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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #89 from previous page: July 27, 2016, 08:05:59 PM »
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Does the text "Initialising" (at the top) and the version number (in the box, bottom-right) appear on the splash screen?



See my reply in posting #85. Does that help?
Do you have an idea what could be going wrong?
Please advise!
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #90 on: July 27, 2016, 08:56:46 PM »
I don't know how to help you.

I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?

Does AWeb work? It also uses reaction. Could it be a font problem?

When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz
« Last Edit: July 27, 2016, 11:27:36 PM by utri007 »
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #91 on: July 27, 2016, 11:23:03 PM »
Quote from: utri007;811733
I don't know how to help you.

I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?

Does AWeb work? It also uses reaction? Could it be a font problem?

When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / uses / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz

That's unlikely to help, because the font used on the splash is hard-coded. I think it uses helvetica/15 (if not, it's ruby/12). Maybe try that in DPaint or something.

There's some unnecessary string copying too, which I'll get rid of, but I'd be surprised if that is causing the crash.

The options above only apply to browser rendering.
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #92 on: July 28, 2016, 11:22:21 AM »
Quote from: utri007;811733


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I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?



I just checked the rad version - it is RAD 40.1.

Is that the correct version for OS 3.9 w. BBs I & II?

Quote from: utri007;811733


Does AWeb work? It also uses reaction. Could it be a font problem?



Yes - my registered version of AWeb II v3.4 works.
What do you mean with "font problem"?
Once there was a so called "Euro-Update" for OS 3.9 by H&P, which I installed back then.

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When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz



I can try this.
Currently the content of "Choices" is:

"theme:PROGDIR:Resources/Themes/Default
pubscreen_name:Workbench
"

Shall I leave that in or should I overwrite it with what you suggested?
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #93 on: July 28, 2016, 11:34:47 AM »
Quote from: chris;811740


That's unlikely to help, because the font used on the splash is hard-coded. I think it uses helvetica/15 (if not, it's ruby/12). Maybe try that in DPaint or something.

There's some unnecessary string copying too, which I'll get rid of, but I'd be surprised if that is causing the crash.

The options above only apply to browser rendering.



Hmmmm - so what else could be the reason for the crashes?

I mean - from the SnoopDos-logfile we know that the last action of the starting process that was executed (with result "O.K.") was:
"31 [7] work:internet/ Load FONTS:helvetica/15 OK".

What would be the next action in the starting process?
Obviously this next action somehow causes the system freezes.

Or could it somehow be due the "failed" actions in lines 13 - 18 of my SnoopDos-log in posting #83?
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #94 on: July 28, 2016, 12:49:00 PM »
Quote from: Dandy;811757

Currently the content of "Choices" is:

"theme:PROGDIR:Resources/Themes/Default
pubscreen_name:Workbench
"

Shall I leave that in or should I overwrite it with what you suggested?


Leaven them, if you try this.
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #95 on: July 28, 2016, 12:56:27 PM »
Quote from: Dandy;811758

Or could it somehow be due the "failed" actions in lines 13 - 18 of my SnoopDos-log in posting #83?


Those seems to be GuiGfx settings, they shouldn't matter. GuiGfx uses defaults, if not said other way. In guigfx lha archive has a folder wich should be copied to ENV: under it has three settings files, content is on 0 or 1, ie. on or off.

Quote
guigfx environment variables
----------------------------

  guigfx/USESCALEPIXELARRAY
  internal default: 0

    use ScalePixelArray() / cybergraphics v41

    if you have cybergraphics v41 (or later) installed to
    your system, this flag tells guigfx.library to use
    ScalePixelArray() for scaling truecolor data to truecolor
    displays.
   
    ScalePixelArray() scales inside the graphics card's memory
    and can thereof be very fast. it is NOT used by default,
    due to accuracy problems. ScalePixelArray()
   
    - uses an incorrect bresenham algorithm
    - overwrites areas outside the specified rectangle
    - overwrites areas outside the specified rastport
    - flickers

    set this flag to 1 if you prefer higher performance
    instead of higher accuracy.
 
   
  guigfx/USEWPA8
  internal default: 0

    use WritePixelArray() on native Amiga screenmodes

    the OS functions WriteChunkyPixels(), WritePixelArray8() and
    WritePixelLine8() are awfully slow and almost unusable on
    native Amiga displays. therefore, guigfx.library uses an
    internal chunky-2-planar conversion for planar displays.

    there are very fast third-party patches available to
    improve the performance of WritePixelArray(). if you
    are using such a patch for WritePixelArray(), set this
    flag to 1.
   
    note: this flag is meaningless for graphics card displays.

 
  guigfx/AUTODITHERTHRESHOLD
  internal default: 250

    set global default autodither threshold
 
    this setting allows you to set a global default for
    guigfx.library's autodither feature. the lower, the earlier
    dithering is activated.

    note: applications may override this global default value.
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #96 on: July 28, 2016, 07:37:47 PM »
Quote from: utri007;811760


...
if you have cybergraphics v41 (or later) installed to
your system,
...




And what if I use Picasso 96?
Cybergraphix did not work with the Voodoo4 PCI in my Mediator when I installed the Voodoo...
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #97 on: July 29, 2016, 12:47:43 AM »
No problem with Picasso96, I use it too.

There is no Cybergraphix driver for my Graphics card.
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #98 on: August 01, 2016, 07:36:33 PM »
Quote from: utri007;811733


...
When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz



Tried this - same result as before.
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2016, 07:10:00 PM »
Quote from: utri007;811733


I don't know how to help you.

I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?
...



RAD: problem fixed.
The RAD: I had in DEVS:dosdrivers was v40.1 of August 12th, 2005.
I just had a look on my OS 3.9 CD and the RAD: in the Emergency Boot directory there was of June 22nd, 1999.
So I replaced tthe 2005 RAD: with the 1999 one.
And now Ram_0: ( RAD: ) works...
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #100 on: August 02, 2016, 07:28:36 PM »
Sounds that you have installed some unofficial stuff, could there be more of them?
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #101 on: August 02, 2016, 07:54:53 PM »
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Sounds that you have installed some unofficial stuff, could there be more of them?



I remember that some time ago I tried a software (Grunch?) to update libraries and other stuff. No idea what it all did.

Can you provide a list of things needed to start NetSurf where I should check the versions?
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2016, 09:50:18 PM »
I don't know would it work.

How about if you copy from your OS3.9 CD content of, libs, c and classes to equlent directories of your system partition?

After that install (or copy files) BB1&2?
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2016, 10:12:03 PM »
Quote from: Dandy;812013

Can you provide a list of things needed to start NetSurf where I should check the versions?


http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/frontends/amiga/libs.c#n207
Pretty much anything in red on that page ^^^
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Re: NetSurf 3.4 released!
« Reply #104 on: August 03, 2016, 07:46:11 AM »
Quote from: chris;812017


http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/frontends/amiga/libs.c#n207
Pretty much anything in red on that page ^^^



O.K.
Just one question:
Are the numbers behind the red marked items the required version numbers?

Example (the underlined, bold number "37"):
AMINS_LIB_OPEN("asl.library",          37, Asl,         "main",        1, true)

If not, can you please provide the info which versions are required?

Then I can check the versions tonight when I'm, back home in front of my Miggy...
Thanks in advance!
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