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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« on: August 22, 2003, 04:21:50 AM »
@Olegil

Small difference is, that it wasn't(isn't) clear wether Eyetech actually paid for the
Magig-Packs or not while it is clear that BB paid the OS3.9s.

@Dan

Whats the difference between bundling and "selling together" ?
Tell you what, it is just a fancy way of saying just the same.

It may be that they would have to list both items seperatly on the bill, like:

 Pegasos 2-mobo Euro 299.99
AmigaOS-3.9         Euro      0.1  :-P

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2003, 08:13:26 AM »
@Pixie

Beeeep wrong  :-D

You don't need an Amiga-ROM to run 3.9 on MOS.

I even managed to run 3.9 by accident when I got my Peg  :-o

I just installed the HD from my A4000 to copy some files, but forgot it was setted
to a very high boot-pri. All over sudden I had Amidock and all that stuff
showing up  :-P  :-D
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5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2003, 11:37:00 AM »
@Dave

Or I play it the other way round:

I bought my SW at a shop (real or online doesn't matter), and ONLY those
terms visible at/before purchase form the contract I have with the dealer
or producer of said SW.


Thats how most courts see it in civilized countries.

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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2003, 11:39:34 AM »
and furtherone:

Do you really think someone would just refund you on a allready opened
SW-package without putting up a fight ?

Thats why only what is visible from the outside form a valid contract.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2003, 12:10:01 PM »
@Dave

Don't know about your country, but here there simple are some limlitations
of what clauses can be put into a contract.
Anything that goes beyond it is not valid, but it DOES NOT automaticly invalid the
whole contract !!

Putting clauses in after the purchase (and thats what those EULA-requesters do)
does go beyound it.

Limiting a SW to be used only on ceratin HW can also go beyound it.

But I think the point is rather mood as H&P are the ones (exclusivly) distributing OS3.9
not Ainc, and I haven't seen Mr Haage complain (Iand don't think he ever will).

We can also be sure that AInc will never actually fight H&P over the rather foggie
question who owns what of AOS (as been seen with Amithlon).
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2003, 12:17:12 PM »
Thats why I said it is foggy.

Ands who say that the 3.9s bought by BB aren't actually AmigaOSXL-packages
directly bought at H&P (those don't have the clause in the EULA).
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2003, 07:32:30 PM »
Quote
One thing I forguet though Kronos, was AmigaOS3.9 implicitly need the AmigaOS3.1 roms to run, wether MacOSX don't*! ;-b


MacOSX needs a OF-like basis to run, which can be replaced by MOL.

OS3.9 does need something like Kick3.1 to run and the "boot.img" of MOS is
close enough to do that job. The only thing that doesn't work are the
ROM-updates (duh).

Oh, and I have 1 OS3.9 and 1 Amithlon, and atm I'm not even sure where that single
file I got installed on MOS came from (thats rexxsys.library).

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else