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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: on January 08, 2005, 01:09:33 PM
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http://www.suse.com/en/private/download/ftp/int_mirrors.html (http://www.suse.com/en/private/download/ftp/int_mirrors.html)
Have fun! :-D
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Is this the real deal, or the "Live Eval" versions they've given away in the past?
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What do you mean by "Live Eval" ??? Unfinished and full of bugs ???
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Free download? I thought Linux distros were always free :-?. Apart from the CD-in-a-box-with-support releases that is.
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odin wrote:
Free download? I thought Linux distros were always free :-?. Apart from the CD-in-a-box-with-support releases that is.
It is free. I'm no expert but here's how I understand SUSE. You can download & install their latest release at any time, I've recently done an FTP install of SUS 9.1. While extremely easy, it would frighten off some. If you want a bootable ISO with nearly idiotproof installation you have the choice of Live evail or a retail box vrsion with phone support.
Fair enough.
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Hey there,
You may have already worked this out Effy, but a 'live eval' is a distribution which boots straight from CD, making use of a ramdisk, so you can try without having to fiddle around installing the thing :-)
Remarkably useful for fixing a bust installed distro too, not that this is the voice of experience or anything...honest :-D
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Consider me being a truly beginner when talking about Linux, still need to learn that. But this Linux version, for what kind of Amiga´s can this be useful ?? Only for A1 and Pegasos or also for Blizz- and Cyberstorm PPC´s ??? :-?
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Effy wrote:
Consider me being a truly beginner when talking about Linux, still need to learn that. But this Linux version, for what kind of Amiga´s can this be useful ?? Only for A1 and Pegasos or also for Blizz- and Cyberstorm PPC´s ??? :-?
Nah, AFAIK SuSE Linux is only for x86...
-Paul
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Is this 9.2 basic or 9.2 Professional?
I am after the latter.
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I'm downloading this right now. It's not the live eval (that's in another directory on the FTP site). If you go into 1386/9.2/iso you see two files. A mini Install and 9.2-FTP-DVD. I read the readme and it says this is the same as the boxed version so until it's done and I burn the DVD I wont know if its basic or Pro.
Keep in mind, though. While the download is free in order to use Novell's update service I'm sure you need a valid serial which I'm sure you can only get by paying for the product.
Still, a good way to look and see if it's worth your while. I've checked out 9.1Pro, Novell Linux Desktop (same Kernal but fewer extras than 9.2 Pro), and the 9.2 Pro Live Eval and it certainly impressed me. This will probably be the first Linux that I'll run on a regular basis. Up until now I've always said 'good OS but not ready for prime time'. Not quite sure if it's ready for prime time yet, but it's certainly very usable as a desktop OS now for someone a bit less than a computer guru.
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Is this 9.2 basic or 9.2 Professional?
pro (see here (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/54908) )
btw : i did the ftp installation with the suse 9.1 via apt over usr-local-bin.org - no fee it´s free :-) and running fine and stable.
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This time around they also give a DVD image as well as the FTP install option so if you have a DVD burner/reader you can burn and install from that :-) Also, you can get all your updates free too, no need to register :-) Oh yeah - posted from Suse 9.2 ;-)
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Right, quite a lot of confusion on this thread.
1. This is the full DVD install of SuSE 9.2 Professional with the 3rd party commercial taken software out.
2. It is for x86-32bit and amd64/emt64 64bit processors only. there is a version for PPC but it is older.
3. You do not need a key/serial to use the update service, and it is free at all times.
I have a boxed copy with manuals of 9.1 Pro sat here besides me, and this 9.2 DVD ISO is just as good. Better even.
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spoke before i'd read the whole article. d'oh
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BUGGER! I just paid for this a couple of ing months ago! (proper boxed copy). Ho hum, I guess at least I've got the commercial stuff ... which I probably don't use anyway, lol.
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Holley wrote:
BUGGER! I just paid for this a couple of ing months ago! (proper boxed copy). Ho hum, I guess at least I've got the commercial stuff ... which I probably don't use anyway, lol.
I bought 9.1 Pro 3 weeks before 9.2 came out.
I wasn't a happy bunny, especially as 9.1 didn't like my laptops ACPI implementation. I had to hack it to bit's to get it to work properly.
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mdma: good catch! at work we bought the 9.2 Pro..so I have it installed here @ home :)
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TheMagicM wrote:
mdma: good catch! at work we bought the 9.2 Pro..so I have it installed here @ home :)
I'm using the 64bit version right now on my laptop, and i've got the Broadcom 54g Wifi card working with the 30day trial of driverloader.
Hopefully ndiswrapper will make a 64 bit clean version soon. If not i'll buy driver loader. I must say driverloader has the best installer i've ever seen for a linux driver.
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have you noticed any incompatibilities w/software when running the 64 bit version?
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TheMagicM wrote:
have you noticed any incompatibilities w/software when running the 64 bit version?
No, none at all.
Even VMWare runs. It'll even run 64bit OS's inside a VM, even though VMWare itself is a 32bit application.
Just a few bits of hardware not fully supported. Main one being Radeon 9600. XOrg 2D driver is ok, bt there is no 3D accelerated 64bit driver from ATI as of yet.
Very odd, as ATI have released 64bit Windows drivers and Microsoft have still not released the 64bit version of Windows.
Linux has been 64bit for around 2 years, yet ATI still haven't released a 64bit driver.
It's not like they can argue market share reasons this time is it. Linux has the 64bit market all to itself.
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hey, i burned the iso on a dvd and played with it today.
cool!
i tried to see if i could connect (dsl), but i think it said i was missing some package (didn't bother to make a note of it as i'm still in the "playing" stage).
got to see the new GIMP.
yup, linux just keeps getting better. i can't tell you how long i was entertained just looking at the screen blankers!!! :lol:
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what I've had problems with is installing a second drive.. yep..simple task yet I hosed it. I wasnt paying attention and I set its mount point as default to /usr.. yea..you can imagine what happened next..LOL.. SuSE booted then stopped etc.. I fixed that problem..but no matter where I set its mount point it would never work properly... I had booting problems etc. So I gave up.. I have a 80 gig hd with about 60 gigs free.. I guess I'll buy a 160gig hd and replace this 80.
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Hello,
Where did you try setting it to mount after you fixed the /usr problem? I've added drives to my 9.1 install in the past with no problems, so it should be do-able. You may have done this already, but try creating a new dir, say /hd2, and mounting it there? That should work, then you can fiddle around getting it in the right place :-)
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I think the next time around I tried /mnt/drive1 or something odd that way I knew it didnt exist. After booting I recieved a weird error.. tty0 tty1 hda hdb hdc and so on was dumped on the screen.. its as if it listed all the devices in /dev and would not continue.
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TheMagicM wrote:
I think the next time around I tried /mnt/drive1 or something odd that way I knew it didnt exist. After booting I recieved a weird error.. tty0 tty1 hda hdb hdc and so on was dumped on the screen.. its as if it listed all the devices in /dev and would not continue.
That's the problem. It didn't exist.
you need to mkdir /mnt/drive1 before you mount the drive to it.
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I bought 9.1 Pro 3 weeks before 9.2 came out.
It seems that they delay the downloadable ISO's.
So you can purchase the retailBOX and play *before* sometimes several *weeks* before the downloadable ISO's show up.
That's how it seems to me.
Though I sit here with my 6.2-BOX edition on the shelf next to me, my 7.2 BOX-edition on the shelf next to me. My 9.0 live eval placed back into its jewel case, my 6 CD (burn-copy) 9.2 professional - resting quietly in the nylon flip-case. AND my 9.1 FTP 8cm bootable CD in its jewel case next to my monitor.
All to never be installed on my anymore.
since I need; XineDVD to play LOTR, and streaming media plugins for firefox without having to re-engineer the base-install; I've also grown to like *compile-from-source*
much better than rpm or apt or yast or dpkg.
I have thus firmly landed on arch-wombat.
gave gentoo 3 tries, but dont like wasting 72/12/8 hours on an install just to reach kernel panic
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@cecilia
got to see the new GIMP.
Suse 9.2 comes with 2.0.something, so I went and got 2.2.3 - now almost every filter dialog is resizable, with preview and handy scroll-around widget in the corner, plus (especially on the Windows version) the file dialogs are nicer. It is absolutely stunning for a freebie!
I found the newer Suse RPM at Guru's RPM Site (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/index.php) (had to add it back into the menu manually though with the Menu Editor after installing).
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I always did like SuSE Linux. It always worked better and more reliably for me than RedHat and I like have a full library of Linux software available with a simple installation.