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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« on: May 03, 2003, 06:05:15 PM »
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Alkemyst wrote:

Why dont you OpenSource MOS.


Maybe because they care about THEIR work ?

Maybe they just wouldn't have any use for the duplicate modules
if the owned the Amiga-IP (and with that atleast OS3.1) ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 09:09:52 PM »
Do you REALLY think Genesi could just get an licence from Bill&fleecy ?

/me writes out invitations to reality  ;-)

And even if, do you really think that Genesi would want to comply
with the other requirements, like opening their books to AInc ?

Sofar Genesi has done ALL that could be reasonably demanded
for a port of OS4:

The HW is there.
Lot's of OSes run on it, and some of them even open-source.

They use a well-documented standard for the FirmWare.

They use well known and documented (atleast for Hyperion) chips
on there HW.

The missing bits could be looked up in the kernels of said
open-source OSes.


If Hyperion/AInc think that they can't/don't want to port OS4
to the HW, than thats their choice, and they are the ones to blame
for it. If they think that it wouldn't bring in enough cash for
them to justify the efford, or if they think they need to
"protect" another HW-vendor, than it is again their descision.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2003, 10:02:13 PM »
@amimonkey

I only know those parts that appeared in one of those famous
executive-updates posted on Amiga.com. And the one about the
licence (most have been April 02) did indeed state that
insight into company-papers had to be given to AInc.

Thats enough to shy away everyone except those who allready
were "in bed" with AInc.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2003, 10:02:16 PM »
double holds longer  ;-)
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2003, 12:21:17 PM »
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amimonkey wrote:
.. ..end to this no AOS4 on morphos nonsense?



Well that IS nonsense .....  :-D

Or maybe ....
Do a port of MOL to MOS, and than run OS4 in it ?

Not that that would make any sense, but wouldn't it still be cool ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
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4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2003, 01:54:36 PM »
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catohagen wrote:

Rumours around is that A1 at this point outsells pegasos 3x


And you believe THAT rumour ? Take a good look around, and if
you still think Eyetech has sold (including those just
ordered) more than 500 boards, it would seem that you are
in need of some reality-pills ....

This may change when OS4 finally runs on the A1, but that is still
sofar away that we aren't even allowed to speculate how far
away it is  :-o  :-P

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The people that made what they are using now are part of Genesi


The people making OS3.x and some of the enhancements
of OS3.5 and 3.9 are part of Genesi ? I thought they are
working on OS4 ? (mostly thinking of Amidock, FFS2, roadshow, deficons,++)


and someohow I doubt that Bill was thinking about SW .....
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4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2003, 05:43:12 PM »
@Seehund

You are confusing 2 things here.

The pices Bill mentioned were what he was told back in 01
when bPlan planned to sell MOS without Ambient.

He also said that he hasn't spoken the other Bill eversince.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else