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Offline cap

Ati Radeon 8500
« on: November 10, 2002, 11:39:29 AM »
Anybody have some advice on which version of
the 8500 to go for in the A1,as in the Standard
64mb asgainst the LE 128mb,also the makes
i.e Hercules or Mercury etc.

If its not too much to ask where they have seen it.

I have done a bit of a search and i've spotted an
LE 128mb at Stak for £81.08, can anybody beat that?
A500+ A530 40mhz Action Replay
A1200 Blizzard 060/233 grex voodoo 3000
A1 G4/1ghz Radeon 9250
 

Offline The_Editor

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2002, 11:43:40 AM »
Thats a good price mate ..Ebuyer is quoting .. £98  before vat.   Is this the right card ?



Super ATI Radeon 8500LE AGP 64MB DDR Dual Display DVI+TV Out - Retail Box
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Offline Orgin

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2002, 11:54:12 AM »
Some benchmarks at tomshardware.com:

http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020409/geforce4ti4200-04.html

Radeon 7500, 8500 and 8500LE compared to GeForce 3 Ti, Geforce 4 MX and Geforce 4.

/Björn
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Offline jd997uk

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2002, 12:07:33 PM »
@cap

Apparently, the ATI OEM stuff is all the same, so if the A1 supports the 8500, any of the builds will work.

-john
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Offline Elektro

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2002, 12:25:20 PM »
Ati 8500le is a very good card, it uses 3.3ns ram so it can easily go up to 300MHz.
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Offline Herewegoagain

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2002, 01:17:27 PM »
Any one of them should blow the previously available cards for Amiga (ie Voodoo) out of the water.  But if you can, I would get the 8500LE with 128MB of Ram.
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Offline amigamad

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2002, 01:33:23 PM »
I paid 120 pound for hercules radeon 8500 le 128mb that was from the over clocking store .That was about 3 months ago
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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Offline Cojo

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2002, 10:01:04 PM »
hmm,
call me crazy or call it overkill..
but i whould get a radeon 9700 ;)
nowadays, nothing is as old as yesterdays hardware....
and the 8500 is yesterdays hw ;)
 

  • Guest
Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2002, 12:28:01 PM »
I'm a little scared of the video card situation on the amigaone.

As far as I know, the Aone will be using the same kind of drivers that linux uses.

Linux support a lot of cards, but only generally.
They support the 2D modes and such, but not true 3D gaming and such.

I think a lot of money may be wasted on getting all these high priced cards, only to find out that 3D and acceleration is not supported.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
And I hope I am.
 

Offline newbee

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2002, 12:44:23 PM »
@mounatinmyst

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They support the 2D modes and such, but not true 3D gaming and such.
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I think a lot of money may be wasted on getting all these high priced cards, only to find out that 3D and acceleration is not supported.


A hell of a lot of effort is going into the 2d and 3d engines (both for AmigaOS and DE). So AmigaOS 4 will have some very impressive 2d and 3d abilites.

However, you are also correct in that on a subset of all available cards will have complete drivers written (at least on this first pass!!!).

I would not invest in a "bleeding edge" 3d card at the moment as it is unlikely to be initially (fully) supported, although if it is compatibel with an "old" version you may get some functionality.

The Radeon 8500 has been around for some time now and it is "supported" so I think it is a good compramise between "new and better" and "supported".

I hope that helps your decision process.

Regards
Darren


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Offline poweramiga2002

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2002, 01:14:59 PM »
i have purchased the gigabyte ati radeon 9000 is this ok for use in my amigaone
 

Offline newbee

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2002, 01:37:50 PM »
@poweramiga2002

The Radeon 9000 should work as it is "backwards compatible" with the Radeon 7500 (This is not a money back garantee however).

The drivers are "optimised" for the 7500 so even the 8500 will be missing some "whistles and bells" on the first pass (but should still give a speed boost over the 7500).

Since you have already purchased the 9000 card, give it a go (nothing to lose). however I would not recommend purchasing >8500 for anyone who has not yet got a video card.

Regards
Darren
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Offline Wilse

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2002, 03:00:12 PM »
This may seem like a stupid question but is an 8500 always a better option than a 7500?

Offline Elektro

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2002, 03:06:36 PM »
8500 is better than 7500 and 9000.
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Offline Joshua

Re: Ati Radeon 8500
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2002, 03:29:19 PM »
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The Radeon 9000 should work as it is "backwards compatible" with the Radeon 7500 (This is not a money back garantee however).

The drivers are "optimised" for the 7500 so even the 8500 will be missing some "whistles and bells" on the first pass (but should still give a speed boost over the 7500).



Where are you getting your information from?  We haven't released anything to this effect.  The "first pass" drivers are "optimized" (if you can call it that) for compatibility -- we're attempting to make it work with as many Radoen cards as possible (we'll release a list of tested cards a bit closer to the OS4 shipment).  The "bells and whistles" specific to each Radeon chip will probably come later in updated drivers.
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