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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« on: May 03, 2003, 11:16:56 AM »
If Genesi owned the classis AmigaOS IP?

One possibility might be to turn everything over to the AROS folks (they have stayed motivated and working independently for years!) or another, just release everything to OpenSource.  :-o

For the moment that would seem the best course as far as we are concerned, but that is PURE SPECULATION at this point as we do not own the IP.  ;-)

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill   :-)

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 06:30:46 PM »
Hi Mahen, thanks for visiting the offices in Paris last week and thanks for the support here.  :-)

Thanks to you too Kronos.  :-)

Hi EntilZha, we hope when a few things have changed we can work with you and your brother.  It has been a long time since we had our discussions in Cologne in December 2001.  ;-)

Hi Seehund, maybe we will ask you to do the port!  Interested?  ;-)

Hi Cato.  :-o

Hi Hooligan, check your email for DemoScene Draft announcement.  :-D

Hi falemagn, it was just an idea.  ;-)

Hi Alkemyst, try to understand that the competitive advantage we have is three things in ONE package: MorphOS, Pegasos, Applications.  The flexiblilty to respond independently and quickly to market opportunity will be our key to success.  We have absolutely nothing against OS4.  That is the ONLY truly valuable technical asset left in the discussion.  Trademarks are another discussion, but we are not really that interested in those either.  We hope you will finally understand that.  :-?

Best regards,

Raquel and Bill   :-)  

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2003, 09:36:51 AM »
Hi, most of these discussions are academic, but as we have mentioned in another thread you can make your own comparison starting...

At Tain l'Hermitage: HERE and here...

At WOASE: HERE and here...

In Aachen: HERE and here...

...and in Sweden (twice) and Italy too.  :-)

But, we did not see "them" HERE at CES 2003 in Las Vegas or HERE at CeBIT 2003 in Hannover.  We did not even see them HERE in Poland or HERE in Spain or even HERE in Finland !!!     :-o   Maybe, we will see them HERE this week -- who knows?!  :-?

Anyway, we are really happy to be coming to AmiWest.  It's a peice of  CAKE for us, because we are planning to have FUN!  And, by the way, if you don't like that then you can try one of THESE and even better one of THESE !!!  But, most of all we hope you come to AmiWest so you can try ONE OF THESE, just like THEY DID  :-)  !!!

Anyway, we are headed THERE, so come join the TEAM, if you see what we mean and just stop by to say "Hi!" to give it a TRY !!!  

Yeehaw!  We are headed WEST!  AmiWest that is!!!  Maybe there you will better understand what we would do...;-)

Signed, the WHOLE GENESI TEAM!!!  :-D

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2003, 11:12:50 AM »
Well Cato that is sort of our job...;-)

We posted this quote from Jack Welsh the old CEO of General Electric yesterday.  He was speaking about Clausewitz:  "Strategy was not a lengthy action plan. It was the evolution of a central idea through continually changing circumstances."

We are just trying to get the central idea across (through continually changing circumstances); that is, there is a future in the Pegasos and MorphOS.  We are on the march! (so to speak  ;-)  )

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill   :-)

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2003, 12:59:23 PM »
Hi Ian, before it might have made since.  Now it does not.  We do not need OS4 or any of the trademarks.  We have our own "brand" now.  We want to promote this and this is our #1 focus.  For your information, the last serious conversation (if you can call it that) we had with Bill McEwen was in June 2001.  Bill wanted $20/unit license fee and a $100,000 up front payment, plus a dongle and we had to do all the work!  We said forget it and the rest is history.  We spoke briefly to Fleecy again face to face in London in April 2002.  At this point we understood the effort to combine the efforts was totally futile.  We decided to eliminate any cross-pollenation whatsoever.  We did.

In the meanwhile, we legally purchased a few hundred copies of OS 3.9 which if we wanted to we could bundle with the Pegasos -- just to put an Amiga label on the package.  Alternatively, we could have made a deal with Cloanto...this would have done the job too.  In the end, we decided against both approaches.

When OS4 is done we can analyse the situation then, but our inclination is that we do not have the time to do this.  Hyperion can do it if they want to.  They will need an installed base of users to sell their product.  The Pegasos "Community" could be a potential market for them.

For us, OS4 is no different than any flavor of Linux, BeOS or BSD.  To tell you the truth, NewOS is the most interesting of all of them.  Anyway, we will support Hyperion when they are ready.  The people that made what they are using now are part of Genesi, so eventually it would not surprise us if everyone is happy and gets along someday...

As to the other questions...the Q-Box is a long term development (years), but that will not stop someone from partitioning their hard drive and running multiple operating systems.  There are options already.  Some JIT works now and the Pegasos will do more things as time goes on.  Any good OS is "alive."  There is never a final product -- just evolution and hopefully improvement.

Hope that answers your question.

Sincerely,

Raquel and Bill

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2003, 04:35:48 PM »
It may be at the end of the day, but we will answer any questions here now or later tomorrow.

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R&B

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2003, 07:11:22 PM »

...actually the last time we spoke to Bill was November 2002.

That ought to tell you something!!!

:-)

OK, now forget it and get on with the rest of your life...

Have a good night,
Raquel and Bill