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Offline zylesea

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2012, 09:52:30 PM »
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Hmm. It really would be sweet to be able to put that Lombard to use...


400MHz G3 is probably not lightspeedy, but quite okay for many things (beside my two G4s I also own a Peg1 G3/600 and Efika, hence I can estimate the probable speed), a nice thing to play with _if_ it will be supported eventually. I read the Lombard is said to handle up to 512MB RAM, that's sufficient for quite some stuff.

Offline commodorejohn

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2012, 10:59:47 PM »
Exactly. As I said, even the 400/500MHz Pismo G3 is only just sufficient to run OSX 10.4 and barely handles TenFourFox, but by Amiga standards that's downright luxurious. Add in the fact that these go for a good deal cheaper than the G4s, and I think they'd be perfectly decent MorphOS machines...
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2012, 11:54:40 PM »
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Exactly. As I said, even the 400/500MHz Pismo G3 is only just sufficient to run OSX 10.4 and barely handles TenFourFox, but by Amiga standards that's downright luxurious. Add in the fact that these go for a good deal cheaper than the G4s, and I think they'd be perfectly decent MorphOS machines...


it's somewhere on their website, but basically, it'd make bad impressions of the OS, if people ran it on less than a G4.
 

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2012, 11:58:56 PM »
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Exactly. As I said, even the 400/500MHz Pismo G3 is only just sufficient to run OSX 10.4 and barely handles TenFourFox, but by Amiga standards that's downright luxurious. Add in the fact that these go for a good deal cheaper than the G4s, and I think they'd be perfectly decent MorphOS machines...


OWB on Pegasos 2 g3@600 is even worse and forget about youtube it's like watching a slide show.
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Offline Iggy

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2012, 12:29:07 AM »
The 3000 euros bounty may take awhile to collect, but AmigaDave has just informed me that he has purchased a G5 Power mac for Mark and that it is on its way to Davids home in California.
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Offline zylesea

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2012, 12:49:45 AM »
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OWB on Pegasos 2 g3@600 is even worse and forget about youtube it's like watching a slide show.


Not if you're using a non embedded video replay mode (i.e. overlay full screen playback) - then youtube is fine even on the Peg1 and nearly fine on Efika (the low Ram spoils it more severely there).
Anyway, rich web content requires some cpu power of course. And while I know that the lower spec computers can be pretty useful with MorphOS, I prefer my beefier machines by far.

Offline commodorejohn

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2012, 03:50:57 AM »
People get too hung up on YouTube anyway. Obviously you're not going to get Blu-Ray playback on a 333/400MHz processor, but that doesn't make the machine useless. And given that I could go on eBay right now and buy a PowerBook G3 and a MorphOS license for about what some people pay for just the PowerBook G4, I really think it might be to their advantage, at least as a starter-system option.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2012, 03:58:29 AM »
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it's somewhere on their website, but basically, it'd make bad impressions of the OS, if people ran it on less than a G4.



That it would. Granted, a G3 system running classic apps exclusively would be a wonderful ride with MorphOS, heck many MorphOS native apps would still run well, but once you got into web browsing, higher end games and this and that, it would certainly leave a bad taste in one's mouth, at least in this day and age.

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Offline kedawa

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2012, 05:47:55 AM »
I would never support any sort of bounty for closed source commercial software.
 

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2012, 05:58:36 AM »
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I would never support any sort of bounty for closed source commercial software.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2012, 06:41:49 AM »
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That it would. Granted, a G3 system running classic apps exclusively would be a wonderful ride with MorphOS, heck many MorphOS native apps would still run well, but once you got into web browsing, higher end games and this and that, it would certainly leave a bad taste in one's mouth, at least in this day and age.

 Personally, I think I'd rather go with an Efika with a nice Graphics card with plenty of RAM on it, before I went as low as something like an iMac. My eMac was a nightmare within itself!


Wasnt there issues with the built-in monitor for the emac not being that great? And thats before factoring in a 10 year old CRT lifespan..
 

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2012, 06:42:34 AM »
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Amen comrade!

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2012, 07:21:32 AM »
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Wasnt there issues with the built-in monitor for the emac not being that great? And thats before factoring in a 10 year old CRT lifespan..
Good CRTs can last a lot longer than ten years - I have an IBM EGA monitor coming up on thirty that still works like new - but yes, the eMac is notoriously chintzy. Dark screen, video glitches, bad caps, the works.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2012, 08:04:38 AM »

I have some good news guyz :) I'm copying my post from MorphZone.org:

I have some good news regarding bounty. Thanks to David 'AmigaDave' Morris we will have two models suported. David kindly offered to buy and send PowerMac G5 2.7Ghz - M9749LL/A and he also will spare his own 2.0Ghz model (which was already mentioned in bounty).

As at the first place I was responsible to obtain a G5 for BigFoot my part of 500 euros was paid into the bounty already.

What is more our MorphOS Santa Claus Fraggle said that when bounty reaches 50% he is gonna put in another 50% so we will have bounty completed!

When typing that words we have about 920 euros in bounty already so basically what we need is just 580 euros only! Come one guys, let's make that happen :)
 

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2012, 08:47:24 AM »
Aren't G3s "oldworld" Macs ? Read Macs that don't use OpenFirmware ?

What kind of GFX chips are utilizied in there ? PCI-ATI-Rage or even more obsolete ?

Sounds like a lot of work for me....


On the other hand:
32MB VMEM MacMini (still much better than anything Rage) go for around 100Euro.
400-800MHz PowerMacs can be had for as little as 40Euro (often less), sure they often also feature an ATI-Rage, but atleast it's AGP and can be easily upgraded to something more sensible.
And finally, the iBook-model Geit demoed both on the last 2 Geit@home and in Bad Bramstedt rarely goes over 100Euro these days (and there is a good chance that some even older/cheaper models will also turn out supported).

Or in short:
G3-Mac-support == total waste of time !
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else