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Offline Kremlar

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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #314 from previous page: March 06, 2020, 10:31:18 AM »
Is it naive to believe you worked on 3.1.4 for "free" as well?
What do you want to imply? That I'm lying? Thank you so much. It's probably not enough having worked on 3.1.4 without payment (not alone, of course), and having provided freeware over the last 20 years or so, also without payment. What else do you need? Do I need to open up my bank account to prove it? Which type of conspiracy theory comes next?

I'm implying that perhaps you should not assume primary motivation.  I don't know Mike Battalina well, but I did speak with him some at a convention a couple years back.  His motivation was clear to me, and it was not money.

Companies are made to make money. Sweet talk does not change that.

He had his company focused on making money licensing Commodore's IP since even before Hyperion ever existed.

And he is still selling the same repackaged stuff to this very day, instead of giving it away for free.

Talk is cheap.

His motivation is to make money and you are just another one that felt into his PR stunt.

LOL, someone is a bit jaded. 

So, work for something you love and your motives are pure.  Incorporate and track income and expenses for tax purposes and you are in it just for the money.

Everyone wants to make money, but people put time and effort into things for different reasons - whether they profit from it or not.

 

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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #315 on: March 06, 2020, 12:20:50 PM »
I thought you are working for free now

Quote from: BozzerBigD
@Thomas Richter
Not really sure why you've become this public mouthpiece for Hyperion's Classic Development team to be honest.

Hyperion got a great deal on Thomas.  Free software and publicity to boot.  Did he get an invite to the Hyperion Christmas party at least?
 

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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #316 on: March 06, 2020, 12:43:45 PM »
So... You Amiga users... Bullying the guy who is making the new Amiga OS  :o

On top of that (if I understood right) he is doing it for very little or no money. And you attack him for this too.

I can't but stratch my head. As a user i don't care if Cloanto, Hyperion or Nintendo releases a new AmigaOS as long as I can enjoy it.

This stuff makes me think AROS is the only way forward.
 
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Offline kolla

Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #317 on: March 06, 2020, 02:06:33 PM »
This stuff makes me think AROS is the only way forward.
It is - congrats, with this statement you are now well on your way to become a troll in the eyes of the people you wanted to defend here.
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #318 on: March 06, 2020, 02:30:09 PM »
So... You Amiga users... Bullying the guy who is making the new Amiga OS  :o

On top of that (if I understood right) he is doing it for very little or no money. And you attack him for this too.

I can't but stratch my head. As a user i don't care if Cloanto, Hyperion or Nintendo releases a new AmigaOS as long as I can enjoy it.

This stuff makes me think AROS is the only way forward.
Exactly...and anyone can repackage it and fork it and sell it.  If Dr. M. Shultz offered a RPi4 AROS pre-installed - I'd buy it instantly.
 

Offline utri007

Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #319 on: March 06, 2020, 10:09:45 PM »
Quote from: Kolla
It is - congrats, with this statement you are now well on your way to become a troll in the eyes of the people you wanted to defend here.

you got it wrong, they don't need to be defended, that is just a observation. What they do is their defence against trolls like you & partners. 

This thread is shamefull. :(

Time to time I check if there is any actual information, but no...



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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #320 on: March 07, 2020, 12:56:23 AM »
There is plenty of development of OS3.2 going on; however I'm not inclined to bother sharing details on a site that is full of trolls and essentially unmoderated.
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #321 on: March 07, 2020, 01:25:28 AM »
@Minuous

Good glad to hear it, now it would be great if we didn't hear anything about it until it is done and ready to release preferably after the court settlement. Otherwise, the developers again run the risk of being perceived as mouth pieces of Hyperion. They are a company that didn't even have decency to follow through and organise an interview with Stephen Jones to readdress the balance and give their own customers the chance to ask some questions! However, they have no problem sending their secret coding weapon Thomas Richter onto the forums to "take one for the team" every single day of his life while they fritter away his hard won profits on legal shenanigans!  :o 
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #322 on: March 07, 2020, 01:42:07 AM »
@Minuous

However, they have no problem sending their secret coding weapon Thomas Richter onto the forums to "take one for the team" every single day of his life while they fritter away his hard won profits on legal shenanigans!  :o

What the f**k! Send Thomas here? to "take one of the team". What planet are you from? Or are you talking some other Thomas? It is weird place where you live.
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #323 on: March 07, 2020, 10:14:07 AM »
@utri007

What else is he doing if not promoting a Hyperion product and providing customer service that they have no intention of providing? How is it going? Is good will towards the endeavour increasing or decreasing? They ARE using him whether he cares or not and on the outside looking in I think he deserves better. In reality he's not going to get it especially on the forums pretending he can be above all the politics and the Amiga entities ripping themselves apart!
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #324 on: March 07, 2020, 09:13:24 PM »
Fucking hell, everyone. Can't we have a conversation without descending into personal insults and accusations of moral impurity? Yes, the legal situation is a disaster, and up is down, and x did y to z, and blah blah blah. I don't give a shit anymore. Fact of the matter is that Thomas and others are volunteering their time to try to advance this platform that we all claim to love. I stepped away from this thread because I felt I had said all I wanted to say, and now I come back to check in and find that the bullying and the holier-than-thou attitude has blown up to the point where it seems Thomas has left the site altogether. Tell me, what have you "won" by driving a valuable member of the community away? Who benefits?

Disagree with the direction Thomas is taking the OS? Disagree with the fact that Hyperion gets the proceeds? Fine, vote with your wallet and don't buy the resulting product. But don't shit on the *volunteer* effort that Thomas and others are putting forth to try to bring some advancement to the platform.

Someone sent me this thing about a year or two ago and this thread reminded me of it:


Right now it looks like we're at step 7. Everyone needs to chill the fuck out.

It's pretty rare that I drop f-bombs and such in my posts, so let that be an indication of how disappointed I am in the direction this thread has gone. If I had mod powers it would now be locked. I'll say no more on this matter.
 

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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #325 on: March 07, 2020, 11:57:02 PM »
I f I were mod, I would ban Kolla forever just like mods on eab did. That would be good start.
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #326 on: March 08, 2020, 12:03:46 AM »
As this whole theatrical rehearsal plays out for hundreds of confused (or should I say mislead) AO forum readers, it would be nice if the curtain were pulled back to find out who's pulling the strings on this charade! Me thinks there's a higher power influencing the bad actors in this thread.  ::)
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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #327 on: March 17, 2020, 01:14:58 PM »
Now, it is time for another interesting update (after all the company is called "Hyperion Entertainment" ;D):

90 Notice of Withdrawal of Counsel Mon 03/16 3:44 PM
NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL: Attorney Sarah E Elsden; Rhett V Barney and Robert J Carlson for Consol Defendant Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Plaintiff Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Counter Defendants Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A.. (Carlson, Robert)
89 Notice of Appearance Mon 03/16 11:51 AM
NOTICE of Appearance by attorney Eric Harrison on behalf of Consol Defendant Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Plaintiff Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Counter Claimant Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Counter Defendants Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A., Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A.. (Harrison, Eric)
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Offline Louis Dias

Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #328 on: March 17, 2020, 01:45:31 PM »
An update about how Hyperion's American legal team quit?

https://twitter.com/amigadocuments/status/1239789197575192576

Is that the kind of update you were looking for?
 

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Re: "Hyperion and Cloanto allegedly close to finalizing settlement"
« Reply #329 on: March 17, 2020, 02:32:14 PM »
Wild guess - the lawyers, like everyone else working for Hyperion... were not paid?
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