the photo albums , when did a moderator look in thoose threads last? , there is alot of INSULTS towards amiga.inc , towards david haynie etc.

really not a funny sight for the ones its about!

i encourage everyone posting all that crap there to edit it out before moderators see it! , but i do encourage the moderators to act fast and go trough it!.

good luck and keep in mind, i do like this site but there is alot of useless things popping up all the time without moderators dooing anything about it.


cheers

ps:sorry for rant , but i am sure i DO have a point!

[lempkee]

hooligan: indeed and this is where the line between MODERATORS and NORMAL users should be!

[lempkee]

ryu:yes i know , but it wasnt off topic when i last visited it and by then your post was like 2-3 pages behind! , i just dug out the posts which i knew where fud (about price amigaone vs peg) and so on.

my point is that moderators should do what i tried to do and they should have done it much sooner, i know its hard but heh who said it was going to be easy to be an moderator? and i am pretty sure most of you moderators are busy looking after trolls in the DMZ etc.

cheers

[lempkee]

ryu:if posting the truth is getting involved , hell then i dont see why we have moderators, if i hadnt interveined then the guys who have no clue whould have belived that the pegasos was 3 times cheaper than the amigaone in retail.

and so on..

moderators should jump in and solve problems like this, as its infact damage controll , we see moderators do this on their "fields" why wont they do it on other fields?

[lempkee]

yeah now i feel like the black cat...


thanks for that.

anyway all i where saying is that moderators should post facts / links in such cases and tell the poster who where fudding to check his sources.

nah but what the hell i am just a troll..

anyway i never aimed anything towards individuals with this, maybe that was a bad thing but i like to tell them over pm if they went over the line etc, i am just sick and tired of hearing about trolls (obviously i am one ;( ) destroying this forum/site , and i just pointed out what the moderators should do to fix it, i didnt tell them to jump in and type PERSONAL stuff, just a link or reference or maybe even a quote.

i am outta this thread.

[lempkee]

mikeymike: i had to get back in here and do another post as i noticed one thing that havent seen before .

"the lying part" , honest to god i doubt there is many around who do that on purpose , and as someone allready posted earlier, people do make mistakes and sometimes severe ones! , mostly this happen in so called "Vs" threads or infact even in emu threads but i dont jump in and say its a lie, i just try to point them back and i know i am abit rough in my posts sometimes but thats mostly because of my english + sometimes my head is on fire.

also as an direct answer to your last post here,

[/quote] Anyone can make mistakes though. A moderator accusing a poster of lying would look like a biased moderator, not a moderator who's made an honest mistake. Or the original poster might have made an honest mistake. I have my personal opinions on what the angles were in that thread, but I can't and shouldn't say what they were. Bear in mind also that I read that thread in hindsight, I'm not sure how I missed it TBH.
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we all do make mistakes, i dont know everything and sometimes i feel i am forced to intervien to guide the guy who has a question or one who said something i dissagre with so i try to atleast point him to facts about the topic.

since i am not a moderator (and i am too biased to be one , and thats MY own opinion)
and seeing that the moderators who knows this actually (or should in my opinion) doesnt intervien with the actual thread/topic makes me look like an question mark.


i think (honestly) that i have misunderstood the whole "moderator" ranking , but note one thing and its surely something you guys know allready, posters with "HUGE" postcounts and / or a moderator label is infact the posts i (+others) check out closely, and by that i dont mean i look for "bad things or errors etc" , its just normal to seek the highest rated user in many occasions!

anyway as i said earlier , i pm the ones trolling and ask them to either stop or explain whats going on , and sometimes i do it in the threads (if its a hot topic) .

cheers

ps:its damn hard to be unbiased in the amiga community theese days, either ur a uae , amithlon, classic , amigaos4 , morphos or aros lover , everyone thinks its funny (it seems) to jump in and write "What i like the most" in every thread there is an option to do so, imho thats the most annoying feature with our community atm.

[lempkee]

i never said moderating was an easy job nor thing and i never said they got paid for it, i just say what i EXPECT them to do to reduce trolling and fud, we all know wayne has been rather annoyied about it and so on.

was just a tip.

put it like this, i do it now when i am a normal non moderator, but i only do it for what interests me and my people (biased in other words) , but as a single person vs hundreds is not really fun, i am not mad because of the thread beeing closed, i didnt even notice tbh!

wayne:ps , i dont go to ann.lu unless i am guided by others , i had to do this a few days ago because some lamer posed as me on there. (have no idea for how long its been going on)
but yes i looked at your post and heh i was here when that guy posted his requests also, it was rather funny and lame (of him)

cheers